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Why don’t you just ask him? I’m curious what he would answer. My guess is he’s addicted to the algorithm.
Ya it's weird, Twitter is totally boring from a techie point of view
n00bs gonna n00b. I think it's a LARP to most people.
fair enough. "put your nsec where your mouth is"
And from an indie web point of view, sounds like the dude is addicted to dopamine.
You're the cypherpunk Lyn
Yesterday you discussed like for 24 hours straight? Oof!
Broken incentives
I'd love to do business with you Lyn
I often wonder what tech I am clueless of?
In my experience, when people talk about how punk they are, it usually seems to be a contra-indicator for how punk they are.
Calling yourself cypherpunk is a little bit like calling yourself wise. It's sus.
Would they be what us nostriches refer to as a LARP? 😘🙌
Just like #Monero people losing their minds over Bitcoiners considering themselves cypherpunk, being cypherpunk is on a spectrum.
Yeah if openly marketing, just talking up their personal book. Blank pages
Do you even decentralize, Bro?
When can you call yourself a cypherpunk? I've been interested in freedom tech for a long time, say for something around 25 to 30 years. I played around with the early cypherpunk remailers, then mixmaster, then JonDonym, Freenet (now Hyphanet), TOR and I2P. I'm an advocate of open source software, am running my own Bitcoin node and have been interested in crypto currencies for over 10 years now. But still I'd say, there are a lot of people more cypherpunk than me out there.
I find their lack of integrity disturbing
I think nostr lack of incentives for people to be able to run public relays.
Until their is an easy relay app to install on Umbrel or Start9, with easy customisation to make it a pay relay with a reputation system based on uptime data etc..., to filter content, to allocate memory and this kind of stuff, I can understand that some cypherpunk guys don't find it so different of the original web... which turned centralized pretty quickly because of this lack of incentives for people to run their own servers.
It's not just the centralization, but that it's so corporate and closed off. This was even true before it was bought and renamed to X.
To be fair though, if they were only on Twitter but they were constantly posting about repurposing subsidized corporate tech to run full open source code, and the open source cryptography code they're writing, I'd say they're legit. Maybe they're on Fedi, private Matrix groups, the cortex implant forums and other places. Or maybe they're on nostr under another nym?
I say if you're going to judge them, do so based more on the content of their posts than where they post it.
Tell him to go eat a pizza, he's probably fat
It is possible that he doesn't link the two accounts.
I do the same. I am not Laan on X.
It enhances privacy.
I hope you have a nym on #nostr Lyn.
; - )
This. You should compartmentalize social media use.
Actions>words
That reminds me of a person that asked for help to present a project about a BIP for bitcoin and present himself as an expert in cyber security. I put him in contact with some people, then he went to present his project said he was a cybersecurity expert and opens a laptop running Ubuntu LOL. Not even Debian or QubesOS...
We're all on the spectrum here
After I found myself running my own BTC lightning node, I too started to suspect I might be on the spectrum.
What's wrong with Ubuntu?
Nothing wrong with Ubuntu, but its a ready to use easy to install grandma Linux distro. If someone is an IT cyber security expert nerds would expect an OS like qubes, Debian or arch.
Dunning-Kruger
see your point 😅 but still, being cyber expert doesn't mean that
you must compile your own Linux kernel and write your very own drivers for the hardware, or else you're a normie 😉
The cryptographic proof might be that you couldn’t ‘find’ him/her on nostr 🤣 but maintaining totally disconnected identities is hard so many don’t bother.
Haha yes, it's mostly about impressions like bitcoin core devs using gmail accounts. But it tells a lot of person if he/she cares about some values and put them in practice.
Weird
I still think of nostr as massively niche. Most info on here is skewed to only a few topics and it’s repetitive. IMHO it remains to be seen how and if it will actually be widely adopted.
But I remain optimistic.
Names.
They might hungry for x drama.
He runs his own Mastodon instance because he was early. Now he's auditing Nostr, trying to figure out how he's not giving away his private key. It's still a mystery.
Drama is on centralized socials. So everyone stays there.
You're way more cypherpunk than Twitter maxis.
My guess is there’s just more users on those platforms therefore more outreach on posts/easier to communicate with the masses
Optimistic = it will not remain widely adopted.
I don't want normies here :)
Not really.
There are many really good hackers with a Mac and I even know a few that run (and hack) Windows.
Ubuntu is good, you need wide tooling for hacking.
Also, we don't use "cyber security expert", no one who is one would use this phrase to describe themselves, ever :).
If their business card says "cyber security expert", the only answer to that is "good for you, bye" :)
If you're bragging about being cypherpunk, you're not a cypherpunk.
#PoW
There is a lot of techie guys who does not on a single satoshi. They just not understand worth of it. Sad but true.
Ego. They love the likes
Russell Brand talking about decentralization, freedom of speech and Bitcoin . . . never mentions NOSTR once.
Of course he did have the CEO of Rumble with him. The whole thing felt like a sales pitch for centralized Rumble, that bows to oppression requests of Brazil, etc..
May I add, that on these centralised media platforms, the spam and scam level plus distractions and commercials which are basically digital trash really really suck. Makes those platforms unusable imo. But it numbs people I guess, like drugs, no other explanation possible.
