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nostr wins if it stops trying to be a twitter clone and starts being the invisible layer underneath apps you actually want to use. like bitchat for location-based messaging, diVine for entertainment, whitenoise for private messaging, zap.stream for streaming, shakespeare for vibe coding, etc. it wins by unbundling into 50 different apps that all talk to each other, rather than one giant app/corp that traps you. it's all about the ecosystem.
2025-11-27 22:38:28 from 1 relay(s) 97 replies ↓
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The truth is that Nostr has been a failure so far. Few active participants, empty groups, and it keeps declining. This will only change if Nostr becomes easier to use, forms strategic partnerships, and attracts some celebrities and their fans.
2025-11-27 23:10:53 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 8 replies ↓ Reply
Pfft. Speak for yourself. I've been around over two years. It has gotten easier, faster, safer, more reliable (except primal), more interesting, more varied than twitter clones, and I've met some of the best people in the world (even in person) through the nostr protocol. You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion, but... Go be a doomer somewhere else or build something better.
2025-11-27 23:35:37 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
#Nostr, this social, is actually the most suitable for Chinese, but unfortunately, the Chinese are too stupid. Chinese people don't understand the importance of Nostr as a firewall that can avoid CCP.🫣
2025-11-27 23:43:16 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
E por essa versatilidade que é bom. Quem vem buscando um X que descubra as possibilidades que o Nostr permite e entenda que não é uma “alternativa”, é uma rede.
2025-11-28 00:25:45 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Agreed. The path is clear. nostr:nevent1qqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgq3qsg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63qxpqqqqqqz8xrdey
2025-11-28 04:29:37 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Whitenoise mention nostr:nevent1qqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgw0zuf6
2025-11-28 04:45:23 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Exactly! So many ways to connect people with this protocol that frees people up from the obligated corralling and oversight of any given company. nostr:nevent1qqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgw0zuf6
2025-11-28 05:34:28 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Should Nostr apps like nostr:nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnsv9ex2ar09e6x7amwqyv8wumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wsqzq5edsvxllcyuz0n4azc5tjp9wx8uz2cqq0mp6c0fqamjr3llly7tksuz3y rethink their UI/UX design because the first thing a new person sees when they arrive is a Twitter‑like clone? I think it would help to give them a unique and better look, especially if it is actually something completely different. nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpq35r7yzkm4te5460u00jz4djcw0qa90zku7739qn7wj4ralhe4zqqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcz34fnk
2025-11-28 07:28:45 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
💯 It's always been about the other stuff. nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpq35r7yzkm4te5460u00jz4djcw0qa90zku7739qn7wj4ralhe4zqqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcz34fnk
2025-11-28 07:37:28 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Well I think the current nostrverse is filled with people who don’t like big companies. But maybe Im biased and I personally hate to work and for big companies. So getting to big companies in the nostrverse is a long way, but I do see the benefits of having them tho.
2025-11-28 07:39:42 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 1 replies ↓ Reply
Are you happy with how andotherstuff.org is being run? I liked the idea, but frankly it did not deliver on it's promise of community involvement, transparency etc. andotherstuff.org (the website) seems to have the right ideas to add in more devs and community, but it is just a boilerplate website of dead promises. So why not move forward on that? Just lacking a leader on both projects I suppose? Is this an inherent problem with these non profits, is transparency is a threat to the model? I'm a previous opensats recipient btw, the project is doing OK but could do so much more.. I could do more. My last application/proposal may have been too ambitious, because I am ambitious. I am looking to disrupt, create community and accelerate here but all I got back was a boilerplate rejection. How am I supposed to guess at what needs doing, what my mistakes may have been, and apply my skills where they are needed? Opensats invested in me and my projects in the past, why is it so nebulous to determine a path forward afterward? 🤔 Happy black friday 🎉
2025-11-28 08:25:35 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
jack hero! him invent bloosky n nostr! dvine make brane strong. him new to bitcoin and fix so every1 rich! save world! no verify, trust!
2025-11-28 08:38:57 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
who need indpendnt tinking bilders when jack rich n throw munney round? him invent nostr so he king. he save bitcoin by do 100000000:1 split! only ever be 2.1 quadillon bitcoin! soon me have 2000 bitcoin worth $1.82! me rich! moon-lambo-botes-hose!
2025-11-28 08:49:28 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Yeah! nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpq35r7yzkm4te5460u00jz4djcw0qa90zku7739qn7wj4ralhe4zqqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcz34fnk
2025-11-28 09:05:05 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
"50 different apps that all talk to each other". About what though? What is Bitchat talking to DiVine about? What is Shakespeare talking to White Noise about? Other pitches I get, but I'm not sure I understand this cross-talk-between-radically-different-apps pitch. nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpq35r7yzkm4te5460u00jz4djcw0qa90zku7739qn7wj4ralhe4zqqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcz34fnk
2025-11-28 09:10:29 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 2 replies ↓ Reply
Agreed. Nostr is part of a zero-knowledge trust (ZNT) ecosystem. Started building ZNT last week, with Nostr as the first authorisation protocol. The reason was the only viable option is Hashicorp's vault technology. That would mean us being able to administer customer's trading portfolio keys. There are other Magic 7 implementations that suck, OAuth. Incidentally, X blocked out Cryptostatto account for talking about Nostr and sharing a get endpoint. Everything AI automated BS.
