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If you take your phone between even just your home and work —doxxed locations— it is trivial to associate it with your true-name identity even if all of the hardware and services are perfectly anonymous. Even journalists have managed these kind of investigations. "Anonymized" location data is unfortunely not anonymous — it *can never* be anonymous. And yet it is sold like any other product.
Your phone's movements through physical space are unique. Even if you live in a building of 400 people, the movements of 399 of them are not going to match the tower records of your phone's movements. Even if you work in the same office. People's geographic movements are unique—and identifying.
Parenting.
Yea I can buy Reynolds tinfoil or Deadpool guy's tinfoil but what will keep safe? Wrap my phone in tinfoil? I'm so tracked they will follow me to and from my home and work to the store for the machine or they'll harass and stalk the driver who delivered the package l, etc
For now, that requires the person in question to be a target. It's not yet in the realm of mass data.
I hear ya it's just non stop with them. It's enough level. And every time I attend these meetings I'm always surrounded by cops. And this time it's worse.
So in even simpler English wearing a mask provides some identity protection? Or just more health dept pushing people to wear masks? Last night they were talking on the TVs about health insurance expiring and that's why the cops are surroundings me again. What they mean is whoever was paying for the protection let it expire or cancelled it
What is the inherent problem with "android" that Graphene doesn't solve? (Which you seem to be alluding to)
Masks give me migraines. So I don't like to wear them but know the importance of privacy of wearing them
I didn't buy a pixel because I wanted a pixel, I bought a pixel because I wanted GrapheneOS
No
Yeah nothing we can do about that unfortunately
You instill paranoia to no effect
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Edward Snowden
People really don't realize how utterly dependent modern surveillance is on the idea that everybody is carrying a phone — which is always tracked. Their car has a cellular modem in it — which is always tracked. 99% of investigation is one guy and a search box. If you're not low-hanging fruit, you aren't gonna merit the Eye of Sauron of manual, well-resourced, focused team attention—and if you did, you probably planned ahead for it, right? Because it's not a mystery what would get you on Santa's Naughty List.
Anyway, the point is that even in a big city, the phoneless guy in a "covid" mask is going to be invisible to anything less than that exhaustive manual investigation — at least for a few more years. That may go away once they start networking all the cameras and having AI start trying to match up clothing sets moving from camera to camera, butthat capability is hard to hide, so it'll be in the news. And it won't work that well in places with less camera density and, perhaps, for people who wear the most-common outfits (the visual equivalent of a "shared fingerprint").
Remember: Phones are useful, but dangerous. And the people who will still wear covid masks to the beach are helping to normalize facial obscurity—regardless of their intention. Don't be mean to them. Encourage them to wear them everywhere. For passport photos. In police booking photos. At the customs desk. Family portraits! The sky is the limit—let them push the boundaries so that you don't have to.
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If you're going to keep airplane mode on 100% of the time, why would you have a device with a cellular modem? If you're going to turn airplane mode off, your backdoor is open. It's just a thing we have to accept for now if we want to have phones.
Someday we'll have better hardware.
My phone is a made of a Chinese sweat so is OK no worry
You've got to be very careful of leaks.
They is a leak when made this quality ones like mission darkenesse?
#Bitcoin and #nostr will find a way around this? I’ve heard about using radio frequencies to talk and transmit data. Encryption would be required but it should be possible to send bitcoin and communicate with each other in the future, without others tracking you and listening in.
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Welcome back sir, good point on masks. Thoughts on grapheneOS?
Yes
I run graphene and I could care less about the pixel's stock features. I own a pixel solely because it supports GrapheneOS. If the only GrapheneOS-supported device were a BlackBerry, then i'd be rockin a BlackBerry.
are there apps that can block gps??
I tried saying, and repeating 20 years ago to anybody who would listen. The government should be banned from leveraging computers in ANY way to tally, track or process any data about US citizens. Including the IRS, DMV, as the lowest level.
There will never be an exit from this.
Would the government ban itself from this? You can't solve the problems caused by the state through the state.
Especially bitcoin ATMs...
