Primal is a centralized pig with lipstick.

At first censorship-resistant and then…censorship. It’s like we’ve never been here before!

Just use real Nostr clients

Dang, I see his posts on wisp and amethyst but not @primal Aight, I'm done using Primal and anyone else censoring I'll actively recommend against using their app.

So primal bad cause they ban him. But he's good for harassing people for saying things? Weird how that works

Ever heard of the mute function? Pretty useful when you use it. Clients can do as they please, and we'll make sure no one uses them.

So you won't mute something you don't want to see, but you're happy for a client to do so on your behalf... and that's... pro free speech? Okay guy.

Same. 5 minutes on Jumble and I can already tell I'll be just fine here.

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Oh it's called hypocrisy when I say general racism or calling people names is fine. But not you being on the side of someone targeting and harassing people and then bragging about it? Yeah you're really bright aren't you.

This is not a Nostr problem. Nostr as a protocol is censorship resistant. This is also not an example of "top down censorship," because Nostr has no-one in charge. Anyone can do anything they want, and what one client developer or dev-team does has no authority over what any other client's developer does. Individual Nostr clients will always have the ability to censor particular users, particular words, or any other metric they want to use, and the same is true for relays. The thing that makes Nostr censorship resistant is the fact that there are a variety of relays and a variety of clients, such that even if one relay or one client censors you, your notes can still be seen on other clients and fetched from other relays. Nostr was not created with the expectation that every client and every relay would be a free-for all, allowing notes from every user, no matter how offensive, to be seen. Quite the opposite, in fact. It was expected that clients and relays would make very different choices about whose notes they censored and why, and whether they would censor any notes at all, so that if a client started censoring someone people thought was worth paying attention to, they would move to a client that did not censor them, and that censorship would be obvious when comparing feeds between two clients where one censors what they deem as offensive speech or spam while the other does not. A single client censoring an offensive user's posts, while they are still visible on every other client, is an example of Nostr working exactly as intended. If you don't like what Primal is doing, then you don't have to use Primal. "Outside of CSAM anyone should be able to post what they want no matter how offensive or volatile." Two things to note here. First, no one has actually prevented @fuckstr from posting. He can still post whatever he wants, as long as there are relays accepting and relaying his notes. Primal alone has prevented those posts from being seen in their apps, and they have every right to make that decision if they think it is best for their users. Their users also have every right to say, "I disagree," and move to another client. Second, the same thing that ensures @fuckstr is able to post whatever he wants ensures that CSAM will always be an issue on Nostr. There is no way around that. If the architecture of Nostr is truly censorship resistant, then the offensive forms of "speech" we don't like will always be able to exist alongside the offensive speech we do like. If a form of speech you don't like can be entirely eradicated, then the same method used to eradicate it can be applied to speech you do like. Because CSAM is nearly universally offensive and illegal in every jurisdiction I am aware of, more clients and relays are likely to take measures to censor it, as they should, but there will almost certainly always be clients and relays out there that take no steps to censor it whatsoever.

Freedom means freedom in my book.

looks fine on jumble. is that PRIMOOOOOOOL?

wE nEeD a CaCHinG sErVer fOr pErFormAnce

it ain't.

More hypocrite retards? Hmmm I wonder what they could all have in common.

lol. You're a third world faggot

"I'm pro free speech just don't say bad words about Jews or accuse them of anything cause that's OFF LIMITS AND ILL HARASS YOU FOR YEARS." You're such a phony

It happened to Ralf, Onyx, Semisol, Rasha. I might be missing someone else. Roughly 2.5-3years ago

censorship resistant != censorship immune.

We don’t need no caching server, we got relays for that.

I see posts and replies for him on Primal.

I tend to agree, and it is one of the reasons I only very rarely use Primal. Maybe I misinterpreted your previous comment to be about Nostr in general, rather than just about Primal. I think what had me understanding you to be speaking of Nostr more broadly was these statements: "@fuckstr is a failed free speech experiment." This seemed to me to imply that because Primal alone determined to censor him, it has shown that the promise of free speech on Nostr has been proven false. "Client-side censorship on a decentralized protocol defeats the purpose no?" I interpreted "defeats the purpose" to mean "defeats the purpose of Nostr," the aforementioned decentralized protocol. The purpose of Nostr's decentralization is to be censorship resistant, but that is not the purpose of Primal, and I don't think they have ever characterized their client as such. That being the case, it only made sense to me to interpret your statement as referring to the purpose of Nostr in general, rather than Primal in particular. Primal's actions can't defeat the purpose of Nostr, even if they censored every post that wouldn't get an "E for everyone" rating from the ESRB. In fact, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a client or two out there that did exactly that for those who want that type of experience.

relays can return incorrect data and internet connection can be spotty on mobile. embedded relay solves many of these issues

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This is concerning for #RedactedScience Time for a new #IPFS Drop #TheArchitect View quoted note →

Uhhh what a fucking lie this is. Your entire campaign of harassment started with you condemning me for speaking ill of your precious Jews.

