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99.9% of people here can't go all January without using the word bitcoin or referring to it metaphorically. And that would be a great start, but we also need feature for nostr that don't center around bitcoin. Fat chance I that happening.
No but everyone on Nostr is my family. The take posted in the screenshot by Gigi is the mental attitude of a 6 year old child, extreme low IQ take or extrem high emotional take because of vested interests in what they believe to be a competitor to Bitcoin (there is none). Nostr doesn't need you but you need Nostr, what applies to Bitcoin applies mostly to Nostr as it is the social protocol on top of it. "I'm not going to use Email because Tomlinson just wrote some mundane stuff in his first ones rererere "
Hard time taking in most of that but mainly "Nostr doesn't need you but you need nostr" Pretty sure nostr is just code sitting without humans using it as humans make all the things they interact with, actually work as intended. A faucet, without a human letting water flow through it is just a pile of metal and plastic. Only has use and meaning because we as humans give it to the objective when interacting with it. Would be interesting to see what nostr would be without all of us....
I can’t even imagine the stench of smtp associated with all of life’s shit 😆 👃🏼 💩
No, you took this far out of how I mean it. It does not need YOU specifically, if all you do is complain about it's content. There are people who need it and want it. So there are two simple solutions i propose: - adopt a mindset with a little less ego and start asking why do people post so much on Bitcoin here. Maybe even propose the Idea to your mind that there might be something to learn. Something or some angle to view it that you have not seen yet. - post content which is not about Bitcoin, if it is valid content I will drop a like, 80% of the posts I like are not about Bitcoin When I wrote YOU above I don't mean you Nostronaut but a generaliziation of the critic mentioned in the screenshot. Complaining, crying is easy, creating and changing is hard.
Nostr is easier to find than Bitcoin Twitter. Soon enough they will come because of Bitcoin & not despite it being here. In 4 years time we'll be here helping people sell their ETF shares to acquire & custody actual UTxOs. These HNW people will sell items of value for sats on the Nostr marketplace. Controllable UTxOs will fetch a premium on ETF derived prices. It's going to be wild!
Nostr 100% does not need me. This is proven fact. Tbh, I have no clue why or how I even have followers here.... I just be noting and zapping. 🤷 Solution 1 is a daily thing for me. Always learning and ask why to everything. Ego? More just curious about the world and I need to use ? more at the end of sentences. Any form of communication is not my strength. I definitely do solution 2 and post non bitcoin content. Complaining, crying, and playing the victim roll will always be the easy paths but I see this person as correct and of free will to make what ever choices they want. As a half breed, bit-normie, Nostr is labeled as "the bitcoin zone". Its like an episode of the twilight zone, but about a new currency called bitcoin and the evil government, for regular folks when they join... So from their shoes, i can see why they don't want what they build, to be attached to that kind of energy.
Yeah I can get behind that point of view, but let me assure you the third or fourth post of the person complaining about bitcoin will be a post about shitcoins, I've seen this before and I actually tried to post less about it for this exact reason you mentioned but in reality they just want you to bend the knee 9/10 times and that's why I tell them to kindly go fuck themselfs
Pretty normal that in this early stage of Nostr we don't have many "Cooking with grandma" content or whatever those punks are looking for instead. The people that are on here understand why they're here and why it does relate to bitcoin. They're both top tier freedom technologies so ofcourse they complement each other, but those shit for brains don't get it yet and would rather get their fill by an algorithmic feeding system.
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frphank 2 years ago
For a good time call 555-425-3948!
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Lol, God forbid having any association with Bitcoin! I'm almost glad these people self-select away from the platform entirely. They can just, idk, build their own closed community though, idiots.
When everything you are used to is broken, then what works feels incompatible with your existence.
Topic specific relays can solve this. People should have option to follow only what they choose to see.
if nostr isn't about talking about whatever you want, then i must have missed the point even if that somehow happened that i didn't think about how i save my money, i'm sure some whiny bitch would complain about carnivore diet, conspiracy theories, toxic masculinity, potty mouth, christianity, new agers, have i missed anyone?
True, the place is infested with cultists and became a little thematic circlejerk club, you guys stink. Oh the irony of posting this from from this account, a story of my life. View quoted note →
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RUN BIYING 2 years ago
More and better contents besides the bitcoin topic are in need. The feature of inclusiveness hasn’t been well presented yet.
Yea there’s no v4v layer 2 instant reward for proof of work here… nothing to do with bitcoin lol
topic specific relays might be a solution than again, I am here for the #Bitcoin content not interested in fiat centralized shit
I've said it before, and I'll say it again--some people will learn the hard way to value their freedom. No sympathy for the willfully ignorant and arrogant at all I do think there should be topic-specific relays, though
yeah, this kind of factional nonsense is a recurring cycle in the lifetimes of protocols and platforms think of all the fights that go on between microsoft and apple fans since the beginning lol almost certainly there will be a shitcoiner "fork" of nostr but probably the gulf will not be very wide technically, just some small things that keep the networks apart i'm a bitcoin is money guy but i also know distributed systems theory and there is a place for pBFT in the nostr back end stack and that's what shitcoin nostr is probably gonna look like (in fact i'm probably building some part of it lol)
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RUN BIYING 2 years ago
Well, you can not represent others, shit or not depends on people’s personal preferences. Has anyone ever said Nostr only for bitcoin? Would you feel good when people say your Bitcoin content is shit?
people can say whatever they want about any kind of content. It is their right to consume and create the content they wish. Nostr is not for Bitcoin only, and I truly hope that one day it will attract a wider audience and become wildly adopted by everyone, but there is no denying that the #Bitcoin community embraced #nostr very early on and has done a lot for it.
could have easily just said that he's ghey, no need to be so salty about it 😆
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RUN BIYING 2 years ago
No one denied anything, the whole conversation started with some other contents that beyond bitcoin topic are in need so that more could join here.
