A story that illustrates why I will never orange pill anyone ever again.
2015- Attempt to orange pill friend multiple times. No dice. Totally uninterested.
2019- He asks me if now is a good time to get into bitcoin. “It’s always a good time”. I set him up with a HW wallet and tell him DCA and chill.
2019- Friend calls me a few months later, he wants to put the down payment money for his house into bitcoin, but he’s nervous. I say no worries I will backstop your investment. What’re friends for?! I want you to succeed. He now has a no risk investment. Financed by me.
2020: Friend is doing well. Has been stacking hard and has 2 coins. A great stack for his income.
2021: He starts watching cringey YouTube videos about shitcoin trading. Gets into a private telegram, trades his 2 bitcoin into 4 and then gets rug pulled and loses everything.
2021: He’s near suicidal, very dark times. He doesn’t tell me anything because he knows I warned him about trading and thinks I’ll be disappointed in him. Finally he tells me. I help him get a personal loan so he can take advantage of the remainder of the bull run. He sells at 55k and manages to break even. He’s not up but he’s got his house money back.
2023: We’re out drinking with some other friends from high school. He expresses some jealousy towards me in a semi awkward fashion. “Every time I see this dude (me) I think about bitcoin.”
2024: I meet up with him so the kids can play at the park. Vibe is off. Lots of insecurity and tension. They’re going on a trip to San Diego and I ask if they might go to the zoo while there. “I can’t afford that. That’s for rich people like you”. Odd interaction, but I shake it off.
2024: A few weeks later he gets drunk and hits on my wife via text messages. She shows me immediately and I confront him. He’s like “sorry bro I was drunk I didn’t mean it”. I tell him off and make clear this is the last time we will ever speak.
No good deed goes unpunished. I could not have been nicer to this dude and more helpful along the way and he is fully consumed by envy towards me.
Unfortunate.
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Damn, sorry to hear that bro 🙏🏻
Can’t afford the zoo? lol WTF ok…
Right? Like how expensive can it be lol 😂
That sucks, sorry.
Thanks for sharing, HOLD. It’s unfortunate, bitcoiner’s wealth will be resented by the vast majority of the population in the future. Likely even worse than the wealth class of today. Damned if you do (help), damned if you don’t (help).
ya hate to see it
He missed the “stay humble” part.
He missed the never hit on a man's wife part.
I haven't had this experience since I'm only class of 2021, but given my trajectory, I'm confident I will. Hopefully I can use your story to avoid bullshit like this. Tragic.
I actually offered a friend a free hardware wallet by mail, help setting it up on a call, AND free #Bitcoin sent to his address after setup.
All he had to do was set it up and stamp his seed on steel, which I also offered to advise on.
Crickets. That was my queue to fuck off. I wonder if it would have somehow just turned into your story.
Few will make it and the many who don't will be envious (including the ones we tried to drag to the top with us).
Damn, that guy is a fucking loser.
Sorry man. How I long to make people understand knowing they prob never will. But some do, don't let the bad stories prevent you from seeing the good ones. We can't really orange pill people anyway, just give out free samples, the rest is up to them.
i feel this man. orange pilling as a concept is pretty cringe/ineffective imo.
some close friends I worked hard to help with this stuff years ago also blew it similarly many times over or laughed me off, and always crawl out of the woodwork when the price pumps or weirdly approach my family.
strategy now is to basically never talk about it irl unless someone close asks for help in good faith and with genuine curiosity. bar to get in irl inner circle only grows with the risks… had 6 figures stolen from me by who I thought was my best friend this past cycle.
finding the tradeoffs for relative success a bit weird. but as an introverted person I think btc helped me focus on bettering myself on this solo expedition. in the end people need to edify themselves
Well said. That’s why it’s easier to find camaraderie inside of bitcoin. We’re really the only people on the planet who know what the other is going through.