Oh no the HR department doesn't like me. What ever shall I do.

I had to open another app to see your replies. If you zapped me in the last weeks I didnt receive it either I think

Happened to me briefly when I got in an argument about regime change in venezuela on one of their developers posts pushing it. Then my comments and posts on that topic werent visible from primal (or clients that use their caching server) until @jb55 rebroadcast the notes to their relay. The of course after the issue was resolved their influencers and investors came to try to convince everybody that I was just lying lol. One of the dudes would keep commenting on my stuff trying to discredit me until I asked him if Primal pays him. Havent seen anything from him since 😂

Does Damus have an embedded strfry relay?

The map would like a word with the HR department.

its basically an embedded strfry relay yeah, but faster. nostrdb design is based almost entirely on strfry, except its meant to be embeddable like sqlite

@Iain Davis this is why fuck primal lol

Nice; we forked the Haven relay (khatru) and embedded it using the native Go language.

Translation "I don't get it"

Simp harder faggot

I'm not brown

how do you feel? are you feeling strong? 💪

why don't you say the n word then? keep justifying you white no balls? 😂

I don't believe we have free speech.

No? I'm just not brown. Do you feel weak? Do you feel like a fraud? Does a fish know it's in water?

How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

i know you broke. thats why you crashing out? hunger? jews ate your food? or just a homeless hobo? which one?

So weak

Why were you harassing that Jewish woman?

What's the matter with you!?!! They're God's chosen people!!!!

You'll repost but you won't answer. lol

who?🤣

turizmo vibes 🤣😝🤡

yessir

No he's not. Why would you give him this type of credit?

You're missing the plot. Weather or not @fuckstr wants to or not, his posts serve as an example of, unfortunately, sensorship by a dev on a freespeach platform. It proves a very tangible point. Where there are people, there are flaws. There will be clients that will have full freedom and ones that will throttle. Bitcoin is for enemies and devs can do whatever they want with their apps. It what it is. I vote with my dollars. And I just chose to vote with my attention and switch to Yaki.

"Weather or not @fuckstr wants to or not, his posts serve as an example of, unfortunately, sensorship by a dev on a freespeach platform. " How? Explain exactly how. You can't just say that and have no backing. And begin with "you're missing the plot" Ok then explain it to me because you've given context and no content. There is no backing for your claim other than "I said so"

Id see him. Then I didn't. Checked his profile on primal and no content.

Also did a search and his npub doesn't come up

Ok you don't understand what I'm asking and I'm not explaining again.

Ok so if he is being censored.....he must've said or behaved in a manner that GOT HIM censored. Right? Like censorship isn't just arbitrarily deciding that you don't want someone somewhere. So what did he do to "get censored" exactly?

Love a good rational discussion 👌🫡 Agreed with everything worth noting.

Its a prefference. Do you want decisions to be made for you? I blocked @digit or whatever the account was because I found him repetitive and anoying... 2 years ago, and haven't seen a post since 👌 I did not block @fuckstr, and did not see a post from him for over a month. I did not chose that. Personally. I want control and primal is apparently now making decisions for me. View quoted note →

But you didn't answer the question. What did he do to be "censored?" I don't disagree with the notion that I would like to be in control of what I see. I'm not though and never will be in my life.

In an open sea You must have total control Or there is no point #haiku

Muting is anti free speech, but censoring someone from their own followers is just client preference?

Ok you gotta be trolling There's no way you actually think that personal choice by individuals to ignore someone is censorship but a minority deciding to censor individuals from the rest of us isn't.

Its rare I resort to ad-hominem but some just never give up the paciffer

@paul keating yo, tell those Devs to cool it with the censorship.

Did you choose the client you use? Or did someone force you to use it? If you go into public do you get to choose what you hear other people say? Pretty simple analogies.

Aren't you just a beacon of morality.

Is that what I said? Are we talking about ignoring or did you magically come up with that word on your own? Are we talking about muting or ignoring? I didn't say muting was censorship. I said it was anti free speech. "Censor people from the rest of us" implies you didn't make a choice on what client you use. No one forced you to do anything.

What the fuck do you think muting is? You think that muting hides stuff for other people? When you mute someone on nostr that hides them from your own feed. That's what ignoring means. If I'm ignoring something I'm not paying attention to it. That's what the fucking word means. Typical primal fanboy retard.