Agreed! I think that the zap feature is very appealing to bitcoiners, hence their activity on the platform We do not just need diverse content pn #nostr but we also need features that appeal to a winder audience
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Knightstr 2 years ago
I doubt that’s even a genuine opinion. Reeks of astroturfing
It's not even a bitcoin thing, it's a maxi-thing. Sure, there are level headed and open minded individuals here, but the maxis are so fucking prominent and arrogant.. they're the ones that stink, only really appealing to like-minded people. Bitcoin is a surveillance coin, not that any maxi would ever acknowledge all the problems this causes, such as front-running and discrimination. Personally, I did once consider developing on nostr but, yes, this maxi thing "bitcoin is not crypto" shit is just so off-putting. At the moment, all I see is one big echo chamber. If you were all talking about cars, cats or cathedrals instead, that too would be just as unattractive. Want to prove me wrong? Then integrate a coin agnostic system. Let's see Lightning decred, or truly fungible options such as beam or grin. Now watch the maxi replies that prove this point of how fucking obnoxious they can be.
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ARVIN 2 years ago
#Bitcoin > “Crypto” & #Bitcoin > “Blockchain”
If it really bothers you, leave— nobody is going to change for you here, it’s a free space for people to do and say whatever they want. If you can get past that, you also can do your own thing here. Nobody can stop you from integrating decred or grin or shib. And they can’t stop you from muting obnoxious people (and at least there’s not an algorithm shoving similarly irritating info your way) 🤙
blockchain is a technique invented in the early days of distributed systems research for making a tamper resistant chain of database update bundles practical Byzantine Fault Tolerance (pBFT) is a technique that uses a 2/3 quorum and a block derived random number to select the leader in a distributed database cluster that can tolerate 1/3rd malicious nodes the Nakamoto consensus is a technique that Satoshi discovered that enabled the lowering of this threshold from 1/3 malicious nodes down to 1/2 malicious nodes, by using a partial hash collision search most shitcoins, except for monero and a few other holdouts, use a variant of pBFT that fallaciously adds "stake" as a "mechanism for security" when in fact it's only a way to limit the number of "authoritative replicas" in a pBFT - because by the cost of messages across the network, as the Cosmos project determined pretty definitively, no more than 100 can participate in such a procedure without dramatically reducing the latency of the system and causing updates to take more than 3 seconds to absorb a new block stake is not a security mechanism, it's a concurrency mutual exclusion lock for 20-100 nodes to get the role of authoritative replica bitcoin solves this problem but can't do better than 1mb/10 minutes and the simple fact is that this means that only one blockchain can be secure with more than 100 nodes in the consensus UTXOs are pseudonymous, the location of the key holder is not revealed by the spender, and anonymity is an absolute, not an achievable, mathematically possible outcome, without weakening some other aspect of the system in general this trade off eliminates the auditability of supply, and no matter what you monero fucks say, your coin does not guarantee supply, there has been multiple inflation bugs and you assholes think that doesn't matter it does. it matters a lot, because the security of a money depends on its hardness, and without hardness, it doesn't matter how private it is, it's scrip.
Imagine having the balls to call someone arrogant then going on about how you’re entitled to have someone else build you a “coin agnostic” shitcoin casino for free. Either go capture some code slaves, throw down serious dough to get it done, get off your ass and do it yourself or shut the fuck up. We owe you nothing and you’re lucky you don’t get your ass kicked when you come to our events.
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BzzT! 2 years ago
Imagine the stench on that 🤣 Take a big whiff
"in general this trade off eliminates the auditability of supply, and no matter what you monero fucks say, your coin does not guarantee supply, there has been multiple inflation bugs and you assholes think that doesn't matter" I can give you that as long as you can acknowledge that a *public* ledger will never have real privacy (transactions and values aren't hidden) and have a weaker form of anonymity (psuedonymity) than monero. You'll never do that though because you think trade offs only exist for Monero. There have also been inflation bugs in Bitcoins past. Even one that would've been undetectable by node runners that was prevented by a single honest anon. bitcoincore.org/en/2018/09/20/notice
THIS!!! Speaking as a woman… “Bro-culture” is a LOT to get past. Went to Primal & saw … “Hey Nostr Bros…” & immediately felt in my tummy a sickness that turned me away. Still, I believe in goodness of humanity & will do all I can to bring more love ❤️ 💜🙏 image
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jack j4ck.xyz 2 years ago
I agree with the ppl who say that tbh. Not interested in bitcoin, almost completely puts me off Nostr seeing it. Although I love how this all works :/
I got a ton of flak on 𝕏 for talking about Bitcoin. More recently, the negative comments have gone down significantly, so I think some progress is being made 👍
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Badman 1 year ago
It's all crypto "currency" and it's all shit.