HODLing is so hard
I helped someone make a 250% return with bitcoin & they couldn’t even bring themselves to thank me initially
But you want to help others, so how will you hold back from trying to help the uneducated?
do my best thru my work. in person if a close friend is curious enough to ask questions and do a little of their own research I take them out to lunch.
We can't wake the sleeping sheep. We can only search for our fellow lions.
People will become the one (sheep or lion) that they truly want to be. Something I need to learn is that there's nothing I can do to train a sheep to become a lion. Either they'll want it badly enough to be a lion without my help, or they'll always be comfortable with simply being a sheep.
That has been and will likely continue to be a very difficult lesson for me to learn. 😔
A story that illustrates why I will never orange pill anyone ever again.
2015- Attempt to orange pill friend multiple times. No dice. Totally uninterested.
2019- He asks me if now is a good time to get into bitcoin. “It’s always a good time”. I set him up with a HW wallet and tell him DCA and chill.
2019- Friend calls me a few months later, he wants to put the down payment money for his house into bitcoin, but he’s nervous. I say no worries I will backstop your investment. What’re friends for?! I want you to succeed. He now has a no risk investment. Financed by me.
2020: Friend is doing well. Has been stacking hard and has 2 coins. A great stack for his income.
2021: He starts watching cringey YouTube videos about shitcoin trading. Gets into a private telegram, trades his 2 bitcoin into 4 and then gets rug pulled and loses everything.
2021: He’s near suicidal, very dark times. He doesn’t tell me anything because he knows I warned him about trading and thinks I’ll be disappointed in him. Finally he tells me. I help him get a personal loan so he can take advantage of the remainder of the bull run. He sells at 55k and manages to break even. He’s not up but he’s got his house money back.
2023: We’re out drinking with some other friends from high school. He expresses some jealousy towards me in a semi awkward fashion. “Every time I see this dude (me) I think about bitcoin.”
2024: I meet up with him so the kids can play at the park. Vibe is off. Lots of insecurity and tension. They’re going on a trip to San Diego and I ask if they might go to the zoo while there. “I can’t afford that. That’s for rich people like you”. Odd interaction, but I shake it off.
2024: A few weeks later he gets drunk and hits on my wife via text messages. She shows me immediately and I confront him. He’s like “sorry bro I was drunk I didn’t mean it”. I tell him off and make clear this is the last time we will ever speak.
No good deed goes unpunished. I could not have been nicer to this dude and more helpful along the way and he is fully consumed by envy towards me.
Unfortunate.
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"Gratitude is not only the greatest of virtues, but the parent of all the others."
- Marcus Tullius Cicero
Sorry to hear that. Have a similar story but the person I told listened. May not have continued stacking but got it off BlockFi and Coinbase.
Maybe it depends on the person, relationship, and personal development?
Well said. @HODL has turned a lot of us into lions here. Keep it up bro. 🤙🏼 

Makes me wonder if he was taking a trip he could barely afford, just to show off about being well travelled.
Not too much success in purple pilling friends either?
Strange how this is so hard with people we know and you get new friends from across the globe constantly.
Some people are better at suffering moods because they feel they are alive when they are in stress. When they decide to quit addiction to stress, they will immediately understand bitcoin and nostr. It is all inside them.
Damn, sorry you experienced this :(
You buy and wait. To this day I struggle to understand how so few people can actually do this and fewer still even attempt it at all. Bitcoiners are made different, it is undeniable.
A story that illustrates why I will never orange pill anyone ever again.
2015- Attempt to orange pill friend multiple times. No dice. Totally uninterested.
2019- He asks me if now is a good time to get into bitcoin. “It’s always a good time”. I set him up with a HW wallet and tell him DCA and chill.
2019- Friend calls me a few months later, he wants to put the down payment money for his house into bitcoin, but he’s nervous. I say no worries I will backstop your investment. What’re friends for?! I want you to succeed. He now has a no risk investment. Financed by me.
2020: Friend is doing well. Has been stacking hard and has 2 coins. A great stack for his income.