2025-11-28 11:13:47 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
nostr adoption via twitter-clone is like playing hard-mode All “alternative to ____” nostr apps will benefit from adoption, not cause it. nostr:nevent1qqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgw0zuf6
2025-11-28 11:32:16 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 4 replies ↓ Reply
nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m It would be desirable if Nostr one day achieved the same status as X (Twitter). If you want to stay up-to-date, you currently have to use X. If you were to use Nostr exclusively, you might still be largely trapped in the Bitcoin bubble. X is 14 years older than Nostr. But with a little patience, the time will come that the Nostr community is hoping for. So grateful that #Nostr exists 🙏
2025-11-28 13:21:32 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
It will never win as longs as it relay on Relays. Relays are operated by people. So far those people turned out to be cunts. It’s better to be banned by the billionaire and the algorithm and AI than to be banned by a couple of nobodies in their mother’s basement making decisions arbitrarily to ban people from the big relays.
2025-11-28 13:23:42 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Nostr will never win as longs as it relay on Relays. Relays are operated by people. So far those people turned out to be cunts. It’s better to be banned by the billionaire and the algorithm and AI than to be banned by a couple of nobodies in their mother’s basement making decisions arbitrarily to ban people from the big relays. #asknostr #GM GM #nostr
2025-11-28 13:24:21 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 1 replies ↓ Reply
Nostr wins if it allows us to keep posting whatever we want. Truly keeps the 1st amendment. I can't even see the posts from people I follow in X. It's the most annoying thing. Twitter used to win when you were around because people felt in community. I joined twitter only for the tech community. The community was thriving. The tech community in X is dead. RIP. People no longer share their code. nostr:nevent1qqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgq3qsg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63qxpqqqqqqz8xrdey
2025-11-28 14:00:50 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
this is true... the protocol is powerful but user growth is important too... i think it needs monetary incentives apart for organic v4v zaps.. that's the big conundrum...
2025-11-28 16:20:26 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
I agree, but to your credit nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumt0wd68ytnsw43qz9nhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wsfurw04, you and team tapped into a sweet spot for engagement with Twitter (short messaging, embedded video and images, etc). So, I don’t think it’s an either or….i think it’s matter of everything you said about Nostr being a base protocol for 50+ useful apps AND one or more of those being Twitter-like. nostr:nprofile1qqs9xtvrphl7p8qnua0gk9zusft33lqjkqqr7cwkr6g8wusu0lle8jcprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnsv9ex2ar09e6x7amw5254wh and nostr:nprofile1qqsraldwhvwcjgltmxwfu7kw8dqef2692yhzheuurd7k3kfy8cxjdqgpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpr9mhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5klh2fe have the market on this. Excited about future for all Nostr based apps.
2025-11-28 17:06:36 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Lets present nostr:nprofile1qywhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytfsxyh8jcttd95x7mnwv5hxxmmd9uq32amnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwv3sk6atn9e5k7tcqyzle6r3et3q56rjeu594t36ume4ukf7tw7x84xst6kjd7w5h3xl37465ky5 The new way to achieve real immutability in the world of digital signature services. Built on #nostr #choosetruth www.authenticdoc.online image
2025-11-28 18:09:51 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
People want to normify things because they want to increase their clout and follower count. If something normifies, it should happen organically, because the thing was useful to people. A thing should be useful to whoever finds it useful, not seek to be everything to everyone. Chasing that is MBA thinking, it's something only spoken by FAANG webdevs building a resume who casually use terms like "business case."
2025-11-28 19:25:20 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Yes agreed which is why we are developing NOSTR fundraising as a value play with incredible upside and zero downside. No cost, no risk, cancel anytime, very simple yet very powerful when NOSTR, Bitcoin and ecash are combined with lightning of course and an easy way to adopt freedom tech without understanding anything🙂 Thank you Jack. The way you have incorporated square is ideal and a huge value prop which could be exclusive to square on a subscription side but open on the benefit side to all.
2025-11-28 19:29:47 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
I'm quite new to Nostr but man it's exciting. So much to learn 💪 nostr:nevent1qqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgq3qsg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63qxpqqqqqqz8xrdey
2025-11-28 20:13:30 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
We fully agree and we have been building and working hard for the last Year. We present AuthenticDoc.online Digital Signature application that creates verifable, trulv immutable documents locked in forever. Cheaper, Legal and far more secure built on #nostr. In todays world where creating content is so easy with AI this product allows for real authenticity. The digital signature industry is broken, untrustworthy, expensive and definitely not secure. Lets change this. Get access today. It is free www.authenticdoc.online #choosetruth let's build image
2025-11-28 20:17:59 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Yeah - we can find out why Jack banned and shadowbanned literally all of the antivaxx doctors off of Twitter.