So I need more than one phone? lol 🤣
This is what Zuri would use. #CODEDSHADOWS www.codedshadows.com
(Thanks to Spinnekop in South Africa 😎🤙⚡️🔥)
Theoretically, there is a Congress, which represents the best interests of the citizens who elect them.
Of course, most here know that's a fairytale. Nullified in the early 1900s
# Yes and, i agree/disagree, the #intelligenceServices have a **different remit** and they get suspicious with anyone they can't follow ( and anything encrypted/labeled 'top secret'/classified) because they're worried about spies and because that is their craft and what they rely on -- not being followed.
Take some-things and leave somethings when it comes to 'experts'. Sometimes, actually often, they give advice but **leave out essentials** as secrets. Not mentioning **physical access** when dealing with #privacy and #security experts is a clue they are not entirely sincere and their allegiance is to #lawEnforcement and not freedom.
***"If you're not low-hanging fruit, you aren't gonna merit the Eye of Sauron of manual, well-resourced, focused team attention—and if you did, you probably planned ahead for it, right? Because it's not a mystery what would get you on Santa's Naughty List.
Anyway, the point is that even in a big city, the phoneless guy in a "covid" mask is going to be invisible to anything less than that exhaustive manual investigation"*** ~Snowden
I still don't know why i'm on 'Santa's Naughty List' and tbh i don't care anymore.
Edward Snowden
People really don't realize how utterly dependent modern surveillance is on the idea that everybody is carrying a phone — which is always tracked. Their car has a cellular modem in it — which is always tracked. 99% of investigation is one guy and a search box. If you're not low-hanging fruit, you aren't gonna merit the Eye of Sauron of manual, well-resourced, focused team attention—and if you did, you probably planned ahead for it, right? Because it's not a mystery what would get you on Santa's Naughty List.
Anyway, the point is that even in a big city, the phoneless guy in a "covid" mask is going to be invisible to anything less than that exhaustive manual investigation — at least for a few more years. That may go away once they start networking all the cameras and having AI start trying to match up clothing sets moving from camera to camera, butthat capability is hard to hide, so it'll be in the news. And it won't work that well in places with less camera density and, perhaps, for people who wear the most-common outfits (the visual equivalent of a "shared fingerprint").
Remember: Phones are useful, but dangerous. And the people who will still wear covid masks to the beach are helping to normalize facial obscurity—regardless of their intention. Don't be mean to them. Encourage them to wear them everywhere. For passport photos. In police booking photos. At the customs desk. Family portraits! The sky is the limit—let them push the boundaries so that you don't have to.
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Shheeesh. I’m going back to the way it was;
What are your thoughts on the unplugged phone?
Maybe it works in my favor that I've never had an android before (iPhone since 2008) and I don't know what I'm missing. The experience has been very positive, having no other point of reference.
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k so when i go to town i need a wheelchair, a fat suit and a mask. . . I may just turn hermit.
And if i do not use cellular towers, just open WLAN Networks?
I use Graphene OS
Fool them by leaving home with YouTube on autoplay at home. Create rabbit trails. Be unpredictable. Learn to hunt deer, then learn how deer can turn badasses into hungry fools. You said it earlier - just knowing how you're being imaged can help either maintain it or work outside it.
I use both for different controls. Night time and sunset I use the google pixel camera app.
Google Services are sandboxed by default in GrapheneOS.
no. Graphene does all the hard work and setup for you.
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What can you do though? No phone!
so you don't install any google apps?
No, not unless I can help it .
The shitty part is that you need Google to get notifications. How retarded.
Add to the towers triangulating data, there's a gyroscope(position of the phone), accelerometer, barometer(sensor of pressure = your altitude), wifi AP's signals triangulation which greatly enchances your location data.
You can literally be seen walking up/down the stairs.
Every single step.
More. Scrolling through your FB feed tour camera tracking your eyes movement can basicaly think what exactly you're looking at/reading/skipping.
Analyzing your patterns and comparing them to some control/average interactions with the help of AI you can basically be read throughout.
Stay safe.
You can install the sandbox play on Graphene
What are your thought about Graphene OS?
