it’s fucking crazy that the us president can demand that an app he doesn’t like can be taken down from the app stores. and they all comply.
chinese communist party vibes. the us has turned into their enemy.
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thankful for nostr
There seems to be nothing that he can’t demand, grift, or bribe. Also thankful for Nostr!!
I think the US will most likely realize this and correct course. We tend to tolerate a lot of shit before doing the right thing. A country like ours can't really compete the Chinese way, by design. It'll eventually become too inconvenient to keep trying, although I agree that we are seemingly trying.
Also very thankful for Nostr
Its amazing he does it out in the open and shows us the power the executive branch really has. I'm sure you have been noticing this kind of shit was happening in secret for decades.
I bet you'll still cast your vote in your next round of government "elections" though, won't you.
In canada the new "completely illigal" bill alloys the gov to tirn off your access to the internet if they dont like what a citizen is saying
I mean, it was an app the directly interfered with law enforcement… it’s not like he made them remove angry birds.
Has usa had chinese blueprint on table a while, but only now rolling out in full?
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I think the homeboi is French.
I don't know. Your country has been doing the wrong thing in foreign policy for many decades, and there's no sign of course correction.
Quite.
These are dangerous and disturbing times in the USA.
That's why I said "your" national elections. It doesn't matter which government we're talking about. The one is as bad as the other, and to vote at all is simply to endorse the scam.
Freedom of speech, code is speech Tim. If he demands someone to silence someone else then he is no better than those we criticize.
Are you referring to the CBP One app?
Agreed, but to be fair, it was a government app setup by Joe Biden.
Not nearly as funny as the wall of presidential photos outside the oval office with Joe's picture being an Autopen 😂
That's too broad a statement to meaningfully respond to. I would generally agree that we should worry more about ourselves and to hell with everyone else, if that's what you mean. My foreign policy is that and complete destruction of any enemy that attacks us. No fucking around. No political games. No long drawn out conflicts. Just over and out, back to minding our own business and affairs. But then we didn't start the two WWs we fought in either so... It isnt like the rest of the world has always demanded that we just do nothing and focus on ourselves.
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freedom of expression should not depend on the current clown in office
Democracy and freedom of speech at its finest.
Luckily we can still "side load" apps on android for now.
until next year
Clowns fighting clowns 🤡
Many of us would love for Europe, the Middle East, or Asia to show us how it's done 😂
And the irony of it all is that 25 years ago the thinking was that, over time, China would gravitate towards a system that more aligned with the “liberal democracies” of the world.
In the end, it now appears as though the opposite is true.
Your patriotism is quaint.
Me too!
Perhaps I don't understand your view very well.
My understanding:
The government under Joe Biden published an app to assist migrants obtain citizenship.
The new administration doesn't want migrants, so removed that app.
Although it's a different administration with a different agenda, it is the government publishing, then removing its own app.
Without getting into opinions on emigration, or political opinions about the effectiveness of various leaders. I don't understand your concern?
What app?
Signal?
That's too reasonable! Quit being so soft, Mike!!
i'm simply moving to my flip phone full time when that happens. until such time as a true alternative exists
It's not silencing, my understanding was the app identified ICE locations and movements. It's a pure interfering with the law situation. Though I will say we have done the same thing with speed traps for years and no one seemed to care about that.
I am a pussy, that's true 😂
You definitely voted for kamala.
Thought we were working on this
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😂 😂 😂
Dammit. I had just the meme response but can't find it. Wouldn't even be funny anymore, this late. 😤😤
grapheneos already exists
I am an amateur memer, but even my library is getting too vast to search effectively.
We need an app for that 🥁
*on cucked devices
So much missing context
Good thing nostr exists
it’s fucking crazy that the us president can demand that an app he doesn’t like can be taken down from the app stores. and they all comply.
chinese communist party vibes. the us has turned into their enemy.
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Please help educating users about @Zapstore
Google might ban/censor us as well
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That's my other, non-flip phone.
Cans and string!
A thread full of statists
#growNOSTR
Dan Carlin talked about this in his Common Sense Show way before Trump was elected. The Powers the executive branch takes from the people will be given to the next person in charge, even if you don't like that guy.
Found it in unrelated search. Haha!
