I closed my bank account yesterday. I am now 100% paying for my life in Bitcoin. Nervous, excited, and relieved. #bitcoinstandard

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🔥🔥🔥 Whats the setup? Lightning, onchain, hardware wallets etc?
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Kingbee 10 months ago
Wow. Coconuts. Conviction. I love it.
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Kingbee 10 months ago
I wish I had more non-kyc. Much to learn.
Legend! Can't wait to follow your lead
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I closed my bank account yesterday. I am now 100% paying for my life in Bitcoin. Nervous, excited, and relieved. #bitcoinstandard
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SecondBreakfast 10 months ago
What do you use for spending at vendors? I've been looking at moonpay and just curious of other options. Preferably with no kyc
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Aeneas 10 months ago
Do you know that using strike pay and custodial wallets isn't living in a bitcoin standard doesn't you? 👀
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npub1r52w...euf3 10 months ago
Bitcoin is not sustainable Bitcoin cannot scale to the population Monero can
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B-rad 10 months ago
A legend was born today Congrats!
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Toxicota 10 months ago
If you still have some fiat, open a river account and have them pay u 3.9% interest they pay it in btc 🐸 not technically a bank account, just a free sats machine 😏
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zoé 10 months ago
lmao meant to post with this account and in the bank 😂
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R 10 months ago
You know you’re not the king who gets to make the rules of bitcoin living and declare others unworthy don’t you?
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R 10 months ago
Nice!
The cc gets paid with strike bill pay, which acts as a bank providing the acct and routing in order to pay the cc off using btc held in strike. Its not the ideal btc standard, it is kyc, there is counterparts risk. But it is near impossible to spend btc when Noone takes it for payment here. And I'm not waiting for the world to adopt it. So we meet half way until I can and I use centralized services as a stepping stone.
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nobody 10 months ago
I don’t understand why I’d pay for my life using a harder currency. It seems to make sense to me that I should use USD anytime someone will take it. It’s worth nothing and loses value daily. Why convert it to Bitcoin just to pay out in USD? It only kind of makes sense if you’re selling goods and services for Bitcoin.
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Tomson 10 months ago
For me, the biggest problem with #Bitcoin as money was not its volatility, but the concept that money had to be “bad” (according to Gresham’s Law) in order to be easily spent in exchange for goods and services. However, after a long time, I realized that my perception was wrong. Using #Bitcoin exclusively as money means completely improving my economic environment, as it forces me to reflect on the quality and necessity of the goods and services I am willing to pay for. This is because the money (Bitcoin) I give in exchange has great value, both in the present and potentially in the future.
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Fulmo ⚡ 10 months ago
Could you run us through a typical day/month/year of spending? How do you pay for groceries? How do you pay rent? How do you pay for flights? And so on... Genuinely curious. Need to use more Bitcoin in daily life, hoping for some inspiration. 🧠
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Aeneas 10 months ago
If the whitepaper says that bitcoin is for P2P transactions without the need of a financial institution to make it, living in a bitcoin standard is only buying products directly in bitcoin without the need of the third party to make my transactions. If you need it you are not in a bitcoin standard, but in the same old financial system that the only difference that has is that instead the number of what you see in the bank being $/€ is btc 👀 PS: I don't make the rules. image
Nice job! I still have my local bank account, but mainly for a few checks I have to write each month as well as a way to deposit checks to then move into bitcoin. Otherwise, I am mostly on a bitcoin standard now, and I love it! I've noticed a little less impulsive spending, because I say to myself, "Is it really worth losing some bitcoin for this new thing?". It also takes away some of the stress, and gives me a legitimate emergency fund through Strike.