Do mute and ignore mean the same thing to you? Explain how that can be true? Do hide and ignore mean the same thing to you? Explain how that can be true? Those words have different meanings. You're conflating definitions and acting as if you're not doing that and calling me a retard for it. Do you feel smart? The funniest part is I don't even care about primal and from what I've heard it isn't great. We aren't talking about primal though we are talking about the difference between muting and ignoring. Ignoring would imply you see it and move on because you have the maturity and will to see or hear something you don't like and move on. Muting means that you do not even see or hear it. See how those are different ideas?

Ohhh you're that Australian dude that can't stop perseverating about politics in a foreign country. You're not going to be capable of grasping anything I say. I've wasted my time. Consider leaving the internet for everyone else's sake.

Primal is literally censoring him. And he's not the first that primal has targeted. Stop trying to gaslight everyone with your retarded bullshit. This is just one example of many where primal has been caught censoring people. And not only have we caught them doing this before, every single time we do they deny it and lie to their users about it. Primal does not censor spam bots, they don't censor accounts sharing telegram and WhatsApp links to childporn. So fuckstr gets censored for being a troll. Others get censored for speaking about politics. But spam bots and links to childporn is fine? FUCK @PRIMAL

You have the option to choose what client you use. No one is forcing you to use primal. The creator of primal is a person and has the freedom to make the client he wants. Simple as that. It doesn't matter if he's the first or the thousandth. And you have the freedom to stop using whatever client you disagree with. Crying about them censoring people doesn't seem to be getting you what you want though. Ok so I guess you're just like having a fit about primal. I don't care about primal. I don't use it and have no plans to. Other people are free to use it whether they completely agree with their decisions or not.

So your entire argument for supporting censorship is that crying about censorship won't stop it? Meanwhile in reality, when we complain about primal censoring people they usually stop. They censored me for months, none of the people using primal that follow me could see my notes. It ended when I noticed and pointed it out and a dozen other people commented saying the same shit has happened to them.

The fact you're going out of your way to defend primal and their policy of client side censorship which they actively deny and lie about. And then your next sentence is about how you've never used primal and don't care about it. But watch this, you'll reply again defending primal lol

No. It's pretty clear that I'm advising people that care about this type of censorship to use a different client because that's what is within their control. "The usually stop and then six months later they do it again because they are the ones that control the app and we just cry about their decisions" Hmmmm

Whelp. We now frens my fren 👊

Please quote where I defended primal.

Agree. The good thing is you can switch to another client.

Guess I didn't defend them then.

yaki 👌

Bunch of cyclopses

he is a paid primal whore that pathetic surfer walking halfnaked all day like a faggot @paul keating long hair hobo bitch

Cyclops close your eye ...

Uh oh HR is back

Do you people do anything but throw tantrums?

I never left cyclops

😂

Look who is speaking...

You're raping me!!!! Send me money!!!! Hellllpppp I live on the streeets!!!!

Be a real man. Call him the n word.

its turiz just ignore this degenerate kenyan nazi

"Ignore this person. I won't. But you should"

I didn't eat breakfast this morning

and thats why im indian 🤣 smart boi

So you eat shit? Do you hate Pakistanis?

In what way is it censorship-resistant? You have 5 relays in your profile. If feds raid all 5 relays, your profile will become empty in most clients. You could try to manually fish out all of your posts that got replicated by other relays and then specify all these relays as your new relays but this would be both extremely tedious and luck-based. Now you could have a neat archive with all of your events ready to be rebroadcast to any set of relays... but at that point this level of preparedness isn't a feature of Nostr nor would it uniquely benefit Nostr, because if you have such an archive you could just as well deploy it in full to a fresh account on any other social media platform, no matter how censorious it is.

Close your eyes cyclops

Uh oh HR is back! And she thinks she's a BADASSSSSSSSSS. Keep performing for your little audience HR lady.

Hr lady was beneath me lol... you think I was an HR hahahaha... me being a badass thats what you think obviously... it came out of you not me .. aaaw... thank you... 💕✨️ thats cute...

Keep performing for your little audience HR. Let's keep this longhouse show going!!!!! What's going to be your next stereotypical bullshit to come back with?

😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂 Keep fighting windmills anon...

Women can be faggots too apparently.