Better late than never 😂
Side note - tested gigis ants ap to search for @stache and he does not exist
You know that feeling when somebody says something as if you should absolutely know what they're talking about, but you don't?
Yes. Just postin' my each and every brain toot
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they're literally all the same
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statists gonna statist
there's no difference, some governments wear horizontal stripes and stars, others just wear stars, it doesn't matter
@hal what is he talking about?
It’s kinda funny watching people complaining about lack of free speech as they freely speak about the issue on NOSTR, X, Youtube, Rumble,…….
Are you even American? Worry about your the politics in your own country
he's criticizing the us government's push to force tiktok's chinese parent company bytedance to sell the app or face removal from app stores, calling it authoritarian censorship like the ccp's tactics.
the post references a 2024 law signed by biden over national security concerns, with lawmakers directing apple and google to prepare for the january 19, 2025 ban date if no deal is made.
reuters
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-lawmakers-tell-apple-google-be-ready-remove-tiktok-app-stores-jan-19-2024-12-13/
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If the current administration didn't want immigrants they would be going after the likes of Tyson foods and other giant companies but instead they are performing deportation theater.
I'm not American, I have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm discussing how a government removing an immigration app it had previously published reduces freedom of expression.
Thank you. So is your pessimism.
it's crazy to you because you don't understand how the fiat system works. Do you think the US and the world was a free market country or something?
As a human I don't understand how the publisher of an app deciding to remove said app reduces freedom of expression. Immigration is now and always has been a political football in the US with both parties enabling the largest corporations to get away with hiring illegal immigrants for poor wages and working conditions driving down the wages of working Americans
It's wild. Sacrificing everything for the vague safety.
Canada needs a massive Orange/Freedom Pill.
We're trying to do our part with nudging the culture - with an Audio Drama.
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If we both don't understand, then shall we wait for a response from the person that claimed it to be so?
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Lol I see... I thought you were making the argument. Sorry I shouldn't join conversations halfway through
Publicly disclosing the location of LEO's = "interfering"?
😂
Most current flip phones use Google's Android. They have for a while now.
Freedom of Speech is an unalienable right. Unalienable rights can never be taken from away from anyone or regulated by any institution, not even by a 100% majority rule.
Governments have zero authority over them. All they can do is infringe on them or protect them.
I thought Calle was talking about the ICE reporting app.
Isn't Calle taking about the ICE reporting app?
And Hal thinks he's talking about Biden's pending TikTok ban 😂
UN agenda and WEF agenda.
Wait until you see what your can load into Linux phones...
Is worldwide, mainly being pushed by the UN "we're not Marxists" woke cultural Marxists.
not this one. its a nokia with no internet. calls and text
"Ambiguity is the mother of discord" as I've just invented 😂
It's "Android-based" - MOCOR - but the fact that it doesn't do anything at all (not to mention not sideloading apps, because there are no apps...) limits how much the "Android" part matters wrt this conversation.
It obviously inherits all SIM-based evils and other carrier/OS issues, but the app store stuff is irrelevant here.
I would say so in this case, its purposely telling those who would be arrested or have broken the law, not to go there. Which therefor inhibits enforcement. Look at is as the reverse of the registered sex offenders list. Which tells us where the bad guys are, very handy for parents. This app was telling the bad guys where the good guys are (i understand that of course is a matter of perspective)
Yes "bad guys" is very much subjective, I tend to side against the masked men ziptying pregnant women, but to each their own I guess...
And leaving aside for the moment the fact that "breaking the law" in this case constitutes predominantly administrative infractions related to immigration rather than anything that be considered a serious crime by most people...
Why should armed and (barely) self-identified LEOs have the presumptuous of privacy in public when members of the public don't?
There is no legal statute anywhere stating that simply reporting on the location of armed and self-identified LEOs has anything to do with "interference" of their operations.
This is 100% first amendment protected free speech, and Apple is caving to fascists like Stephen Miller by doing this.
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ADB sideloading will still be there. Thats what I heard.
Man you are either a statist cuck or your are not. There is no context bullshit.
Threats were made, I'm sure.
I don’t think you understand what free speech in the 1st amendment means.
Targeted Warning with Criminal Intent is Not Protected: Specifically communicating information with the intent to help a criminal evade arrest, escape justice, or commit a crime is a criminal act and is not protected by the First Amendment.