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Aeneas 10 months ago
Neither you hold the "bitcoin" you have in Strike. I understand what you say, but using Strike is the same of using a bank, and to live in a bitcoin standard is to live without the necessity of any financial institution to do your transactions, so paying things with Strike pay is the same as paying it with credit in a average bank. At the advisory level, I honestly have none, as Bitcoin has been hijacked in such a way that the system have allowed to created mini Bitcoin-only banks, and people use the services thinking they are living in a Bitcoin standard, when in reality they are using the same kind of service that Bitcoin was created to combat. When traditional banks buy Bitcoin ETFs and give people the option to denominate what they have in BTC at the bank and use credit cards directly linked to that BTC, are they really living in a Bitcoin standard? Anyway, what a clown world Bitcoin has become... It's because of things like this that I use Monero.
The short and sweet is, more exposure to bitcoin makes sense to me in an up market. Time in bitcoin beats timing bitcoin. If you dont use bitcoin as a currency and accept it as property you have failed. Property gets taxed and currency gets used as a medium of exchange. This whole experiment fails if we don't transact in bitcoin.
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Bitcoiner Post 10 months ago
This is the sign of a true to the max Maxi. Well done!
You can also look into @Bitcoin Well. It also has Direct Deposit with slider ratio, but the BTC goes to your self custody wallet. To make payments, you send BTC to an address dedicated to each payee. There is no ACH option, which can be an issue for certain mortgage and loan payments.
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R 10 months ago
It’s almost like you never read the many posts of Satoshi, Hal, and the others of how it all plays out. Nowhere in the white paper is it discussed what the final definition of “I’m living on a Bitcoin standard”means. Someone wants to celebrate getting rid of their traditional bank account, hold bitcoin instead of dollars, and you want to pop in their note and poop on their celebration by letting them know they just might not be pure enough for you to celebrate with them. Have whatever reply guy response you want, I’m celebrating with them.
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Rob 10 months ago
well done Sergio!
Nice. Could you explain further what you are referring to with the Strike part? Can't exactly put together what you are saying with the established credit line and Strike/cash app. Was that referring to using Bitrefill?
Separate uses. Strike as an exchange has Cross River Bank as a partner where you can direct deposit into steike acting as a bank account. Under setting in Strike , if you go to Bill Pay you will be provided with the account and routing info that you can use to pay off your credit cards. In effect, Strike is now your bank account, allowing you to deposit bitcoin and pay your credit cards off with said bitcoin. You also have the option of adjusting what percentage of the direct deposit you would like in Bitcoin and Fiat. A tool that will come in handy when we see the bear market.
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nobody 10 months ago
Couldn’t agree more. I use Bitcoin whenever I can, but if someone’s willing to use a trash currency like USD then I’m happy to pay them in it. Until there is a more circular economy with Bitcoin then it’s better seen, at least to me, as a store of value. But I love what you’re doing for principles sake.
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nobody 10 months ago
Yes, if I was giving someone Bitcoin, not converting it to USD to pay rent like OP, I agree. I will gladly pay someone accepting Bitcoin and even seek them out. But if my landlord wants a rapidly more worthless currency like USD he can have it long before I convert it to Bitcoin.
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Norm E. 10 months ago
Congrats, friend. Let us know how it goes. I'm working my way there. I feel like I first need a 6 month emergency fund runway (in bitcoin) before my wife will feel comfortable #gettingonzero fiat.
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Aeneas 10 months ago
I don't said i live on a Monero standard, we are not yet ready to live neither in a world of bitcoin standard or monero standard, for that we need to push to have more businesses accept the coins directly and have a proper circular economy. My standard is cash for what i can't buy with monero and everything i can buy with monero i use it. But yeah buying gift cards for some services is the only option, the thing that i clearly think is nonsense and i refuse to use is banking services that are wolves at a sheeps skin. They are building the systems that will makes us trapped, and more vulnerable to state agents, system and censorship that all of us oppose. You are seeing now coinbase for exemple applying a social credit to Bitcoin L1, sooner or later you will see fractional reserve banking with Bitcoin and ecash is the most probable tool they will use for sure for that. They are testing it in Central banks (words from an interview of calle). PS: Take time to read Bitcoin Hijacked of Roger Ver if you want to see the other side, don't just eat Bitcoin propaganda. (The system is really good at selling ideas that go against the public interest like is shinny gold, and many of influencers even here are on some big names payroll)
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Aeneas 10 months ago
It clearly says that the coin is made to people not use financial institutions to make payments P2P. Its because of reading the emails and posts of satoshi that i clearly know that bitcoin was hijacked. Where is the block size increase to support scaling that satoshi propose? Where is the privacy protocols implemented that satoshi talked? Im not here to poop the celebration of one getting rid of FIAT, im here to remember what is the pourpose of the coin, and to at least try to open the eyes of good people that falled in propaganda from guys that are working for the system, and they are doing it very well as i see. Go read again satoshi pappers, maybe you didn't understand what you read, or didnt read at all.