But even an old nokia would dox you in that sense, so the solution would be no phone at all or other system than antennas. Prople will not give up their phones, so the antenna infra may be where we should focus on.
none of this should be a problem except .....
like everything else somebody has to weaponise it.
we can only hope that sanity will return one day
thank you for all you have done and continue to do.
GM 🙃
What if there is only one cellular tower?
Phones ar just the tip of the iceberg, any $martgadget Shit, IoT telemetry, computer telemetry goes on & on.
(windows, macOS , ubuntu & Apps)
Ah yes, welcome to the club.
Once mine got older I felt like I was stepping out of a cocoon and got productive again.
The difference is that we can be reasonably sure our phones arent calling back to Google servers without our knowledge.
But hey
if you'd rather be able to call an uber easily that's your choice.
orange gigi agrees
if only we had a concensus run platform to design what we actually want to be regarded as naughty ✌️
and by that I mean take away the reasons people do naughty things and build a utopia together for peace and harmony earth United ✌️❤️
Hey Snowden,
With carrying a phone you especially mean the 'smartphone' or is the old school 'dumbphone' also a risk to carry around (less I guess), seeing the assumption is made we all have a smartphones?
I believe it would be healthy if people just left their phone connected to charger (f the outside "convenience"). Give it the feel of the old 'home phone' next to a chair. Do your thing with it when seated, but leave it when you leave your chair. Take it with you if you travel a bit longer than a day or so and keep it off-line or in some faraday bag when you do.
Not taking heroin is easy if you never had a hit, same goes for one of them phones. Go cold turkey if you're addicted and you know it.
Unfortunately our smart phones nearly always have gsm modules
wish it were possible to have a pocket sized android without the cellular tracking.
pixel tablet, if it were smaller, for instance.
GL 750 and Nokia bananaphone
Do you know of any others?
"That may go away once they start networking all the cameras and having AI start trying to match up clothing sets moving from camera to camera" ☠️
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HODL
Get a mechanical watch, carry a wad of cash. Leave your phone at home. Head out into the world like this at least once a week and enjoy life without any digital bullshit. Thank me later.
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This presumes a SIM card right?
your phone connects to cell towers even without a sim.
that's why you can dial 911 without a sim.
this one is doxing your location as well 😂
It is always darkest before the dawn
i agree... the phone is dangerous. very!! our patterns and habits very unique and so easily associated with a unique person.
Was reading abt Mossad recently - didn’t realise how powerful they are, and then I realised US has 18 intelligent agencies.
They can track you down by your phone, laptop, car or any wearable with wifi access, cloud access - and if they can’t reach you, they will track your relatives, friends and find any communications to you. They can hack into your house security cameras with warrant, remote access your laptop, any public security cameras at any point etc. and if your data is tied to companies, they can get court order and force the company to surrender it. Social media with photographs has been around for 20+ years - the amount of people profiling.
I sometimes wonder if military created internet to connect everyone for the purpose of tracking them.
Gov'ts will say they track you to prevent domestic and international threat. But terrorism didn’t get worse after 9/11. It only became more obvious to the public. And many formations of global fear is from the agencies based on who backs them.
Maybe we are reaching a point where public believe they can only be safe if they let the govt track them 24/7.
I would not be surprised if Satoshi, like you, was from an intelligence agency, a hacker, and genuinely wanted what’s best for the people.
I asked you once if we can ever escape this and you said no. I think abt that a lot.
If you know what you know now and how your life would turn out, would you have still exposed NSA’s dirty little secret ?
Should I carry my mobile Wi-Fi and PC with me when I travel?
Lose the baseband and bluetooth chips, 2.4Ghz WiFi / cable only should be the norm for privacy “phones”
Does airplane mode work too?
What say I use GrapheneOS, keep it on airplane mode, randomize wifi mac, only use public wifi internet with a vpn, and when I'm in a pinch only turn on cellular data with a data-only no-kyc esim?
Recent email: "move your FitBit account into your Google account today! All your exercise and health history stored securely."
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you should be ashamed to use that nym when you're such a cuck
Also highly granular app permissions. So you can turn off network access for, say, the Google Camera.