2021: He starts watching cringey YouTube videos about shitcoin trading. Gets into a private telegram, trades his 2 bitcoin into 4 and then gets rug pulled and loses everything.
2021: He’s near suicidal, very dark times. He doesn’t tell me anything because he knows I warned him about trading and thinks I’ll be disappointed in him. Finally he tells me. I help him get a personal loan so he can take advantage of the remainder of the bull run. He sells at 55k and manages to break even. He’s not up but he’s got his house money back.
2023: We’re out drinking with some other friends from high school. He expresses some jealousy towards me in a semi awkward fashion. “Every time I see this dude (me) I think about bitcoin.”
2024: I meet up with him so the kids can play at the park. Vibe is off. Lots of insecurity and tension. They’re going on a trip to San Diego and I ask if they might go to the zoo while there. “I can’t afford that. That’s for rich people like you”. Odd interaction, but I shake it off.
2024: A few weeks later he gets drunk and hits on my wife via text messages. She shows me immediately and I confront him. He’s like “sorry bro I was drunk I didn’t mean it”. I tell him off and make clear this is the last time we will ever speak.
No good deed goes unpunished. I could not have been nicer to this dude and more helpful along the way and he is fully consumed by envy towards me.
Unfortunate.
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Thanks, but my point was that if you're a lion, it's only because you wanted to become one badly enough that when sacrifices were required of you in order to rise up as a lion, you didn't back down.
@HODL called you to rise up and be the lion you always wanted to be, anyway. When we try to train those who, deep down, prefer to be sheep, and convince them to live like lions, it always ends like the story HODL shared, if not worse.
We should tell others about Bitcoin and other good things, but I'm realizing we should never try to convince them when they don't want to be convinced. We'll either fail spectacularly, or succeed in setting them up to fail spectacularly.
The zoo is for rich people? Lol
dang, very sorry to hear that. man got lost in the sauce
Unfortunately, there's gonna be a lot of that happening. People will begin to envy us, more and more, even though they never listened to us.
Stay safe out there, guys 💪🏻
I just don't talk to people about it at all, with one exception being a couple that I know. I've talked to them at various times over the last year (gave them a book, earmarked time for them in case they had questions, etc) and every time it's been a waste of time. I stopped and hadn't said anything in months. A couple weeks ago one of them asked me if I was into Ethereum. I wanted to hurl my phone through a wall. The first time they ever broached the subject of crypto they mentioned Ethereum.
I just said no and changed the subject. The next day I sent them a text giving context for why not and they wanted to know which bitcoin they should convert their Ethereum to in their Coinbase account.
I'm tempted to just tell them that I'm getting out but that's me just thinking about my own "opsec" for the future. Maybe I should also tell them flat out if they're not willing or able to put the time and effort into understanding what it is, how to use/store it, and why we need it then maybe they shouldn't be messing with it in the first place.
Something like this happened to me several times.
I always end up saying: everybody has what he deserves and it is unavoidable that when somebody who is not ready gets Bitcoin, he will end up losing it in an spectacular way.
Real friends share their wife.
People don't like believing truths you have found first. Makes them feel you might be better than them.


I orange pilled my mom in 2020, and explicitly told her to DCA and stay calm. Surprise... she didn't 😱
She put half her savings in immediately, doubled it in about 10 weeks, sold at $55k and bought herself a nice camper van, which has been used *a lot* since. Today, she still hodls 1 Bitcoin, "just in case I need it".
I'm still not sure if it was pure life experience or also included a bit of luck, but buying yourself quality time with Bitcoin certainly makes a lot of sense 😁
A story that illustrates why I will never orange pill anyone ever again.
2015- Attempt to orange pill friend multiple times. No dice. Totally uninterested.
2019- He asks me if now is a good time to get into bitcoin. “It’s always a good time”. I set him up with a HW wallet and tell him DCA and chill.
2019- Friend calls me a few months later, he wants to put the down payment money for his house into bitcoin, but he’s nervous. I say no worries I will backstop your investment. What’re friends for?! I want you to succeed. He now has a no risk investment. Financed by me.
