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No. Nostr is for everybody, we want everybody and we need everybody. It doesn't work if Nostr is just full of people who agree with each other all the time.
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Teboho 1 year ago
that'll naturally work itself out. in the mean time, neatly spam bluesky with nostr onboarding content.
No, it doesn't just seem that way. It explicitly is. I have no interest in winning by way of using government to ban my competitors and neither should anyone else who values freedom.
Bluesky is doing everything the government want. Bluesky sit on left side of Alexandre de Morais
I agree with your disagreement. It’s not that we agree to disagree. It’s just that we agree on disagreement that only agreement can be found on Nostr.
Then everyone must agree to use nostr. We must create yestr as well if we want to capture everyone. It needs to be super centralized and censorious, just make ypubs easy to convert to npubs so people can migrate easily.
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Gabriel 1 year ago
I really don't get it... what is all this "free speech" advocating by one hand, then calling for more platforms banned with the other hand? Last time I checked people talk freely about Nostr, Bluesky and other platforms on X, there are even entire accounts dedicated to competing platforms over there. But when I come here, a platform that is regarded as the "future of censorship resistant networks", I stumble upon posts like this, inciting to censor other platforms, posted by the very own creator of Nostr.... what is this shit? 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Gabriel 1 year ago
what she said is BILLION times better than asking for platforms get banned... I thought people here were against that SHIT!
There’s been quite an influx the last 24 hours, at least that’s what the bluesky folks are saying
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Gabriel 1 year ago
Yeah I understand that, I'm not a technical guy but I understand decentralisation... Regardless of that, I believe every expression of human creativity and ingenuity should be allowed to exist and offered for people to freely choose.... But there also should be some form of moderation because I wouldn't want my kids for example (If I had any), to be exposed to ALL kinds of content, there are stuff not meant for minors to see or to read about, out there in the wild and I don't mean just porn, there are also thoughts, ideas, information in general, that could be harmful for the young minds or just misleading at best. Sometimes seems like people here are kind of extremists, yeah we all love Bitcoin and it will always be the greatest, but people here quickly disregard all kinds of new technologies inspired by the greatest, that build upon it's principles and expands utility beyond store of value and financial freedom. This offspring of ideas sprung from Bitcoin was bound to happen sooner or later, good deeds inspire others to follow and contribute, expand and further build upon that foundation.
It was pretty obviously tongue in cheek. Nostr isn’t just censorship resistant. It is fully censorship-proof. You cannot be censored on Nostr.
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frphank 1 year ago
It's taking a shortcut. Blue sky, too, will eventually be banned too so let's just preempt this by asking for a ban right now.
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Gabriel 1 year ago
so, you're basically saying everything else should be shot down, just because it's not decentralized enough... nothing else other than Nostr deserve to exist? are you even against what's happening in Brazil? because that mindset sounds pretty fuckin similar to what that dude Moreais (or whatever) is doing there 🤷🏻‍♂️
I don’t disagree with any of this. Lots of stuff on the internet I wouldn’t want to see or my child to see. I think the “how” to have the best online experience is what most debate on. Government involvement in that just corrupts it and is a slippery slope as we have seen. “Content mediation” (if we want to call it that) should be in the hands of the platform/relay owners solely with the final say at the individual level with mute or block.
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Rafael Carmo 1 year ago
I agree. Same for Bitcoin. It is for everybody. It’s for you and me and BlackRock and the US and Chinese governments and whoever else wants to embrace it. When we have everyone on a money standard that cannot be debased value will tend to be naturally distributed to everyone according to their contributions. Fiat aristocracy might even get a head start, but they can’t enslave people forever on a hard-money standard.
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frphank 1 year ago
That's not how congregations work.
Proof of work money in turn demands value to be earned. Aristocrats may have a head start, but if they fail to add value they will lose the lead. This will be the biggest step our societies have taken toward true meritocracy.
DRossed will be a Nostr verb one day. You’ve been DRossed and anointed by the king himself! 👑 #DRosStr
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lia 1 year ago
Upset Xandão
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Frank 1 year ago
Bluesky is kicking Nostrs ass, as far as new users
Ya know, I've had ppl tell me this on the street, be a good boi, be patient ... so wierd I could care less for SV its a shithole I hope I never have to step into ...
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MH 1 year ago
With the same precept chat, BlueSky... tem certeza que quer que o Twitter migre pra lá? eles usam atproto que em teoria deixaria mais complexo remover conteúdo por ordem judicial e a empresa não tem sede no Brasil Tweet from @lucas_montano
I just love this sentiment....this is exactly why I'm here...we need each other...some people are here to entertain...some of us are here to see how free it really is.....
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MuyMaestro 1 year ago
Ya, we really need the people who will force us to agree with them , can't wait for that🙄
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chrizzz 1 year ago
Liked this note to prove a point
I suppose one advantage of Nostr is that those people can't literally force you to agree with them. They can't actually get your banned for instance. So although they can behave in an extremely toxic and aggressive way, they can't actually do anything to you. And so maybe the argument is that the presence of more people strenghtens the network.
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nobody 1 year ago
We don't need to do anything. It's a dump, and it's full of insignificant homunculi.