I knew this day would probably come, but didn't expect it so soon. I am being investigated for running an illegal money transmission business in Canada (nodeless) Under the advice of my lawyers I need to shut down the main instance of it. As you guys know I made Nodeless completely open source in the event that this happens, so that others who don't live under communism can run a honest, privacy focused payments business. To my clients who are using it, I'm very sorry for the short notice but you'll need to find a new payment processing solution this weekend. DM me on telegram and I will personally walk you through setting up a btcpayserver instance that you can self host, or even your own instance of nodeless. I can't give much more information than this, not even supposed to say this much, but I owe it to you guys to let you know what's going on. To install nodeless on your own server, you can get started here:

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TheZenLlama 2 years ago
And I hope everything will be fine around you! 🫂🦙
damn. couldn't have happened to a more dedicated person. I'm sorry to hear this. does this mean Canada now recognizes Bitcoin as money and it should be treated as such? View quoted note →
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10Luno 2 years ago
Sorry to hear this our pleb. i know this sounds offtopic but take it from someone fighting in the trenches. Don't project, don't accept the narrative or story they foist upon you. They want you in a low energy state. That's all they want. This works, with God's help: View quoted note →
So fucked. So sorry to ear. I also heard your add on bitcoin audible recently. I was curious to learn more about your product. This is kinda fucked up happening at the same time of @Wallet of Satoshi in the US. Is this a coordinated attack on bitcoin businesses ? @ODELL
Governments are just waking up to this and know they are fucked. All these attacks on bitcoin is them trying to stop the orange wave for when the CBDC comes. Gov - "we've got a new digital currency for our country!" The people - "we already use bitcoin, no thanks. Their worst nightmare is coming alive. Teach anyone who will listen!
I'm confused why you ran the service custodially when you could have easily made it non custodial by wrapping the invoice. Then it wouldn't be money transmission
This will pass swiftly and you will be victorious. 🙏 May the road be clear ahead May you move toward your goals May progress reign May your strength be unmatched Burning frankincense and myrrh to remove obstacles and clear the mind. 😉✨🙏
These were in-house and their decisions arguably cost the company hundreds of millions. So, dislike them, though we may, this is where we are. My point is that wriggling away won’t save us. Fighting back on their territory may.
If you're saying you don't want to kyc/doxx yourself... Wyoming in the USA gives you the option of registering an LLC without entering your name into public record. You just have to hire a registered agent to do your registration. Though then you run into unfriendly US regulators. I'm sure there are other overseas jurisdictions you could do similar. Perhaps Estonia?
It's gonna be a really bad day when Nostr clients and relays get the same treatment. We all need to spread benefits of Nostr to the masses but unfortunately when I talk to friends and family, they see me as a shadowy super coder. View quoted note →
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nobody 2 years ago
All the best to get through this! 🫂
Wow, that sucks! You did not even break even with it to begin with. Thank you for all your work to help bringing this space forward. Stay strong 🫂
awful to hear you're going through this. you have put a lot of work and passion in. u truly dont deserve this. sorry man 🙏
Hate seeing this happen… Especially to an incredible guy like you 🧡 Stay strong and keep your head up 💪
Feel sorry for freedom loving Canadians. Hope that another instance of nodeless can soon reborn. Thanks for your commitment to open code and transparency 🫡
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Nostralian 2 years ago
Thanks for your efforts to the community. Keep us updated.
There is no "court of law" or "justice" to be had if you don't have private property rights. King Charles III is the head of state. King Charles III and his private government writes the laws and owns all the land and all the people within. No one has private property rights, the basis of all other rights, which means they have absolutely zero rights. You don't own yourself, "your" children, "your" money, "your" bank account, "your" house, or "your" land. You own nothing. You're a slave. What is the point of walking into a courtroom if you're without private property rights? What is the point of even having lawyers? Lawyers doesn't have property rights, either. The lawyer is just another slave. In a court of "law," the only thing being decided is who gets to keep his privileges, and who doesn't. "Justice" need not apply. In a court of "law," it's you vs. His Majesty King Charles III. The slave owner wins. The plebs only have privileges. Privileges can be taken away, rights cannot. Canada is not a democracy. It's a full-on dictatorship. This is written. A slave can only revolt. Kill of the entire British Royal Family. Finish off the cleanse with a complete physical elimination off the entire Marxist nomenklatura of the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, etc. Americans and the Europeans should do the same. Annihilate the entire Marxist state apparatus, from top to bottom. This is the only right a slave has.
It was. Until Fidel banged Pierre Trudeau’s scumbag wife. Now we have Justin. Intentionally destroying our way of life. We’ll be back.
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SatsMan 2 years ago
Can I run this node through my Mac mini?
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waxwing 2 years ago
To 'gain a new territory', rather than fighting on theirs, might be an idea. I'm pretty sure someone notable used that phrase, a while back ;)
Bitcoin is money in Canada now? LFG! PS. we know it is not recognized as currency in Canada so that should be your first defense. Force their hand. I would keep running as per usual or you are admitting to wrong doing. Fuck them.
I have so many questions. What was / is the difference between signing up for paid service or running your own instance? Can you move your business to another country and still offer the same service to Canadians? Or go completely behind tor? Thank you for everything you do.
This is the harsh reality of: Then they fight you. Stay safe. Have a bugout plan. Thank you for your commitment and can't wait to see what you buidl next!
So the counterfeiters of existing system wants to investigate someone running a node for an etjicsl system, but hours is illegal to the few? Remember there is nothing illegal about practicing the laws and principles of Austrian Economics using a tool that protects & preserves those values.
