Thread - Nostr Hypermedia

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are proof that we can't make "just apps" and have people use them without knowing that Nostr is a thing. Users must know. And in fact I think it is much easier to teach people about Nostr than about why your damn app doesn't have email+password login and where is it storing things and how does moderation work without telling them about Nostr. And when they finally understand the basics of Nostr they will suddenly understand everything about not only your app, but about all other Nostr clients.

Replies (20)

Colby Serpa💡 colby@hornetstorage.net 2 years ago

Agreed… it’s like asking people to pay with bitcoin without teaching them about it.

miljan miljan@primal.net 2 years ago

I completely agree with @fiatjaf here. That’s why we decided to make our main tagline “Join us on Nostr”. All app labels talk about Nostr account, etc. You are not joining Primal, you are joining Nostr. View quoted note →

fiatjaf _@fiatjaf.com 2 years ago

What an original take.

fiatjaf _@fiatjaf.com 2 years ago

"Normies" are smarter, they can learn.

fiatjaf _@fiatjaf.com 2 years ago

Try Amber. I wish Amber had a "default reject" policy though so I can prevent Amethyst from using it to decrypt things and whatnot.

jb55 _@jb55.com 2 years ago

Are there any nostr clients that do no mention nostr? I don’t understand the source of fiatjafs concern here.

7fqx 7fqx@ditto.pub 2 years ago

I have to agree with the comments about the front page being a huge b!tcoin ad as offputting / poor first impression

⛩oizen moizen@moizen.xyz 2 years ago

Proof for this is to go to yabu.me and despite not knowing a word of Japanese, still being able to post and interact because you already know - as memory reflex - how nostr conventions works (nip-07, lists of relays, the + button, etc.) Nostr in this sense is alike transit etiquette (following transit sings in other country), or if you like, like driving standard (whereas x is the puny automatic or self driving 😆 )

liminal 🦠 liminal@nostr4.social 2 years ago

Surprising, considering you're the first and most popular girl on nostr - I'd expect a wider variety of topics 😮‍💨

7fqx 7fqx@ditto.pub 2 years ago

Don't worry, I'm about to upload some hottub streams

fiatjaf _@fiatjaf.com 2 years ago

People know how to drive cars, make bank transfers, use cumbersome stuff like Paypal. People even know how to do Bitcoin transactions or buy NFTs on Solana. That's not even considering that many people do work and produce useful things for the world that you and I wouldn't know how to.

mleku mleku@smesh.lol 2 years ago

yeah, because pleasing people is the whole point of it isn't it, miss, what's your name? do you do golden showers?

7fqx 7fqx@ditto.pub 2 years ago

They're called Schiff showers

atyh atyh@atyh.net 2 years ago

🥱

fiatjaf _@fiatjaf.com 2 years ago

I don't get your point. Are you saying normies are dumb and incapable of understanding Nostr?

fiatjaf _@fiatjaf.com 2 years ago

That's interesting. What are you building? Can we see a link?

atyh atyh@atyh.net 2 years ago

Lets call them post importance nugget suckers.

Matt - Kind 1 Sisyphus matt@gitcitadel.com 2 years ago

I'm highly technical, a Bitcoin maxi, and I understand Nostr. I come back every 3 months or so and it's still a nightmare to use, nevermind setup. I'll come back in 3 months. Primal is by far the best client I've used, but it's still awful to use.

daniele _@dtonon.com 2 years ago

You can definitely showcase Nostr internals and still have a great UX. Teaching Nostr is the key to adoption. View quoted note →

daniele _@dtonon.com 2 years ago

You can definitely showcase Nostr internals and still have a great UX. Teaching Nostr is the key to adoption.