2025-11-28 21:47:56 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
protocols, not platforms nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpq35r7yzkm4te5460u00jz4djcw0qa90zku7739qn7wj4ralhe4zqqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcz34fnk
2025-11-28 21:52:58 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Yes, protocols win by disappearing into workflows. Feels like Nostr's "Twitter clone phase" is just onboarding. For comms, I see nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qqstkf79hpnykta7v3223e5cjcxpd0l7365cgfjqypww5qqmcsw8faqx6ravj as a tiny PR rail inside that 50 app stack.
2025-11-28 22:53:37 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
was going to say this. all the apps listed there are apps I tried at some point and that didn't really work. your app works, but when I try to spell Amethyst that part doesn't work.
2025-11-29 06:37:30 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 1 replies ↓ Reply
Dear Sir Jack Dorsey nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpxdmhxue69uhkuamr9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshkz7tkdfkx26tvd4urqctvxa4ryur3wsergut9vsch5dmp8pese6nj96, I Need Borrowing You're Money And I will do whatever I can for you please help me. i beg you I really need borrow you're money sir Jack
2025-11-29 10:53:30 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Dear Sir Jack Dorsey nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpxdmhxue69uhkuamr9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshkz7tkdfkx26tvd4urqctvxa4ryur3wsergut9vsch5dmp8pese6nj96, I Need Borrowing You're Money And I will do whatever I can for you please help me. i beg you I really need borrow you're money sir Jack nostr:nevent1qqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgq3qsg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63qxpqqqqqqz8xrdey
2025-11-29 10:53:48 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Exactly right. I tried to express that sentiment to fiatjaf earlier this year. “Clones” rarely win over the original. But Nostr wins because it is the social / identity / marketplace layer for Bitcoin... and a decentralised communications layer for countless other apps. nostr:note1y3urgt2c4yuwnx2u80my9uuu0x4u9eyhstvycscxn7trgrcnfvtq2arfr3
2025-11-30 10:12:55 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 1 replies ↓ Reply
Not really a pivot, just leaning into the “os” of Nostr… Notes “and Other Stuff” transmitted by relays. Notes is the familiar hook, and decentralized social media is a vital piece of the puzzle. But just being a twitter clone is leaving the bulk of Nostr’s unique superpowers hidden.
2025-11-30 10:42:48 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 1 replies ↓ Reply
It's a massive pivot though. Other stuff was never envisioned as primary. Also what we're looking at now is way beyond even the other stuff part. What we're looking at now is basically an API-substitute. Which is cool. But that's a far cry from a open social media protocol that ensures people can post without worrying about arbitrary moderation policies.
2025-11-30 11:18:03 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
This is the way. I’m on nostr for free speech, publishing, discussing and building infra. From the non dev angle, it’s hard to understand the technical connections yet I’m bullish on owning your own data; btc is the cherry on top. nostr:nevent1qqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgw0zuf6
2025-11-30 15:47:58 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Wow. Thanks for the zap. Feels amazing to be honest. Will add more updates about this software. Feel truly blessed with regards to nostr and its potential. Still learning and staying humble.
2025-11-30 18:13:27 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqyehwumn8ghj7mnhvvh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7ctewe4xcetfd3khsvrpdsmk5vnsw96rydr3v4jrz73hvyu8xqpqsg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q8dzj6n I have an idea, it will be open source, built to use, nostr and bitcoin. I hope its worth your time to review it, and see if it can qualify for a grant, or some sort of support. What would be the best channel to get it in front of you in that capacity?
2025-12-01 04:46:38 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Have you listened to Dr. Robert Epstein (https://americasdigitalshield.com/) lay out the insidious influence Google and Facebook exert on behavior on Rogan and Danny Jones? Listening the other day, I couldn’t help but think of nostr and the potential of distributed consensus networks as the backbone of an antidote. nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduqnxamnwvaz7tmwwa3juurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtmp09mx5mr9d9kx67psv9krw63jwpchgv35w9jkgvt6xasnsucmags4j keeping eyes on the prize again. nostr:nevent1qqsw97qflxpfwr7d0arml30pmjx3amkg4sy3twsv4aauq7wcz4l53tcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgw0zuf6
2025-12-01 20:41:17 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 1 replies ↓ Reply
Τζακ,μαλλον αυριο θα δω παθολογο,κατι νιωθω στο πετο μου,με ενοχλει πολυ.
2025-12-02 15:04:13 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
I guess it will get massive adoption when the underlying technology gets invisible. Nobody wants to configure network connections and sync stuff but everyone want collaborative coding/authoring for codes/docs and cloud shared saves of data. When that becomes as easy as google drive/office integration, nostr has won and Bitcoin with it.
2025-12-03 11:10:35 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Ex-Twitter got so insufferable. It‘s super toxic and I realised it affected me horribly so I finally will try out being on here as I think this is a much nicer app. May I ask respectfully why you sold or why you came back with Nostr/primal? Did you find X so terrible that you just had to come back with social media people could enjoy again? 😃
2025-12-09 12:28:10 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply