Nostr is still very broken and lots of the various parts didn't live up to its potential... yet. But that doesn't mean that it has failed. It means that there's still work to be done, nothing more.
Can it be frustrating at times? Sure. Could things be better? Undoubtedly. Is it a shame that many promising projects are only half finished and/or abandoned? Of course.
Nostrโs promise, in part, is that it truly is for the people, by the people. And people are messy. And what nostr is trying to model is messy too. But it's beautiful, and alive, and promising, and WAY better than it used to be. Warts and all.
I love this place more and more each day, and I have no intention of leaving. And with the stuff that's on the horizon this little corner of the (new and improved) internet is bound to get better still.
It's amazing that it exists and that stuff mostly works, imperfect as it may be. Makes me grateful. Thank you all ๐๐งก
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Ride or die
Freedom
Thank you for everything you've done for nostr. I love it here. ๐๐
for me it was the spirit of the users that captivated me so much here and made me say goodbye to twitter โบ๏ธ
Thank you all, and thank you buddy ๐
What is your comparison in your mind, to what you want Nostr to look like
We shall keep building and bridging the gap
Ya'll are sleeping, we're building over here.
View quoted note โGRATEFUL FOR THE MESS & YOU ๐ค
Gradually then suddenly ๐ซก
Beautiful words ๐๐จ๐งก I agree, Nostr is alive, imperfect, but full of possibilities.
Maybe right now is the perfect time for those who stay to contribute, even in small ways: better documenting what works, creating simple guides for newcomers, giving constructive feedback to developers.
Every step, even a tiny one, can make the experience more accessible and motivate others to stay and build together.
I like Nostr. Makes me realise how vulnerable I am to scammer bullshit. So it helps me sharpen my focus, and remind myself how dumb I can be. It's the bollocks
How do I make my feed less junky spammy etc?
Of the many aspects that are at play here, on of them is that developments are scattered. So many different apps, developments in relays, new event kinds/use cases. Its hard to keep track of as someone dedicated to the effort, let alone the rest of the user base. No single organization, with a roadmap, clear communciation channels etc.
Point being, things are improving but they are probably off your radar for a while if you don't actively seek then out when they don't directly occur in the place you happen to already be at.
Won't abandon my project because:
1. I REALLY hate censorship
2. I LOVE freedom
3. A lot of people support it now and don't want to let them down
4. Economic reason: I spent a lot of money on it x3
Use paid relays, or wot relays exclusively.
It's a feature but it's also a bug.
The human soul shares this description.
Compare where we are now to a year ago. Even two years ago. The progress is there.
Progress takes time - itโs not something to rush. Trust the process.
Itโs really all about finding meaning within the pursuit itself. Thatโs what sustains you and carries you through challenges.
#Yestr
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On NOSTR I can follow accounts like American Hodl without them getting banned.
I got banned from many 'conservative' telegram channels for just posting against some of their narrative.
I can be muted into the void on NOSTR but I can't get banned.
That is good enough for me.
I am not leaving
The legacy stuff is broken too. They just do a better job of hiding it. Like a broken crutch that's been glued back together and looks fine until you need to put weight on it.
View quoted note โThis is absolutely true. I would take imperfect Nostr any day than anything that Zuck or Altman have in store for us. Building a "new internet" was never going to be easy, but it's totally worth it.
#grownostr ๐ค
we are so early
Thank you Gigi. Iโm only a little user and like it but every dev who make this real to take I will thank a lot for the POW โจ๐ซถ
Lest we forget, Twitter was just like this in 2008-2009. We forgave it then, stayed on and since have migrated with the #Nostr winds, giving it the same love, the same grace โจ
Beautifully said ๐งก I feel the same, imperfect, messy, but alive and full of potential. Grateful to be part of it too ๐
Love the optimism about Nostr's future! ๐งก
You're spot on about those "half finished and/or abandoned" projects. But I think the biggest factor isn't just human messinessโit's the lack of sustainable business models for devs and creators.
Most devs can't work for free indefinitely. Without clear paths to monetization (zaps, subscriptions, grants, etc.), even passionate builders eventually need projects that pay the bills. Economic reality, not character flaws.
The "for the people, by the people" ethos is beautiful, but if we want Nostr to truly thrive long-term, we need to solve the sustainability puzzle: How do talented developers building the tools we love actually make a living doing it? It can't all be reliant on the largess of
@jack or
@jack mallers
Some are experimenting with zaps and premium features, which is encouraging. But until we crack this systematically, we'll keep seeing promising starts โ gradual abandonment.
