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Replacing tg was the first challenge when nostr was made. 3 years later we're pretty close ๐ฅ
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I honestly think
@JeffG Telegram alternative is going to quickly become the worlds most used nostr client. There's a billion tg users happy to jump ship, particularly if someone can make a bridge for transitioning groups, and a bot father alternative.

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I stated coding one, but
@reya's coop made me stop. Now with
@JeffG project, we should be well served.
Which NIP is he using for this?
MLS is a very clever solution to both groups and DMs.
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The app just loads for me when I try to build? What am I doing wrong?
Is it publicly available? how can i access it?
Please ๐
It's not finished yet ๐
Oh ๐
how are they planning to adapt the business model of telegram?
Yup, followed instructions in the readme
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sounds good. I'd jump ship too.
I didn't know about such a client. I have to try it!
how would that be better than keet?
Whatโs it called and where can I find it?
Keet is still closed source isnโt it?
Soon!
How is this app called? Would like to check it out!
I hope WoT and not allowing impersonate others with bio or username will fix all the scammers DMing people on TG. LFG!
How do I download this?
where can I try it?
I like the idea that this could be a great option for our family and circle of friends. Getting them into Nostr would be amazing.
Shit Iโm becoming a maximalist.
Yes.
how's that better than the p2p app keet?
Keet isnโt open source. It also is a separate network, so everyone has to create new accounts, find their friends, etc.
Nostrโs benefit is the network and the fact that itโs open.
Now if we can only get a non-hipsterlang version of this.
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SimplexChat , Status , Keet - not using Nostr protocol
Nostrchat.io , Keychat.io , 0xchat.com and now this JeffG thingy messenger - using Nostr protocol.
Awesome !
Why doesnโt
@0xchat have a lot of users? It already has this functionality plus a built in ecash wallet and nostr following feed.
Didnโt know this was a good hung. Will follow and take a look. Excited to see NOSTR messaging apps coming up.
The name reminds me of Erithreriueum.
I downloaded to phone. But havenโt tested. Wasnโt ๐ฏ on how it works. The way it has been marketed hasnโt been clear.
Is it also a desktop client?
idk, answering from 0xchat, but it took me some time, bcs normally I saw you in my Damus feed, but in 0xchat I needed to add you to my contact list, but as I said before, this app looks sick ๐ฅน When I downloaded it first time I thought that is app only for messages, but it seems like fine client, hope that one they it will be maybe fast like Damus.
Maybe thatโs why, it need to be more stable ๐ซก
I don't know tbh. It's a bit odd that it doesn't.
It sucks on my phone. Like, surprisingly awful on a phone with top end hardware.
Are you using the latest v1.3.3?
Iโm using the latest version on a Pixel 6 and it works fine
Yes.
Just reinstalled it. Slow. Clunky.
I get it is initializing, but... Other clients don't take this long to populate something.
I can post from it, but cannot see anything from it. At all.
No clue how this ended up here. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
My guess, no public dev to put a face to, so lack of trust.
Which is good. But who are the devs? ๐ฅท
The most popular clients have public devs who build relationships (and therefore trust) with their users.
Skin in the game.
Dang 0xchat is dope! It feels like Nostr has rebuilt the entire stack of social media apps in less than 2 years, but in a completely interconnected way.
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What would be the difference between something like this, and Keet (
https://keet.io)? They are both transmitted by relays right?
Which phone are you using?
Doesn't nostr leak metadata?
Currently a OnePlus 12.
It's working now, but... It only started working after I logged out. So... WTF? But it's still... Awkward? Not doing things as I'd expect?
Try closing the app and restarting it?
I've restarted my phone several times for other things. So yes, I've done that.
Kick. Ass.
whoa... when is this launching?
Hopefully soon. Iโm working on it now.
Pls lmk if you'd like any alpha/beta testers ๐
Nip-04 DMs (which sadly are still the most used across the major clients) do. But the newer NIP-17 donโt. And my new proposal (what Iโm hoping becomes the default) doesnโt leak any data and provided great forward secrecy and post compromise security.
I donโt think keet uses relays. They use their own architecture called holepunch.
The future is bright ๐
I hope itโs called JeffGโs Telegram ๐
๐๐ weโre so good at naming things in nostr.
Wow that sounds so cool! Where can we get our hands on that client?
Should have an alpha version ready in a few weeks.
This is a perfect nostr use case.. you the man
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Which app is that sorry? Very keen to trial it asap
Letโs see how it turns out before passing judgement ๐
ima download this so hard
Creating bots on nostr isn't as easy as botfather. Also I think UI similarity is key. Also telegram runs on web, desktop and mobile. 0xchat is only on mobile to my knowledge.
Is this using MLS?
Great stuff. Looking forward to try it out.
Please let us know! Just followed you!
I don't understand the technical details so sorry if this is a dumb question: if all the data for this is transmitted via relays, how does it allow for privacy?
I believe so per one of his most recent posts.
Every note can be encrypted. Our apps just haven't used this ability yet, but some are in the works.
Yes, it means dropping a big chunk of gobbledygook on your feed but clients can be told not to display notes that start with an encryption string.
Looking very much forward to it, sir.
But the world's most popular clients will be a version of email, so whomever copies Gmail the closest in UX should win that race.
Go tell it to the confession room how can I be so mean when someone wanted to off themselves because of you and me like you @jack
This is o t gas lighting because of you someone wanted to off themselves of your actions and your thoughts of putting a person in situation they are not supposed to be in
@jack
@JeffG knows how to partyyyy so that makes total sense to me... ๐๐ป
And sometimes these things are projected to people by means of song , like you think youโre just saying a song but youโre projecting it and just overall being a horrible person
Same here
Not only your actions of the demon that youโre the cult that youโre in want to hurt people. You yourself pushed people to appoint that they wanted to hurt themselves. @jack
Which client is this?
It's in the works apparently. I'm looking forward to it.
Youโre like the devil who tested Jesus Christ messing with people, she wants to start nonprofit you mess with her. She wants to start her business you mess with her then you mess with her stealing all her funds, belittling her attacking self-esteem to a point of pushing people to the edge. You wonder why Iโm being mean to you , you mess with her housing with her family
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Well, youโre doing all the things that she wants to do to make yourself like youโre some kind of saint youโre horrible human being Jack
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I still believe that forking Telegram's original clients is the best approach. The polished micro-interactions in the UI would take a significant amount of time to replicate.
Where do I find that client?
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thanks for explaining!
Excited to try out first client when it's out,
@JeffG is a great dev.
Wait, what is this sorcery. I haven't seen yet but would love to try
looks sexy
Who is funding his work?
I'm on an open sats grant and also just got some support from HRF.
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