there will still be wars under a bitcoin standard
some will even be fought specifically for bitcoin related reasons
bitcoin doesnt fix this
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yes but
Nope it doesn’t, but they can’t use my self-custodied bitcoin for their wars.
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+10 aura
they wont be able to print money to easily finance wars but they sure as hell can still put a gun to your head for taxes
Exactly right 😎💯
Bitcoin can make money and value transparent and secure, but it doesn’t change human nature or stop wars. Some conflicts might even happen because of Bitcoin itself.
In short: Bitcoin is a financial solution, not a human-political one.
Like because of every other commodity. Sadly.
Small scale wars where people have to financially support it yes. Not these chaotic never ending wars that bankers plan.
It does make them much more expensive, however.
Every war effort must allow you to amass more bitcoin then you had before which becomes significantly harder over time
But they would not be nearly as big as World War I and World War II were, thanks to endless funding at the taxpayer's expense.
There have always been wars, but at least let politicians or whoever else pay for them, but not with my money.
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Imagine watching hashrate during a bitcoin related war
The difference will be the length of the conflict.
Forever wars arent possible under a Bitcoin sta dard
unsustainable way to collect taxes
The state maximizes the destructive power of war; the philosophy of a “libertarian Bitcoin” could help
its how taxes have always been collected
Until we successfully point out that they can generate as much or more income by using wealth based sources instead.
When will JP Morgan start hiring hit squads on bitcoiners?
lost keys make the rest more valuable
Thanks for the intellectual honesty.
So many try and skip over this!
BITCOIN FUNDS THIS!!
Conflict is natural part of life
only infinity war for the purpose of money printing is solved - all other beef will still fry
War will always be fought. We are humans at the end of the day, but don't let perfect be the enemy of better.
The difference is that it’ll be a lot harder to finance them. It will be more dependent on the will of the people to pay for it.
So yeah, there will likely still be war, but probably not as many, and they won’t take as long.
Fixing most time means reducing 99%, not eliminating evil. Every ying has its yang and vice versa.
Sad truth.
Marcus Tullius Cicero: 'The sinews of war are infinite money.' This was said more than 2000 years ago by maybe the greatest statesman of humanity. Don’t confuse credit out of thin air with hard money. Statism is a cuck disease, and you seem to be spreading it – to my utter surprise.
what do you think will happen if 21% of people don't pay taxes anymore? there is a big difference between a thread and actually doing it
Agreed
People seem to forget there have been wars since way before fiat. Bitcoin doesntcm change this.
Nevermind the fact that they can easily step up their propaganda to make it seem like it is justified to buy/donate Bitcoin for war, or whatever.
The problems multiply. Now you need more soldiers to collect the taxes, to fund the soldiers to collect the taxes, etc.
Nothing like modern warfare is possible without Fiat money.
USA has something like a $trillion budget deficit.
Large part of that is the Pentagon.
Where does that money come from if they can't just print it?
Agree but conflict != war.
War is when people are forced by compulsion to kill other people they don't even know. This only works by large scale deception and lying and this is extremely costly. So we will see much less war.
Ahh.
All the Zionist scum who have been zap farming with the "bitcoin will end war" bullshit all took their masks off yesterday
Odell used the invasion a sovereign nation as an excuse to give support to a zionist pedophile.
> Marcus Tullius Cicero
rome operated on a hard money standard and fought many wars
> Statism is a cuck disease, and you seem to be spreading it – to my utter surprise
nope
nope
Bitcoin enables a mental and prespective change, were you can exit and not support wars. But americans like war since they believe they are better. It is about people changes, bitcoin just enables it.
You not staying very humble about wars, but defenetly stacking bullets lol
Wars to grab what’s left, until Nothing is left.
Bitcoin fixed my car without oil
I disagree.
But I will say that it depends on what you mean by fix it. I think the use of violence will be attempted under a bitcoin standard. I also believe it will be proven VERY penalizing for the perpetrator.
Under a bitcoin standard the financial cost for wars is not as easily obfuscated.
Fiat protects the economy in times of crisis, war being a crisis, allowing for wars to last far beyond any ideological justification has degrated beyond public support, since objectives are not ever reached to completion.
Making it expensive is the fix. Its not about suddenly everyone forgets that violence is a thing.. it just makes sure that the incentives for violence are very small compared to peaceful conflict resolution, in the short and long terms.
Bitcoin doesn't fix it, because it's not a bug, it's a feature.