I love it.
lol every chip has a backdoor inside
Wow so far the FBI is still pissed about my status in America and still accusing me of requiring an immigration visa to live in America. Even tho I'm an American born citizens.
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Info wants to move freely. Stabilisation of info requires costs and energy and the creation of fake information that can surroun it!
Probably not, especially for GPS.
Even if Airplane Mode actually turns off your outgoing radios, GPS is a receiver - your phone receives signals from GPS satellites and calculates your location based on those signals.
Could be that it's always recording GPS coordinates and maybe uploads them later.
"Phones are useful, but dangerous." I think it goes a bit beyond that - the effects it can have on your mind and the resulting actions of the person.
I've seen myself struggling with phone usage while neglecting other responsibilities, willpower and those things can only go so far.
reducing phone usage and getting into real world connections (or maybe over NOSTR) might greatly change that direction.
Is this not common knowledge? A mobile 📱can connect to cell towers and other 📱📱 and even when it’s turned OFF!
What about phone in flight mode? Can we trust that in your opinion?
Secure messaging lol.
A hammer works lol.
ANY phone whether Dumb or Smart has to connect to a cell tower for it to function so obvi, it can be tracked!
Dafuq. Wearing masks on the beach. Is that the world you wanna live in?
A world where we don’t see each others faces is not worth living in
This is good practice.
Ideally you have two phones, one on the charger at home and another for outside use that is NEVER online at home.
Love it. Can point it towards all the normies at work.
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They are not quality bags. It'll leak soon.
Have you a own one, can please you a be more a specification why is case thank you
Be careful what you wish for, cratered lifeless rocks are peaceful... 😂
And far more likely.
For that matter, things were far less dangerous before everyone started "helping"... 😂
of course true, just that one, the smartphone, i believe is more on the radar somehow seeing the tech build these days assumes we all carry it around... Tracking movement is one thing, but knowing what you are doing while on the move I believe is easier with all the apps on a phone compared to the dumb phone..
Sounds like a way. Leaving aside all the tracking stuff, I picture more the dumbphone for outside,, so you don't get distracted and leave the smartphone home,, but maybe then a laptoptop would be sufficient, but the smartphone has its uses,, so you take it out whenever you need to scan stuff or make LN payment..
#asknostr
Would be nice if #btc #lightning payments would be possible without using a device.. Is this already possible? Like a kinda debit card
Do you have a suggestion for this issue?
Many cities I travel to for work and where I live, they offer cellular over "city-wide wifi". Would this be a potential solution?
I also heard T-Mobile will be using Starlink -- but if I understand it correctly, their towers will be linking to Starlink so the phone-tower connection will still be based off current infrastructure -- and thus will not be any more anonymizing.
Agree!
I don’t understand what this tactic is supposed to solve? We need to stop being afraid, and start getting 1000% more angry. Their power is a house of cards, this will show the moment a critical mass of people will simply refuse to comply. With ridiculous laws, with the current taxation levels, with the immense bloat of government. Stop fearing these parasites. Destroy them with unity.
we mean desperation can lead to some things that may be regarded as naughty by the concensus
Yeah but you aren’t/can’t travel with it. … (dating myself here) having nostalgia for the days when you just had a tape answering machine and that was that.
#086 cop has been following me all around the city for days and no one will give me a ride unless I'm doing laundry after I've been stalked by the cops. There's definitely racial segregation with the black community. Both by the cops enforcing it probably and their own hardened hearts. The nicer I am to the black community the more they push me away.
Is this an all time high of likes for Nostr?
Edward Snowden
People really don't realize how utterly dependent modern surveillance is on the idea that everybody is carrying a phone — which is always tracked. Their car has a cellular modem in it — which is always tracked. 99% of investigation is one guy and a search box. If you're not low-hanging fruit, you aren't gonna merit the Eye of Sauron of manual, well-resourced, focused team attention—and if you did, you probably planned ahead for it, right? Because it's not a mystery what would get you on Santa's Naughty List.
