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jack 1 year ago
who’s watching the watchers

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The secular moral compass is all about doing what thou will while no one is watching. The Christian moral compass is doing the best all the time because God knows everything. Also no need for artificial intelligence when you can tap into Creator of everything and get the best knowledge.
Hey man, I don't know what to tell you. It is weird that Jack was asking me for my social security number because of an emergency.
Who's watching the watchers? Linux nerds, libertarians, anarcho-capitalists, Molotov-level anti-capitalists, White nationalists, Black nationalists, Jew-critical activists of all kinds, real philosophers, Bitcoiners, and other people of good will.
Let’s supervise the politicians first. Most crime will stop over night when the little guy watches his celebrity politicians hang from a rope in the public square.
The Chinese already reaching this dystopian time with almost complete control & surveillance of your daily life and it seems to be like a really horrible nightmare. Why the fuck don't these people think ahead 3 minutes before ushering idiotic surveillance ideas like this? Who in his right mind would increase the power of the state this massively? This approach has future digital totalitarian dictatorship written all over it. Every freedom loving person has to stand up to this. #Stayfree
The Chinese already reaching this dystopian time with almost complete control & surveillance of your daily life and it seems to be like a really horrible nightmare. Why the fuck don't these people think ahead 3 minutes before ushering idiotic surveillance ideas like this? Who in his right mind would increase the power of the state this massively? This approach has future digital totalitarian dictatorship written all over it. Every freedom loving person has to stand up to this. #Stayfree #StopMassSurveillance View quoted note →
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CB 1 year ago
This immediate assumption that we should do something because we can is frightening. People “solving problems” without regard for liberty. I guess this is what happens when you’ve had too many pitch meeting for your government/corporate contracts. “We should have nanobots injected into everyone so we can have early diagnosis and eased reporting to insurance companies. And give reduced rates for those consuming their quota of heart-healthy canola oil. blah blah blah blah…” I know people that think along these lines, and I feel like it may be too late for them. It’s like they’re overcome with cleverness and can’t let go of collectivist agendas. They may be worse than the nihilists that feel humans are innately evil and can’t be trusted. image
Not the concern of the cattle; the ultimate revolution.
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Wrightwood. Cal. 21 October, 1949 Dear Mr. Orwell, It was very kind of you to tell your publishers to send me a copy of your book. It arrived as I was in the midst of a piece of work that required much reading and consulting of references; and since poor sight makes it necessary for me to ration my reading, I had to wait a long time before being able to embark on Nineteen Eighty-Four. Agreeing with all that the critics have written of it, I need not tell you, yet once more, how fine and how profoundly important the book is. May I speak instead of the thing with which the book deals — the ultimate revolution? The first hints of a philosophy of the ultimate revolution — the revolution which lies beyond politics and economics, and which aims at total subversion of the individual’s psychology and physiology — are to be found in the Marquis de Sade, who regarded himself as the continuator, the consummator, of Robespierre and Babeuf. The philosophy of the ruling minority in Nineteen Eighty-Four is a sadism which has been carried to its logical conclusion by going beyond sex and denying it. Whether in actual fact the policy of the boot-on-the-face can go on indefinitely seems doubtful. My own belief is that the ruling oligarchy will find less arduous and wasteful ways of governing and of satisfying its lust for power, and these ways will resemble those which I described in Brave New World. I have had occasion recently to look into the history of animal magnetism and hypnotism, and have been greatly struck by the way in which, for a hundred and fifty years, the world has refused to take serious cognizance of the discoveries of Mesmer, Braid, Esdaile, and the rest. Partly because of the prevailing materialism and partly because of prevailing respectability, nineteenth-century philosophers and men of science were not willing to investigate the odder facts of psychology for practical men, such as politicians, soldiers and policemen, to apply in the field of government. Thanks to the voluntary ignorance of our fathers, the advent of the ultimate revolution was delayed for five or six generations. Another lucky accident was Freud’s inability to hypnotize successfully and his consequent disparagement of hypnotism. This delayed the general application of hypnotism to psychiatry for at least forty years. But now psycho-analysis is being combined with hypnosis; and hypnosis has been made easy and indefinitely extensible through the use of barbiturates, which induce a hypnoid and suggestible state in even the most recalcitrant subjects. Within the next generation I believe that the world’s rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience. In other words, I feel that the nightmare of Nineteen Eighty-Four is destined to modulate into the nightmare of a world having more resemblance to that which I imagined in Brave New World. The change will be brought about as a result of a felt need for increased efficiency. Meanwhile, of course, there may be a large-scale biological and atomic war — in which case we shall have nightmares of other and scarcely imaginable kinds. Thank you once again for the book. Yours sincerely, Aldous Huxley
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This is why democracy is meaningless and always leads to autocracy on a long enough period of time. You can't have a monopoly in any economic field, especially the defense one because it leads to this infinite recursion of who is watching the watchers.
