This love that people have for cops makes no fucking sense. Cops exist to protect the elite in the government. If you think about it, the constitution says that the people must hold their government accountable, which is why we have the second amendment. There was a founding father quote I heard saying something along the lines of: blood must be shed to keep tyranny away. Too lazy to pull the actual quote but I’m sure you’ve seen it. So right now, what is stopping Americans from hunting down these government pedos and throwing them in jail? It’s the fucking cops and the military. The “servicemen” that we were brainwashed to think are protecting and working for us lmao what a joke. The military protects us by murdering people in the Middle East😂 That’s what they told us after all. And the cops patrol the streets constantly reminding you that they’re around. The world is terrified of this government because of these servicemen. Never accept the excuse of just doing my job.

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Bitcoin cuts the fuel of that aircraft and transform it into Foss fright.
The purpose of the police is to protect the criminals. That's not some off the wall political argument. The purpose is to ensure orderly application or justice right? As in to prevent criminals from getting lynched.
I'm all for the orderly application of justice; but raping prostitutes while protecting "Confidential Informants" from charges is wrong. And that's /before/ politics and politicians get involved
Yes but before that they were slave patrols. They still are - although they are more like debt slave patrols . It’s absolutely psychotic and immoral to earn money to kill another human or lock them in a cage.
I think there's an argument to be made there particularly with certain police forces in the American South, but I'm not sure how that broadly applies across "the police" in general.
"Cops" is doing a lot of work here. From an Ancap perspective, I still think there would be "something" like police to perform a public safety role. But I think this would look much more like private security guards, or even hybrid public/private type "safety patrols" that we have now in certain urban areas funding by BIDs (business improvement districts). But yeah I strain to imagine how something like ICE or anything at the scale of the US military would exist without a strong central government. These entities do nothing that anyone will willingly pay for... They only exist because of Fiat.
Britain didn't have legal chattel-slavery in 1829, not since the early Middle Ages. (Some British colonies certainly re-instituted it quickly enough, though) Guilds "policed" their own members in the cities, when needed, but it usually wasn't, as courts were readily accessible and respected. Private security "thief-takers" also existed, but had no special authority, no monopoly organisation, and were at the mercy of the courts. Villages and clans did any required policing in the countryside.
But yes, "worship of the uniform" is pretty gross. Government workers should be civil servants, not held on some pedestal just because they have a metal star on their chest.
That’s where it started and then normalized before it expanded to other territories and then grew in power and reach
I believe it would all be private. Wanna go shopping at a grocery store? They will have security in the area. Want to feel safe in your home? Neighborhood patrol. Want safe roads? The owner of that highway will take responsibility for it. It’s all motivated by keeping customers happy and safe so that they continue to do business with them. No coercion or violence is needed to extract money from anyone who doesn’t want to be involved.
That’s why I find it strange that Americans still believe living here is their best bet. Other countries don’t have the same resources to surveil and harass you.
Slave patrols originated in 1704 in south Carolina, but we are just debating the actual terminology here. They are the same type of criminal organization by the state - its centralized authority to murder and cage another human being for profit. By that definition nothing has changed. Once you give authority control, they never give it back. Hence ICE, SWAT and modern police corruption- all insane people that justify killing for miney under the guise of protection.
Maybe some sort of decentralized police, but fighting violence with violence is madness, it only causes harm regardless of circumstance. I can’t imagine any form of police reform that would be a net positive for society - maybe robot cops that are designed to deescalate … ? I don’t really like that idea either though. Abolishment of a police state and decentralization of money is probably the only way to end crime.
Unless they're well-connected or "Confidential Informants". Then its the criminal that the police will take up arms to defend.
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Cops put more effort into setting up speed traps than prosecuting pedos. Enough said.
There isn’t a lot of good art that valorizes the police—excepting art with a noir bent, art with moral friction and contradiction, like maybe The French Connection or The Conversation. I’m also a fan of Elmore Leonard.
2nd Ammendement this "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
It's not like people are going to be organized enough for a general strike now a days. Then, who's in charge of asking for our demands, and how did they get chosen? Not everyone's needs will be met, some will still want the same government, etc, etc etc. Good luck overthrowing a government that has guns, tanks, drones, rockets, etc WITHOUT USING VIOLENCE.