Anyway, the point is that even in a big city, the phoneless guy in a "covid" mask is going to be invisible to anything less than that exhaustive manual investigation — at least for a few more years. That may go away once they start networking all the cameras and having AI start trying to match up clothing sets moving from camera to camera, butthat capability is hard to hide, so it'll be in the news. And it won't work that well in places with less camera density and, perhaps, for people who wear the most-common outfits (the visual equivalent of a "shared fingerprint").
Remember: Phones are useful, but dangerous. And the people who will still wear covid masks to the beach are helping to normalize facial obscurity—regardless of their intention. Don't be mean to them. Encourage them to wear them everywhere. For passport photos. In police booking photos. At the customs desk. Family portraits! The sky is the limit—let them push the boundaries so that you don't have to.
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Try GrapheneOS, thank me later.
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Let's be honest. Tracking humans is much more sophisticated than you suggest. The eye of sauron as you call it can use every mobile phone camera on the planet. Suggesting that recognition linkage has not been already matured is ridiculous. If I say a word next to someone that has a phone with a microphone it doesn't matter if I have my phone or not. I can be identified through my voice and speech patterns on someone else's device and tagged to my own metadata pool very easily... Why you worried about being tracked?
The mask does nothing but signal how much of a fucking moron you are and how little you understand about the true maturity of this type of technology. It was developed to identify even those wearing burkas and niqabs.
I’m choosing to be on NOSTR as my real identity. It is an informed choice. Privacy is a human right as much as air and water, if I choose to be private for some of my life, that is my freedom.
Others choose their own privacy. That is their freedom.
Attempting to stop that freedom should be a crime in all civilised nations.
This is why I leave my phone exactly halfway between home and work. I check it in the mornings on the way in and again at the end of the day on the way home. This has enabled me to carry on with my life and not need to move to Russia.
Thank you for saying this part, I find it to be the most important aspect of privacy.
Your comment is the epitome of mental retardation and overly placed faith in a system that hates your existence.
During covid the Canadian government bought all the "anonymised" data from from Google to see how often people went out. Yeah it's plain to see if someone was going back to the same house everyday that they live there. Google should not be allowed to sell/give any of this away.
Maybe a LoRa network for around town?
ShiShi21m
Thank you for saying this part, I find it to be the most important aspect of privacy.
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Hey I wonder if we should have a NOSTR phone off day or two at random. This would be in the spirit of messing with the eve droppers. Thoughts?
I'm thinking it would be great to see their faces when their screens go blank.
And you can get someone else to do it for you, and the "price" for that should be something more expensive than money. Sometimes it's harder to hide people behind "7 proxies" than it is to hide network traffic behind "7 proxies". But it's not impossible.
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Sure. At the opening you have to fold the bag several times to close it. It is at these points where the fabric is folded that the fabric breaks. Soon I got calls on my devices inside the bag :/
So they is are no use I thank you a very much
El mundo es un lugar muy hostil, todos tenemos secretos
Don't put a sim inside the phone.. for one. Secondly, don't run a googled device. Make sure it's something like GrapheneOS and always in airplane mode so your cellular radio is off at all times. You can use airplane mode and still use wifi or Bluetooth. But make sure you're only connecting then with a VPN.
lol! and you think you are safe away from prying government eyes ? LOL Think again. If they want you they will get you. The only way is to be completely analogue
You didn’t mention cell tower timing advance and SS7
#UnplugSkynet
Be the grey man.
Completely agree.
Thanks for your work and service for the free world!
It will be appreciated later or sooner.
I like the punkt phone first gen. Wish it was still compatible and available to get so I can use a simple tech phone again. I miss simple tech in sometime cases. Wish there were more options like that.
Reminds me of that movie “anon” #goals
You are an intellectual land mark...
Pre-Snoden
Post-Snoden
Thank you for what you did and do
Edward Snowden
People really don't realize how utterly dependent modern surveillance is on the idea that everybody is carrying a phone — which is always tracked. Their car has a cellular modem in it — which is always tracked. 99% of investigation is one guy and a search box. If you're not low-hanging fruit, you aren't gonna merit the Eye of Sauron of manual, well-resourced, focused team attention—and if you did, you probably planned ahead for it, right? Because it's not a mystery what would get you on Santa's Naughty List.