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NickJunes 1 year ago
How does he see all of this as a good thing? A police nanny state where every possible infraction is reported. People will be afraid to live.
I always find it crazy how people can describe dystopian societies, absolute dystopias AS SOMETHING GOOD. we're already living in most dystopian novels put together, and here's someone basically claiming that perhaps if we added a little more dystopia the world would become "better", this is crazy, literally crazy
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Lethal Lee 1 year ago
I doubt there will be supervision on his island 🫢
Anyone who takes a tour of several neighborhoods in Santiago de Chile will be impressed by the level of surveillance achieved and the complacency with which privacy has been given up in exchange for supposed security. It is overwhelming.
In the world of #surveillance, we must always question those who hold power over our# information. "The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power." - George Orwell, 1984 #quotestr
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Luis 1 year ago
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
"Stargate" already rhymes with Watergate and many other scam-gates. Should've put more thought 💭 into naming!
The sheer irony of this post. Full circle and yes it is the Watchmen. They are appointed by God. You are easily one of the most *powerful* human beings on this planet. Also, among the most humble hence why you don’t embrace it. But you may be the only person in the world who can find out exactly what Starlite is. Why isn’t Elon on board with this? Is it personal because of his ongoing rift with Sam or is there something more nefarious at play? Perhaps, it’s both. Or maybe it’s all just speculation. “BUT IF THE WATCHMAN SEE THE SWORD COME, AND BLOW NOT THE TRUMPET, AND THE PEOPLE BE NOT WARNED; IF THE SWORD COME, AND TAKE ANY PERSON FROM AMONG THEM, HE IS TAKEN AWAY IN HIS INIQUITY; BUT HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THE WATCHMAN'S HAND.”~ EZEKIEL 33:6 image
Also, entropy. This is the unforeseeable & the unseen. The supernatural. It is the basic law of the universe that entropy must *always* increase.🧬🔬⚗️🔭🧪☄️🪐🤍 Question: Who governs the governors? Answer: Entropy ~ Frank Herbert “Just as the constant increase of entropy is the basic law of the universe, so it is the basic law of life to be ever more highly structured and to struggle against entropy.” ~ Vaclav Havel image
It’s all tied together. It’s a package deal.💥☣️ “The increase of disorder or entropy with time is one example of what is called an arrow of time, something that distinguishes the past from the future, giving a direction to time.”~ Stephen Hawking image
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Lea 1 year ago
What I mean is that humans do not force other humans to do crimes via technological control. What I really mean is that since the technology is possible, every single thing that can do it needs to be destroyed for all of humans future. what i mean is #butlerianjihad
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Alan Siefert 1 year ago
Open source AI is currently keeping up, not being more than a few months behind frontier model releases. Hope it continues that way.
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Alice 1 year ago
I hate this part bc I love privacy but it only protects me for now but you see how bad services are right now. Horrible for other ppl, especially with kids in this situation!