2020: Friend is doing well. Has been stacking hard and has 2 coins. A great stack for his income.
2021: He starts watching cringey YouTube videos about shitcoin trading. Gets into a private telegram, trades his 2 bitcoin into 4 and then gets rug pulled and loses everything.
2021: He’s near suicidal, very dark times. He doesn’t tell me anything because he knows I warned him about trading and thinks I’ll be disappointed in him. Finally he tells me. I help him get a personal loan so he can take advantage of the remainder of the bull run. He sells at 55k and manages to break even. He’s not up but he’s got his house money back.
2023: We’re out drinking with some other friends from high school. He expresses some jealousy towards me in a semi awkward fashion. “Every time I see this dude (me) I think about bitcoin.”
2024: I meet up with him so the kids can play at the park. Vibe is off. Lots of insecurity and tension. They’re going on a trip to San Diego and I ask if they might go to the zoo while there. “I can’t afford that. That’s for rich people like you”. Odd interaction, but I shake it off.
2024: A few weeks later he gets drunk and hits on my wife via text messages. She shows me immediately and I confront him. He’s like “sorry bro I was drunk I didn’t mean it”. I tell him off and make clear this is the last time we will ever speak.
No good deed goes unpunished. I could not have been nicer to this dude and more helpful along the way and he is fully consumed by envy towards me.
Unfortunate.
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This may be more common than you think.
A friend who is not willing to put in the work, will not be helped by you putting in the work for him.
It will just result in exposing a lame person who assumes he's entitled to the good things in life.
This friend was never a friend with mutual moral values, so it's doubtful he was even truely your friend.
Its a good relationship test, but a hard pill to swallow when you meet people like this.
Crazy story, thanks for sharing it with us.
Oof that sucks..
most of the evil actions in the world has a premise of jealiousy, never underestimate jealiousies power to do evil
Sad story
“I was always envious of zoo goers before I got into Bitcoin, now I go to zoo’s with pride.”
And yet there is still the desire to awaken those around you. It’s human nature to help those who you care about. Like Noah before the flood. It’s up to them after you give them a heads up.✌️
This is the story of not your keys not your coins, and don't shitcoin rolled into one. Your former friend had deeper issues than just losing the btc.
just wondering how hard max keiser orange pilled most his friends since btc 1 usd...
#bitcoin #orangepill
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Sorry to hear that Hodl. Had to be really hard.
thanks for sharing.
happy Holi dear
You can only orange pill yourself. Money boosts the personality traits you already have: Saving in Bitcoin may bring "outer freedom" when you follow someone else's "investment advice", but inner freedom and peace is something each and everyone has to achieve in their own time and proof-of-work. When there's disconnect between the two freedoms for too long chances are you'll gamble or spend it all.
Everyone needs to provide their own proof of work
Guy has loser syndrome. Sad to see some people in life just take L after L no matter how much you try to help them. 10/10 for bro help attempt but ultimately best to sever the relationship due to chronic loser syndrome.
Wow, sorry to hear HODL. That’s really unfortunate. Appreciate you sharing the story. 🤙
envy sucks. thanks for sharing dude.
In the end It was a good lesson about overextending loyalty to the wrong people.
Good riddance.
Yeah he’s a mess.
You don’t have a friend there my man. You have an acquaintance that can & should be easily dropped.
I can count real friends on one hand with a finger cut off.
lol apparently
Sorry brother. Envy runs the world and is why I nym.
This is an old friendship. We were really good friends 15-20 years ago and it’s been drifting ever since. Honestly it was easy to drop him once he crossed the line. I didn’t lose any sleep over it.
Friend is a word that gets used way too much & incorrectly.
Even if it’s an old relationship.
lol it is a very nice zoo
Tangential story - i have an old friend that got into bitcoin at the same time as me in 2013. Has a good fiat job that affords him a very comfortable life. Bought maybe a few coins early on. Just bought a new house and decided he was going to pay it off in full with his.... bitcoin. Same guy that still holds litecoin because of diversification.