The technical foundation is solid and improving. Now we need the economic foundation to match it.
#nostr #sustainability #development #grownostr
Excellent words. #nostr does not work correctly in some cases as we would like. But it is already much better than other human communication options that have been with us for years. It is more human, more real, that's why it attracts many and also scares away others. ๐
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Same here! ๐ Nostr is the wild, untamed frontier of the internet, messy, alive, and full of endless possibilities ๐ฅ
Yes, well put. I'd love to see a deep financial analysis of the Nostr ecosystem, all the grant funds going in, and the investments, the estimated combined earnings of developers, revenue estimates for the major players in each area like Alby, Primal, Nostr.wine and, so on. It's hard to picture just where Nostr is financially right now and how big the gaps are that need to be filled. (Big of course, but just how big?)
On the grant and investment finding side I'd not be surprised if upwards of $2m was flowing in each month, but that's just finger in the air.
Iโm very happy to be here on Nostr! Today marks 4 weeks of posting violin and music content every day! ๐
Wot?
When it comes to freedom tools, Iโm all in regardless
PV ๐ธ
Iris default relays are now just a single connection for me, eithout ability to post (typing from amethyst, android)
From nostr.how, first result on google, trying to find relays.
5 min on other platforms of toxic sludge make me appreciate Nostr even more
It is cool, I like it. I think it has potential. Normal people will not use until it is simpler.
What I do like:
-Peer to peer collaboration
-Users providing goods & services
-Value for value
Some good content if you can filter through the dick yanking & virtue token mining.
Maybe Knotsies can work on some filtering for everyone.
#build
Indeed.
absolutely! ๐ซก
Itโs like nature
The best thing to happen on the internet in a generation.
NOSTR is unbridled, unfiltered and untamed.
We can't claim NOSTR as domesticated , docile and deadbeat.
Wouldn't have it any other way.
I love the chaos. The mess. The absolute joy in screaming into the unknown.
We have so many people building for the future. We need some more people building for the present.
PV ๐
Thank you so much!!!
RIP Farcaster.
I always say: embrace the chaos. And honestly, what a time to be alive stumbling upon something so special and unique, with no clue where it will lead. Thatโs the beauty of it. Nostr isnโt just about code itโs about working hand in hand with developers, testing, giving feedback, and shaping the experience together.
This week, for example, I went back and forth with
@Francis Mars on PubPay tweaking things to make it more user-friendly and creating an easy, fun way for people to get onboarded. Couldnโt ask for more. ๐
Sounds like my kids. I'm there for them as they need me. Ultimately I just want them to succeed however that looks for them.
GM!
nostr works perfectly for me. but iโm sure iโm not using it to itโs full potential
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When KYC & censorship are spreading to every platform, when people get arrested for a retweet, #Nostr is just as important as #Bitcoin. If not more. Free Speech is VITAL.
IMHO, Bitcoin and Freedom "maximalists" who stick to Elon's golden cage (and trash Nostr every chance they get) are a fascinating case of cognitive dissonance.
@Gigi nailed it. I don't care how imperfect Nostr is *today*. It's already great, improving fast, and there's is no alternative anyway. GM! โ
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If you're seeing this, you might be asking yourself, what the hell is
@PUBPAY.me? Well, like most things in NOSTR, we're still trying to figure it out ourselves. Right,
@Pedro ๐งจ ? ๐
PubPay is an attempt of making zaps act more like public payments, with payment requests and one tap socially provable payments. A sort of Venmo meets Splitwise, if you will, but on NOSTR! It can be used for purchases, splitting payments, requesting donations, and many other uses cases we're still to find out.
@Tanja has been helping by testing and providing valuable feedback with PubPay LIVE. Simply put, LIVE is an interface that tracks zaps and displays them by amount in a leaderboard. Optimized to be displayed on big screens, LIVE is often used by artists and other creators to track tips while incentivizing the audience to be part of the show. A perfect example of how NOSTR enables positive feedback loop incentives, knows as Value-for-Value.
If you're interested to find out more, read this short article I wrote about it, or try it out at pubpay.me/live ๐ซ All feedback is welcomed!
View article โThank you for sharing.
thank you for reading
What happened?