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I feel like there is SO much talk lately about violence against our "leaders". Will it continue to be just talk? Will action follow the talk? Will revolution erupt in the US? What would take place in the aftermath/or the healing from a revolution? Hard not to live in the future sometimes 🙃
If you’re talking about freedom for everyone then no. But if you’re talking about freedom for the individual, then i think it’s possible. Even if you overthrow this government, people will want a new government. Then the turnings will repeat. Your freedom will be dependent on the period of time in which you were born, if you only thought you could be free with everyone. But if you thought you could be free as an individual, then it wouldn’t matter what time period you were living in.
I have no idea. I often wonder what would happen if somehow everyone in the country just refused to vote on election. I know it’s impossible but what would happen? Would the candidates just go home? Would they fist fight for the position?
You take a handful of cops and you'll get some good ones, some incompetent ones, some evil ones, and some that are undercover intelligence assets. Probably a lot of them are being blackmailed or pressured in some way. The system of police enforcement is super corrupt. As the enforcement arm of contradictory laws that grow ad infinitum, they basically have free rein to do whatever, and I definitely think that whatever is whatever the highest bidder wants them to do. I think the worst thing about cops is that their existence took away the right of individuals to mediate conflicts by themselves with violence, i.e. duels.
You also only get whatever retarded form of justice the government decides to give. So if someone stole your money and spent it all on hookers and cocaine, he goes to jail and you get to GFY. Some justice.
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Ernst Jürger 20 hours ago
if the laws are bad then its the politicians. But really this is a logical fallacy that there is no nuance to the question
Good cops QUIT ... once they fully realize they signed up to be merely the Wicked Witch's flying monkeys who do her bidding to enforce the stupid laws at any cost.
Imagine a homeless person living in his car. He has no money so he can’t renew his tags. Cop shows up and takes the car. Now the homeless guy is sleeping in a park somewhere. Is the cop serving society and helping or is he stealing wealth property for a paycheck?
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John Satsman 13 hours ago
Them refers to laws. Cops don’t enforce all laws. They can’t. Not only do they not know all the laws(its easier to become a cop than a lawyer) they also have discretion on what to enforce. Don’t ask me how I know.
Even worse than that. A working person gets a traffic ticket. Can’t afford to pay the ticket, car gets impounded. Loses job because they can’t get to work. Warrant issued for not paying the ticket. Goes to jail. Stays in jail because they can’t afford bail.
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John Satsman 11 hours ago
Sounds like you should get out there and over throw a tyrannical government somehow…without violence somehow or something image
My servants disappoint me. The quality of their work is despicable. You are spot on that more people should be thinking of government workers as the servants they signed up to be. A change in perception leads to a change in attitude and behavior, right?
It’s not my responsibility to die for the freedom of others. My responsibility is securing as much freedom as possible for myself. I don’t have to use violence for that.
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John Satsman 11 hours ago
The quote you’re looking for (with out search engining it because I hold it close to my heart) is “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants…” This is an objectively pro violence stance from Thomas Jefferson, one of the most based presidents. image
Weird people are still pro Trump even after all these Epstein files came out. Yeah there’s no way you’ll ever secure collective freedom if people are this retarded.
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John Satsman 11 hours ago
People are arguing with me in another thread that they have to enforce ALL the laws while at the same time saying that the laws are contradictory.
It’s all violence. Humans pretend to be above animals because of their reason and intelligence. But it’s all just power. The weak are dominated but those at the top of the hierarchy.
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John Satsman 11 hours ago
Who cares what weird people are doing or their feelings about the uniparty? Why does it bother you? What are YOU doing about it if it bothers you so much?
Exactly! You're right to dislike the word in the first place, but if they perpetrate such charades, might as well hold the feet to the fire till they come clean.
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John Satsman 11 hours ago
But you do because you made a distinction between humans and animals without saying “other animals” which gave you away. image
...and it is not a moral failing or crime to be one of the people riding the hamster wheel who will never see themselves as slaves or realize they can be free if they think about it. We are not any better than they are. We can only continue to spread the message and hope they come around to their own awakening and in their own way. Everyone is on different paths, and all of us who realized we are free all came to that conclusion in different ways.
That’s correct. When people say bitcoin is freedom, it’s only freedom for the ones that understand this. A lot of these bitcoin influencers are anything but free.
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John Satsman 7 hours ago
I didn’t say I liked cops. My entire point this time is that cops get to enforce whatever they want and that saying they “have to” do anything is a strawman. I’m not delulu, you are.