Anyway, the point is that even in a big city, the phoneless guy in a "covid" mask is going to be invisible to anything less than that exhaustive manual investigation — at least for a few more years. That may go away once they start networking all the cameras and having AI start trying to match up clothing sets moving from camera to camera, butthat capability is hard to hide, so it'll be in the news. And it won't work that well in places with less camera density and, perhaps, for people who wear the most-common outfits (the visual equivalent of a "shared fingerprint").
Remember: Phones are useful, but dangerous. And the people who will still wear covid masks to the beach are helping to normalize facial obscurity—regardless of their intention. Don't be mean to them. Encourage them to wear them everywhere. For passport photos. In police booking photos. At the customs desk. Family portraits! The sky is the limit—let them push the boundaries so that you don't have to.
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Boy this guy’s a master of the obvious.
People really don't realize how utterly dependent modern surveillance is on the idea that everybody is carrying a phone — which is always tracked. Their car has a cellular modem in it — which is always tracked. 99% of investigation is one guy and a search box. If you're not low-hanging fruit, you aren't gonna merit the Eye of Sauron of manual, well-resourced, focused team attention—and if you did, you probably planned ahead for it, right? Because it's not a mystery what would get you on Santa's Naughty List.
Anyway, the point is that even in a big city, the phoneless guy in a "covid" mask is going to be invisible to anything less than that exhaustive manual investigation — at least for a few more years. That may go away once they start networking all the cameras and having AI start trying to match up clothing sets moving from camera to camera, butthat capability is hard to hide, so it'll be in the news. And it won't work that well in places with less camera density and, perhaps, for people who wear the most-common outfits (the visual equivalent of a "shared fingerprint").
Remember: Phones are useful, but dangerous. And the people who will still wear covid masks to the beach are helping to normalize facial obscurity—regardless of their intention. Don't be mean to them. Encourage them to wear them everywhere. For passport photos. In police booking photos. At the customs desk. Family portraits! The sky is the limit—let them push the boundaries so that you don't have to.
HODL
Get a mechanical watch, carry a wad of cash. Leave your phone at home. Head out into the world like this at least once a week and enjoy life without any digital bullshit. Thank me later.
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I do this often and it is incredibly liberating. Remember when only you knew where you were?
You could opt from SMS to email for logins, many places are giving you that choice now… 🤔
If you seek privacy you do not carry a phone
How about a phone with no SIM card like the one I use?
What do you think of controlling SS7 to fake the ag...?
this is the single biggest threat to my kids generation. everything is a quick click, join, share, accept. They have ZERO clue or worry about what type of footprint or data they leave or how it can be used against them. They are all poisoned for ease of use. Its honestly one of the main reasons I hate Apple products.... dumbs tyem down to the most simple uses and none of them can spare the time to even include cross use platforms. the iPhone users refuse to take any extra steps to include via other apps other kids in IChats or video calls if not just the simple click of FaceTime. its destroying the kids in the U.S.
teach them to READ before clicking, helps a lot
I am a target - SOC
come back Snowden
Phones devices have unique ID. So if its connecting to a tower the tower sees this unique ID and all the towers csn record this. so your home, places you visit. Even with NO sim.
Silent link is great in many many ways. But it still can not hide the built in device ID.
its destroying the kids... worldwide
Walked the same trade floor pre-COVID and it was disturbing back then.
Ive never thought of such a big case to keep wearing masks! Great insights
I came to see what Snowden thinks about a private citizen secretly visiting some secret national agency, as I read in today's news, but he seems busy raising his kids..?🤔 Hope he's doing well
I need
True, but keep watching of ur savety and security Ed!
'Intel Inside'(tm)
The hotspot router is just as traceable as a phone. It has nothing to do with the OS or apps on the device. It is the nature of cell networks.
Hey would love to read your experience on parenting and how you go about it. Any philosophies, books, ideas that you’d recommend to new parents? Thanks in advance for everything you’ve already done for us and the next gen.