When i heard it my mind nearly melted. You turned down the fiat financed at ~7% to take 100% of the upside off from bitcoin. Very likely those coins he burned to avoid the 7% rate right now will be worth 100x at the loan maturity.
Of course this guy is an MBA but he has lost the ability to think.
Many such cases
Thank you for sharing 🙏🫂
“Why do we fall sir? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up. “ -Alfred quote to support
Or send them my way to orange peel and they can envy me 😬🤣
Reasons for the expressions “money corrupts” and “blinded by jealousy”. This is why “stay humble” is so correct. He should be thankful for your help and to take responsibility for his own actions. The line has definitely been crossed now.
Sorry to hear that. Well you tried so fuck it 🤙
👍🤙🤙🤙
Thanks for sharing such a personal story. Shame that he couldn’t take responsibility for his actions and let his envy ruin a relationship with someone who has tried to help him. Hitting on someone’s wife though…not in high school anymore, that’s crazy.
Sad story in all vectors.
Exactly. Hitting on my wife is a direct attack on my family/wealth. Cannot be tolerated. I feel the same way when women hit on me. Like nope sorry, I’m not giving up half my wealth and the respect of my children to fuck some random ho.
Envy is toxic. He made terrible decisions, probably in an attempt to catch up and surpass you.
Managing envy is a big part of being successful. For me, reading Rene Girard has helped a lot.
Agreed. I read girard as well and now all I see is memetic desire everywhere I look both in myself and in others.
Yop, same here!
Is this a book you’d recommend? It seems like he has a fairly extensive catalogue.


Goodreads
I See Satan Fall Like Lightning
Rene Girard holds up the gospels as a mirror to reflect…
People are crazy
The people who claim to be the most selfless are the most selfish
That’s a great one, also things hidden since the foundation of the world. Also wanting by Luke Burgis if you want an easy read.
I suspect there are lots of similar stories out there HODL. I also stopped encouraging people to get into it. If they come to me I will point them towards resources and provide a few words of caution...that's it.
Thanks 🫡 can’t wait to dive in
I've been nagging buddies since 2015
some bought the peak in 2020, sold at bottom
somehow that's my fault

Man, that’s a tough timeline to read through.
I don’t think you could’ve done anything more to help this guy out or try to set him up for success.
The way it all ended kind of sheds light on the quality of individual he is though.
Internal chaos usually is reflected by external chaos. If your internal life is out of control, your outward life typically depicts that as well.
Hopefully he’ll start to see things more clearly and put some work into growing and changing towards a higher version of himself soon.
Sad. But take comfort in knowing, because the world hears so many of your public podcasts, you are literally orange pilling people every day.
To be honest someone prepared to hit on your wife/girlfriend was always as arse
Thanks, not uncommon unfortunately, I can relate. In this regard orange-pilling is similar to introducing someone to the spiritual journey.
In my experience, once ready, your message will spark curiosity without big resistances and they'll continue by themselves and only get back to you for follow-up once in a while with a gleam in their eyes. My resolution is to not push anymore. As soon as there is friction, I will back off and trust life that things will unfold the way they are supposed to. Maybe that will keep you away from such uncomfortable hostilities early enough. The amount of fear, insecurity, greed, jealousy engrained in society is not to be underestimated. Orange-pilling, as any consciousness expansion, is a delicate and revealing affair.
Yeah, that's what Satoshi said, too, didn't he?!
Sounds like your former friend is a shitbag. I don’t think BTC had anything to do with it
I am sorry to hear that story of yours.
I know you know that already, but I will tell you anyways:
It’s not your fault.
lol thanks bro
Maybe I should be grateful I was never able to orange pill any of my friends 😅
That's it! Let friends know that you are there to help, but never try to "orange pill" someone. If they don't come by themselves, it's just a waste of time.
This was not a friend.
This is why I only attempt to paint my transactions orange.