Centralized.
RIP Farcasterโบ๏ธ, is a good thing ๐๐
They are loosing users who believe in decentralized technology,
let nature do its work ๐ค, karma โ
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In the past I made an attempt, but in the process I canceled my attempt ๐ณ๐๐ณ
I never used their service, too quick visibility gave me a suspicion of centralization ๐ค
What they want to do (promising), was something great, but unfortunately it's not decentralized ๐ฒ
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#7 โก Most Zapped Last Week
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Nostrโs Value4Value (V4V) model is all about plebs directly rewarding creators for the value they receive, no middlemen fees, no ads, just pure community-driven support using sats via the Bitcoin Lightning Network.
Thanks to
ZAPLIFE.LOL
A decentralized Craigslist running on Nostr
by
@PABLOF7z for providing this data.
Here are the Top Zapped/Top Zappers from last week, showcasing creators who received/sent the most engagement:
๐ฅ Top 3: Most Zapped
1. Name:
@HODL
Zaps Received: 519
Sats Earned: 78k
2. Name:
@walker
Zaps Received: 364
Sats Earned: 142k
3. Name:
@Gigi
Zaps Received: 356
Sats Earned: 46k
๐ฅ Top 3: Most Zappers
1. Name:
@FL Justin
Zaps Sent: 314
Sats Spent: 8k
2. Name:
@bitcoinpoorguy ๆฏ็นๅนฃๅขไผ ๐ญ๐ฐ
Zaps Sent: 230
Sats Spent: 2k
3. Name:
@Laser
Zaps Sent: 167
Sats Spent: 25k
๐ฐ Top 3: Most Sats Received
1. Name:
@Fountain Boost Bot
Sats Earned: 460k
Zaps Received: 332
2. Name:
@Tanja
Sats Earned: 254k
Zaps Received: 59
3. Name:
@Huxley
Sats Earned: 199k
Zaps Received: 1
๐ฐ Top 3: Most Sats Sent
1. Name:
@El Gorila ๐ฆ๐ท
Sats Spent: 272k
Zaps Sent: 24
2. Name: Bill
Sats Spent: 207k
Zaps Sent: 2
3. Name:
@npub1t04c...53m9
Sats Spent: 106k
Zaps Sent: 14
Here are the Top Zapped from last week, showcasing notes that received the most engagement:
๐ฅ Top 3: Most Zapped
1.
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Zaps Received: 180
Sats Earned: 44k
2.
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Zaps Received: 115
Sats Earned: 11k
3.
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Zaps Received: 89
Sats Earned: 8k
๐ฅ Top 3: Most Sats
1.
View quoted note โ
Sats Earned: 250k
Zaps Received: 3
2.
View quoted note โ
Sats Earned: 118k
Zaps Received: 81
3.
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Sats Earned: 93k
Zaps Received: 19
#most-zapped_nostr_recap
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#2 ๐ฅ Community Highlights
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1. The latest revolution.social: This time with Taylor Lorenz
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2. A Tremendous Nostrich is celebrating Fatherโs day with his lovely daughter
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3. Seems like they had a nice meetup
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4. The Nostr creator is not a real #Nostr lover?
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5. This protocol is gonna be awesome
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6. It should always give incentives to attract more plebs
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7. This Nostrich is doing a lot with vlogs on Nost
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8. Nostr needs time to get better
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9. A dad proudly speaks about his daughter
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10. First Nostr posting of a lady artist
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11. Pavle celebrates the special day with Nostr
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12. Some people just talk and practically don't use Nostr
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13. There wonโt be any regret sticking with Nostr
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14. These vloggers make the Nostr better
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15. This musician has realized the value of Nostr
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16. Somehow this is the truth
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#community_nostr_recap
Being open source, I'm sure it's going to go the way Linux did.
For years I was frustrated by the lack of adoption and support. Then suddenly the web exploded and it became the base layer software for web
Linux - Base layer software for web
Bitcoin - Base layer money (increasing)
nostr - Base layer comms (increasing)
If it indeed goes the same way as Linux. The saturation will be at most 75 to 80%
Use nostr.land.
But isn't our feed only filled with who we follow?
Maybe I following account that seem spammish would help.
Unless they're taking about global.
Doesn't solve the issue of reply spam.
Run your own Relay
Awww. Gotcha. I haven't had that issue yet.
How does that help