Inflation, which was already prevalent in the later stages of republican era when Cicero was around, eventually killed Rome in the next few hundred years. Chipping away coins, minting by mixing with other metals was common when the state needed to raise money without raising taxes on its citizens.
Do you not agree that centrally planned credit expansion facilitates financing for endless wars much more effectively than hard money standard would allow? Let’s not concentrate on outliers that are statistically irrelevant but try to remain objective in the assessment we’re putting forth.
War and violence have been in a historical downtrend even before fiat and bitcoin as well. Humanity has been moving towards more peaceful conflict resolution systems for millennia. current armed conflicts, lasting decades are a consequence of fiat systems "protecting the economy" from any crisis at any cost, than war is just signed off as a crisis, instead of bad political work.
Maybe so. Maybe not. Nobody knows.
This
please be the first one funding those "bitcoin wars" with your sats. If you have balls...
Are you trolling us?
Axiom of resistance
Bitcoin doesn't fix human nature.
You're such a loser for liking your own posts. You should be made fun of by everyone and disowned by your family.
Fix the money, fix [many problems but not all of them in] the world
I think the argument that this had something to do with the election machinery in Venezuela is interesting.
If this was an attack on the deep state apparatus in for it.
Agree, but it does fix most problems..
Why conflict wouldn’t go to zero
Even in a fair world, humans still have:
Differing values. Competing visions of meaning. Identity and belief systems. Emotional responses: fear, pride, grief, love.
These produce friction, not war.
The key difference is this: Conflict without scarcity does not require violence. It becomes: Negotiation. Separation rather than domination. Voluntary association instead of forced unity. Think less war, more boundary-setting.
The quiet truth: A world without war isn’t one without disagreement. It’s one without mechanisms that turn disagreement into mass violence. When systems stop feeding fear, scarcity, and domination; human nature doesn’t become perfect… but it becomes manageable, relational, and sane.
(AI effectively helping articulate hope for a better future)
I disagree with most of this statement. Bitcoin/hard money stops useless wars as the government cannot print to pay the war fighter.
doesnt have the same ring to it eh
Too bearish
> Do you not agree that centrally planned credit expansion facilitates financing for endless wars much more effectively than hard money standard would allow?
yes but it doesnt end war, just forces efficiency in conducting them
especially if the target is rich in resources and bitcoin
If you ignore scale and your definition of war shrinks to the level of homicide then sure it won't end.
i don’t think i’m the one stretching definitions here
it's the scope and duration of the wars that will be reduced. no more decade-plus meat grinders.
If we're using the traditional meaning of the word, are you suggesting that nation states are capable of conducting efficient warfare?
Only the past 60 years or so. And in death counts, mainly. This is largely due to a few factors, but most importantly, we don't just line up accross from each other, run and kill one another. Technology, planes, bombs/missles, drones, satellites, radio and tv feeds, and even the Geneva Convention have added to this. The number of conflicts isnt really down globally, it rises and falls of course, but the number of deaths and scale of them is. For now....
It will stop forever wars.
no anita, it's not, and you know it, but i understand that neither you nor odell as public figures can talk sincerely and openly about this topic. if this would be true, it would be really sad and render bitcoin useless
There might still be wars, but doesn’t it make it more expensive to keep on the forever wars?
Bitcoin is the opposite of useless and we all know it.
But at some point it will make it a lot «harder» or should i say «expensive»
Mobilizing personell to fight offensive wars on behalf of a nation is totaly different in 2026 vs. 1940/ 1800s 1600s etc. Partly because of the internet/comms/info spread. Partly because the money ain’t money anymore.
When bitcoin becomes widespread money, money becomes more money than money has ever been. When the tank is empty, it’s empty. Provable scarcity will make sure of this.
Might be wrong, let’s see
I'd tweet this by saying,
up till global Bitconization and fiat becomes completely Irrelevant and can no longer fund wars. After that point, they really have to pay to go to war.
Thanks for the AI slop. Please try doing it yourself next time.
Even in a bitcoin world, people will find ways to print money. Bitcoin fixes a lot of problems, but people are incredibly good at making new problems.
What could be fixed is the size of the wars.
No more global wars funded with debt, only wars paid by what nations have in their treasuries.
No more never-ending wars.
They probably won't last as long as fiat wars, though.
It does incentives better behavior.
How does a nation state hold Bitcoin? Who holds the keys? Bitcoin is for the people.
Can’t collect it from everyone