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( -_-) 2 years ago
Lol, counterfeiting scammers trying to claim our database is money and that they have jurisdiction over it. All the stuff that's happening now is the signal for bitcoiners to gtfo of the collapsing fiat empires before they start lashing out wildly at *you* next. You don't owe them anything, you are not their property. Opt-out.
This is utter 🐂💩‼️ I really hope all this is cleared up as quickly as possible. Take care, everyone ✌🏾
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Cyber Seagull 2 years ago
Different systems for different people. There is room for monarchies, a natural human order system, and room for libertarian free states. Not everyone, every family, tribe or culture views their system as slavery. Some view it as an extention of their genetic and cultural family. The American style revolution replaces monarchy with celebrity, god with money and family with media. The french and chinese although very different replace monarchy with the state, an artificial creation. We should have one or a few free states, libertarian, voluntarist , whatever. Like Bitcoin they provide an alternative if abuses go too far in other state structures as they cycle through various factors such as economy and population age. I appreciate where you are coming from, but its short sighted in regards human behavior, needs and inter human relationships. A subject of a monarchy is not a slave, but they are not "completely free", neither is an american, and less and less so. I can point to several people in prison and actually persecuted in sipposed free countries for every one "under investigation". But they were more free. Following your same arguments even americans, who must always pay property/land tax, subject to the draft, and all sorts of other things, are slaves. I know this sounds statist, but in light of the fact your alternatives have yet to proven to work for millions of people and be a better alternative (slavery is allowed under some libertarian visions) i can be "anti" statist and also acknowledge it could be much worst, that monarchy and democratic states have some good features, and i can then also further claim that a non-violent transition to a better one would be good, without contradiction. Your post calls for violence, which itself would lead to an NAP violation of people who enjoy monarchy. Have you considered that under libertarian principals the king is just a large inter generational property owner? Property Rights as you conceive them did not exist before terra nullus, for instance. All property rights also derive from the ability to enforce them, thus for americans this transferred from the king to the state system and minor kings, presidents. Someone had yo claim all lamd, to then be able to parcel it out. How could it be otherwise ? All the while these minor kings maintained slaves , while the monarchy actively abolisged them, for capitalist reasons by the way, not just humanitarian. You need to read more history, the violent stuff. Touch more grass and travel more, meet people and live in other countries. OP can pay a fine, others can continue work on it, the community can learn the dumb and obvious lesson that releasing potentialy controvertial software under your real i.d and without opsec is dumb and obvious, by now. They can move, work on new things. But killing monarchs instead of slowly making them irrelevant and symbolic, is burning down the house to kill a mouse. Cypherpunks write code. They don't kill or fed post.
The good news is 'they' are confessing bitcoin is a currency. They confessed using the words payment processing. So which is it? Some had said it is nothing. Some of them say its a commodity. Sounds to me they look and sound confused.
Coming after Bitcoiners aint? The Lib government doing this at the behest of the WEF of course. The slimy bastards.
The way his previous way worked was create an invoice and then after it gets paid immediately send to the person's lightning address. Instead he could get an invoice from the person's lightning address, then create one of his own with the same payment hash. Once the invoice gets to him, he pays the original invoice from the lightning address and use the preimage to settle the payment to him.
El Salvador is only one stolen+rigged "democratic" e-voting election away from: turning their narco gangs loose again; and joining in the WEF's vision of the future. I'd never move anywhere that doesn't grant me the right to at minimum defend myself.
Wait a minute - bitcoin is not money, so you have to pay taxes from it, but on other side, it is money, when it comes to illegal money transmission. Nice.... Goog luck with that stupid rules.
Shit. I’m really sorry to hear that. 😢 don’t hesitate to ask for help if you need it.
Man, this is a bummer to see. Sorry you are having to deal with this. Hang in there utxo 🤜🫂
Just because "they" say it is illegal, makes you think the laws are there to keep the plebs under. Anything we will create for a better life making "them" irrelevant, they will make a NEW RULE: yes we have to make that illegal for no logical reason at all, blaming everything for "Your protection" or "National security". KEEP THE FIGHT. THE MORE THEY FIGHT US, THE CLEARER IT GETS... THEY ARE LOSING.
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BHN 🍁 2 years ago
We always knew its was coming but its still sad to see Canada do this. Wish there was some way we could help 🫂
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nicodemus 2 years ago
Wait wait - so could you mount a defense that, in the eyes of the government, bitcoin isn’t money? There is no value being transferred? Plenty of evidence that they don’t!
Hey man, what’s your telegram handle? I added nodeless to a couple sites and it’s a shame to see it go
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PixelBob 2 years ago
Yeah, that's what worries me about el Salvador. It all depends on bukele holding on to power
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PixelBob 2 years ago
How does "accepting btc payments" equal money transmitter?
Sorry to hear that, keep up the good fight and protect yourself! But it doesn’t come as a surprise that this happened in Canada, because it is fully controlled by the families and banksters who control the British Empire (which was only renamed to “Commonwealth” without actually changing what it had been doing for centuries. I recommend reading or listening to Matthew Ehret in order to understand how destructive and dangerous these families and their empire is.
How was this "fast"? This was predicted since before SegWit was implemented. Totally expected.
Ffs is this frightening! Am not familiar with what doxxing is so just looked it up and found this info at https:// avast.com/c-what-is-doxxing?redirect=1 What a NIGHTMARE! I hope that you’re not affected by IT!!
I heard it explained on the Bitcoin Rapid-Fire podcast episode with Jeremy from Escape to El Salvador that there are more than a majority of those in the El Salvadorian government who are orange pilled and that even without Bukele, their country's stance for the foreseeable future echos that of Bukele's El Salvador. Seems like many living there are not concerned with any US meddling.