For the past year my cheese guy stacks my purchases in 100% BTC.
He even moved all his PayPal monies to strike & now wants to self custody.
Wow, this was all I needed to read. So sorry to hear. I will now stay silent and stack sats.
Consider yourself lucky he did not rob you, also think about your security more since the word is out and the more price goes up the sweeter target you are.
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My new account, with scriptures rewritten for Bitcoin:
@btcscriptures
Thanks mate, absolutely! You offer the pill caringly, they gotta take it themselves.
Bitcoin is an IQ test. I also stopped orange pilling.
Bitcoin is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to the division of soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12, paraphrased.
You can not change human nature, we all lost friends along the way or subjected to malicious. We are alive, even #Bitcoin
You are a saint, dude. And, yeah, this is very unfortunate. Not only for him but for you as well.
I am so sorry to hear this but I'm VERY glad that you shared the story. Maybe it'll help someone that needs to hear it before they too fall down the wrong rabbit hole.
Not to be that guy that whips out the Bible, but this parallels the Cain/Abel or Jacob/Essau dynamic... failure to make the proper sacrifices in life is the road to bitterness and envy.
I wonder if you had not backstopped the investment, he would not have invested so readily; he may have waited, learned more, and eventually patiently HODLed and might even still be here today.
I'm must be the worst Bitcoiner ever, never orange pilled anyone and not interested. Money is very delicated and I live in a 3rd world country and not interested on having my Bitcoin stolen.
The true character of a man is always shown clearest during times of adversity.
The people I’ve attempted to orange pill have been nothing but trouble. These days I DCA, HODL and STFU about Bitcoin. Unless I’m posting on Nostr that is… 😀
I was inspired by the OP's post to create a new account for retelling bible verses in a bitcoiny way:
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IMO don’t ever regret prior deeds done with a full heart and a clear helpful intent 🤝
Those choices and behaviour are on him, not on you, and that behaviour from him is just avoidance of him taking responsibility for his actions - not excusing it in any way
Don’t let this (shitty) episode sully the help and counsel you’ve given to many many people (more than 6.15 amiright!!) that now have them with a solid stack and life changing trajectory
🧡
10 years, and never empowered himself to understand. What a shame.
I just make sure people know I will always be there to guide and help, and make sure they stay aware of Bitcoin from time to time.
Selfishly, I now only encourage my elderly father to stack Bitcoin.
Hitting on the wife via text. Easy smash delete button out of your life. Some people only know how to sink and want other to sink with them. You did your best. I had couple of those people from childhood I had to cut loose as well. Hopefully he gets his shit together one day..........
Even w ur episode w bitcoin, that friend is still among those bad people.
Bad people do bad things, good people do good things.
Bad people produce bad things, good people produce good things. All u can do is to move forward and learn.
youtube.com/watch?v=M1Yf2BA4sO0&t=21 <=== this one is a good "jack" dont mix up w the other jack.
Not a bad choice. There's freedom in being debt free. I'll bet he sleeps fine.
That's scary. Imagine when Bitcoin is at $500k. This guy will definitely come looking for you. We all need to start thinking more adversarily and that means no more orange pilling, or at least being very selective about it.
Weirdge reason to not want to promote sound money. This story sounds like it's less about Bitcoin and more to do with mental health.
I really wish some people frossing path with me oranged pilled me in 2014-15/when they were stacking sats. instead here I am fiat poor trying to learn how to get off exchanges and p2p btc at 65k before the halving, feeling fomo but hopeful for my grandkids one day. lol 😅 Something similar haooener to methoughz I didn't hit on anyone's wife. a client gifted me 2.5 ETH as a thank you for coaching him through getting his shit together and acting on his goals like buying a miner. he said he made a good 7 fig chunk directly because of me and our sessions. that turned into a good chunk back in 2020 but unfortunetly I made a stupid move following the guidance of a guy I had a crush on. not the first time I've ignored my intuition when I've been deluded my future husband has arrived into my field. I invested in a stupid nft metaverse stupid ugh just talking about it makes me mad, and got to get rugged pulled. so here. wish I'd been orange pilled sooner. and my ETH had been turned into btc instead of rugged pulled.