Most people stay on Twitter because they don’t want to go through the effort of rebuilding their reach on Nostr. I miss some of the people over there, but it’s much better here.
I'm happy just being a Linux enthusiast.
so.... how's Dan the bitcoiner who only use Twitter Held??
It’s still Twitter to me too. Will never call it by its current name 🤣💀
First year on nostr, feels freer than twitter
I appreciate your presence on Nostr, but being active on Twitter while critizing someone for not being active enough on Nostr makes no sense to me.
The coming nightmare..
Maybe the cyberpunk likes solutions that scale. I know, weird, right?
Meanwhile on nostr:
cloud fodder
have you noticed nostr got a lot quieter in the last weeks? if you did, its probably because your notes are being rejected by naieve throttling on ALL the big relays.
you wont notice it when you post because clients dont surface this info to you, for all you know just nobody liked your post, but the reality is it did not post.
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I'm a cypherpunk and I deleted everything but nostr can I get some funding?
it's cypher, not cyber, and if the trade of is centralization for scalability, we prefer decentralized and small scale, but thanks for the input.
The Cypherpunk Manifesto, written by Eric Hughes in 1993, is a seminal document that outlines the philosophy and goals of the movement. Most use centralized social media because of their reach of influence that they’ve already established. It takes a lot more work and time here on NOSTR. Which is a good thing if you’re a Cypherpunk maxi.
im just guessing but it might be possible som cypher punks are primarily on popular social media just to get exposure to more people, nostr is great but it isnt going to get your message out to as many people
If I want to proselytize (I don't) I go on Twitter
If I want to speak to people who already understand freedom, I go on nostr
Because they are posers
Lyn Alden
Sometimes I run into a tech guy on Twitter, who talks about how cypherpunk he is.
I’m just a financial analyst and investor, so that’s cool to hear. The more cypherpunks, the better. I like to fund cypherpunks.
But then I look around, and he’s not active on Nostr for over a year. He’s only active on centralized social media.
So then I am confused at how supposedly cypherpunk he is. Is he really that reliant on centralized media? Often, it turns out yes. If not, what other cryptographic proof does he have for his work?
As Nostr increasingly gains network adoption, it becomes weirder when I analyze why someone who is techie is highly active on Twitter but not at all on Nostr.
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I am observing disconnects everywhere and with many people. It's interesting to see this human behavior.
The person that you are describing might do it just for the sake of reaching the masses and educate them....that would be my naive take / giving benefit over doubt first.
Nostr: use our shitty software and leave Twitter!
Them: user experience lol
All nostr has to do to kick ass is to modify existing ActivityPub software with its Decentralized authentication
One Vegan Dev has done this. Its called Ditto
Nobody on nostr is embraceing this quality software and user experience
No wonder why main stream social media is not coming here
Lyn Alden
Sometimes I run into a tech guy on Twitter, who talks about how cypherpunk he is.
I’m just a financial analyst and investor, so that’s cool to hear. The more cypherpunks, the better. I like to fund cypherpunks.
But then I look around, and he’s not active on Nostr for over a year. He’s only active on centralized social media.
So then I am confused at how supposedly cypherpunk he is. Is he really that reliant on centralized media? Often, it turns out yes. If not, what other cryptographic proof does he have for his work?
As Nostr increasingly gains network adoption, it becomes weirder when I analyze why someone who is techie is highly active on Twitter but not at all on Nostr.
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technology is once again on the prawl and it is moving fast. All things cypherpunk take a degree of effort / know how... you know, proof of work.
They’re actually like crackheads 😂
Ok but were they wearing this?
It’s the POS mindset. They talk the talk but don’t walk the walk! Few have deep morales and principles.
Maybe, just maybe, he is under a different pseudonym on Nostr vs Twitter. Just maybe
You have a consistent talent for communicating so little through the use of so many words. 🙏🏻
I think nostr small learning curve outlines their personal switching cost. People like the cypherpunk idea but struggle with fully embarrassing the tech
Quit X. Seriously—just quit it. What's stopping you?
🤯
I dont X, but I do Linkedisney. Trying to spread the decentralization word there.
Somethimes I post here too...
Thank you for encouraging us Lyn!
Competent counter signal and good eye on the future
Cypherpunk with actualize npd
He just writes code and books of course
He probably has a PhD in cypherpunk.
She has a good point. And I'm somewhat guilty in that way too. (the quote looks strage, let's see how it turns out after sending)
Lyn Alden
Sometimes I run into a tech guy on Twitter, who talks about how cypherpunk he is.
I’m just a financial analyst and investor, so that’s cool to hear. The more cypherpunks, the better. I like to fund cypherpunks.
But then I look around, and he’s not active on Nostr for over a year. He’s only active on centralized social media.
So then I am confused at how supposedly cypherpunk he is. Is he really that reliant on centralized media? Often, it turns out yes. If not, what other cryptographic proof does he have for his work?
As Nostr increasingly gains network adoption, it becomes weirder when I analyze why someone who is techie is highly active on Twitter but not at all on Nostr.
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I joined nostr before most bitcoiners tbh. Before Jack made it cool. :)
But I just don't have the habit yet to check amethyst as often as I do X. I guess it has to do with drama/controversy.
With nostr you can be your own drama/controversy 😁