I get what you are saying. But even cash is a federal issued debt note printed by banks. This transition may come to fruition at the tail end of our lives, hopefully sooner. Far fewer people use Monero than bitcoin at the moment. And if a merchant accepted monero I'd use it for goods and services as well. I recently got the monero standard to read. But you have to be pragmatic, don't cut your nose off to spite the banks. I believe we can take steps toward the real bitcoin (or monero standard.) And I agree, the banks and institutions are in the process of attempting to box bitcoin into their framework of control. I don't think countries should be buying it. That's going just going to allow them to do what they have already been doing at a larger scale. What would be the equivalent of lightning in monero? Because the tps for its base layer is slow 🐌. Merchants need more speed; which is what lightning offers on bitcoin.
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Aeneas 10 months ago
I know it is, but cash if not deposit and used hands by hands takes power from the system, and if we need to use FIAT why don't use that FIAT in cash, to not talk that cash doesn't pays fees to banks to move, cards and credit pays, so with a 50 bank note you do endless transactions, with the same 50 on cards in +- 100 transactions all 50 is from the bank now. Far people use Monero? 👀 Maybe you are not aware but Monero is the number 1 Crypto used to do P2P payments and transactions by far. I have doubts that you find 1 store that accepts both Bitcoin and Monero that Bitcoin + Lightning is more used than Monero. In my point of view that is what will happens with Bitcoin, banks and states have something in the hand to control bitcoin, and bitcoin doesnt have the tools to be censorship resistant because core devs and big names from the community doesn't want it. (Who knows why). Mining the way it is build today is a law away from only allow some certain transactions to go through. P2pool on bitcoin was abandon 12 years ago, and if you ask any big name about that, they run from the question. (Who knows why) FCMP++ is on roadmap for this year, that will do essential 2 things, the first is update the anonimity set from the ring sign from 16 signatures to 100M upgrading the anonimity set and second will allow L2's on Monero. We are going in the rigth direction, thats why some countries are banning and exchanges delisting, because they know Monero power and that they can't stop it or control it. You can buy here with monero:
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Toxicota 10 months ago
Ooooooor 3.9% gay! while stacking sats. And ovious the recommendation is NOT to, but if you “have” to, while the rest of the world catches up and stop being retarded. Its an option.
I've been getting direct deposits through cash app 100% in BTC and selling whenever I pay bills, I've gotta get on the strike train. And shout-out to Bitcoin we'll, they can send your dd to sparrow wallet.
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nobody 10 months ago
I haven’t looked too deep into it, but I’m assuming the only pitfall would be the headache of tax implications when converting bitcoin to USD to pay bills
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npub1ah3a...l76e 10 months ago
You ask your landlord? You ask each and every one that you have a business relation with. It's not that hard. It just takes time.
Funny thing is that I've been trying to work out how to do the same and that question brought me to these videos aswell
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Norm E. 10 months ago
Thanks, Marc. Are you saying basically assume your Bitcoin emergency fund will last half as long as you think it will due to the possibility of bearish price action?
I wouldn't say "assume," but I am prepared for a 50% drawdown at all times. It's not that I'm bearish, I've just seen it "crash" too many times to not prepare for this. If it doesn't...Awesome! If it does, It will go back up, but I still have bills to pay.
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Ares 9 months ago
Hey gang. I see a lot of you asking questions about how our good Doctor Sergio is making this work. I thought I would offer these 3 links that explain it in detail and will help you get started.