Lmao what?
Is this the new way of gold digging in the bitcoin community?
GM ☕
Avoid salty losers in your life at all costs.
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Some boys never become a man, even if they pass 30.
What?
Adding some perspective:
2 bitcoins = 200 Million sats!
🤯🤯🤯
Yikes super annoyed by my new keyboard on grapheneos. It does things and keeps on messing my writing. Sorry for the mispells.
Clarify your words and meaning please?
I was reading “Wanting” by Luke Burgis last night, recommended by @DrBitcoinMD . The passage in the clip below reminded me of your “friend”. Like he had some form of mimesis/ mimetic desire towards you, and his dick move with your missus was all wrapped up in this.


Yep. Memetic desire is everywhere.
fr fr
Meanwhile at the zoo… 

Holy shiit 🤦♂️
I’m ngl I’m seeing some of what you’re saying with the insecurity and tension, even some animosity from a close fren that I half way orange pilled n has been getting burned with shitcoins n blames it on me for not getting into shitcoins as well to help him, I had a conversation with myself the other day n told myself I’d never try to orange pill any of my friends anymore, if they see my actions n want to follow okay cool, but never going out of my way. I’d be better off orange pilling complete strangers that will more likely than not follow the sound advice.
Things I always tell a nocoiner who’s thinking about aping into btc bc NgU: yes i do recommend it as a long term investment, but you have to ask yourself if it drops after you buy, are you mentally prepared to ride the price all the way down to zero without “cutting your losses” and selling. If not, I say you shouldn’t buy, bc the odds are too high you’ll sell at the bottom and get burned. And I’ll say that the price is the least interesting thing about btc, it’s about freedom technology. And I’ll leave it at that if they don’t bite.
It’s the driving force of most everything we do as humans.
Better buy that mofo some Tictacs so you hear him coming.
the story you posted on trying to help friend made me understand way better where you're coming from in the recent years. sorry it went like that and thanks for sharing it
A story that illustrates why I will never orange pill anyone ever again.
2015- Attempt to orange pill friend multiple times. No dice. Totally uninterested.
2019- He asks me if now is a good time to get into bitcoin. “It’s always a good time”. I set him up with a HW wallet and tell him DCA and chill.
2019- Friend calls me a few months later, he wants to put the down payment money for his house into bitcoin, but he’s nervous. I say no worries I will backstop your investment. What’re friends for?! I want you to succeed. He now has a no risk investment. Financed by me.
2020: Friend is doing well. Has been stacking hard and has 2 coins. A great stack for his income.
2021: He starts watching cringey YouTube videos about shitcoin trading. Gets into a private telegram, trades his 2 bitcoin into 4 and then gets rug pulled and loses everything.
2021: He’s near suicidal, very dark times. He doesn’t tell me anything because he knows I warned him about trading and thinks I’ll be disappointed in him. Finally he tells me. I help him get a personal loan so he can take advantage of the remainder of the bull run. He sells at 55k and manages to break even. He’s not up but he’s got his house money back.
2023: We’re out drinking with some other friends from high school. He expresses some jealousy towards me in a semi awkward fashion. “Every time I see this dude (me) I think about bitcoin.”
2024: I meet up with him so the kids can play at the park. Vibe is off. Lots of insecurity and tension. They’re going on a trip to San Diego and I ask if they might go to the zoo while there. “I can’t afford that. That’s for rich people like you”. Odd interaction, but I shake it off.
2024: A few weeks later he gets drunk and hits on my wife via text messages. She shows me immediately and I confront him. He’s like “sorry bro I was drunk I didn’t mean it”. I tell him off and make clear this is the last time we will ever speak.
No good deed goes unpunished. I could not have been nicer to this dude and more helpful along the way and he is fully consumed by envy towards me.
Unfortunate.
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