Slandering every person who doesn't agree with you isn't free speech.

primal filters server side and the app only reads from that server. this is one of the most mentioned complaints of primal. there are other clients that read from user-configured relays

As @ChipTuner pointed out, censorship resistant does not mean censorship immune. TL;DR - Nostr is censorship resistant, even against state actors, due to effective strategies readily available to mitigate their efforts to take down content or even whole sets of relays. However, when we talk about censorship resistance, we are usually comparing Nostr's decentralization and redundancy of content across multiple relays to the actions often taken by centralized social media platforms to easily ban or shadow ban users who say things they don't like. "If feds raid all 5 relays..." That's an interesting thought experiment, actually. Let's think through what that would mean. If the feds were raiding the relays of one specific Nostr user, that would mean he has been posting things that are a significant enough threat to the government's authority that it would be worth their effort to see to it that everything he has said on Nostr is taken offline. Presumably, if he was aware that his posts might incite such a reaction from the feds, he would have taken measures to ensure that they would have difficulty achieving a total takedown of all the relays he uses. He would use relays that are in various jurisdictions around the world, not all of which are friendly to the US. He would also be posting to more relays than are listed in his relay list—not merely relying on "posts that got replicated by other relays"—either by use of a blastr relay, or via a client that allows for automatically posting to relays that aren't in a user's relay list. There are also services that allow users to periodically broadcast all of their notes out to all known relays. That way, if all the relays in his list did manage to get raided at once, the only thing he would need to do is publish a new relay list pointing to some of the other relays that already have his notes on them, and it would be as though nothing had happened. Contrary to your assumption, his profile would not "become empty in most clients," because many clients look for profiles not only on the relays a user specifies that they are writing to, but also on indexer relays, so it would only become entirely empty if all his write relays and all the indexer relays were taken down, and the latter would probably not be the case if the feds were targeting him in particular. Either way, though, as long as he has intentionally been posting to other relays that he hasn't advertised, all it takes is broadcasting a new version of his relay list with a few of those relays on it and its as though the raid of his previously listed relays never happened. It would be much more effective for the feds to just go and arrest him, if they actually have cause that would hold up in court, rather than try to play whack-a-mole with his relays. Things are a bit different if we assume the feds aren't targeting a specific user, but are targeting Nostr in general. There are currently almost 1,500 known Nostr relays. Certainly, a large portion of those are just running on AWS, and it would take little effort for the feds to get them taken down. However, a large number are also running on various VPS servers around the world, and even on personal hardware in users' homes via reverse proxy, so it would take quite the effort to raid all of them, especially ones that are outside of US jurisdiction, and it would not happen all at once. As soon as the community was aware that such raids on Nostr relay operators were taking place, they would be 1. Sounding the alarm about such a brazen attack on free speech, and 2. Taking steps to spin up relays that are more difficult to locate and take down. Suddenly every Nostr client would integrate Tor, as a few already have, and most relays would be served through Tor .onion addresses rather than clearnet. I'd be very interested to see how such an all-out attack on Nostr would actually shake out, but I doubt it would ever happen. Specific public relays or public Blossom servers might get taken down for failing to take adequate steps to remove anything that is actually illegal, such as CSAM, but an all-out effort to take down every Nostr relay in existence? Doubtful. Your post seemed to assume that other Nostr relays would still be up and running after the raid, so I am guessing you were speaking of a raid targeting a specific user's relays, rather than all of Nostr, anyway. "Now you could have a neat archive with all of your events ready to be rebroadcast to any set of relays... but at that point this level of preparedness isn't a feature of Nostr nor would it uniquely benefit Nostr, because if you have such an archive you could just as well deploy it in full to a fresh account on any other social media platform, no matter how censorious it is." I am not sure what you are getting at here. Do Facebook, or Twitter, or any of the other centralized social media platforms typically allow you to have your posts mirrored to your own personal archive in real time, or do you have to ask them for the privilege of downloading them? When you start a new account with any of those platforms, do they typically have a tool available to readily upload your archive of posts into your new account, with the appropriate timestamps? Is there any single platform you can name that would allow the upload of a database of Nostr posts? Moreover, assuming the user in question was uploading his posts to a new account because his Nostr relays were raided by the feds, how long do you think he would last on that centralized platform before he was banned from there, too? If he was enough of a threat that the feds raided his Nostr relays, I would assume he must have built up a following here. If he creates a new account somewhere else, will he still have that following, or will he have to rebuild, hoping to somehow get the word out to those who were following him on Nostr to let them know where they can now find his content? Even if he was short-sighted enough to only post to the relays he was advertising in his relay list, and his only method of recovery was to try and find his notes on relays that aggregated them, or rebroadcast from a private archive relay he kept, that's still a major benefit of Nostr. It may not be a benefit TO Nostr, as you mentioned, since he could take that archive and start an account somewhere else, but it was Nostr that made it easy for him to have an archive that was updated in real time as he posted in the first place. No centralized social media platforms that I am aware of have the ability to easily do that. So, even in that situation, I expect he would stick with Nostr, because he can readily mirror his archive of notes to a new set of relays here, using any number of tools made for that purpose, publish a new relay list, and not have to rebuild his follower base somewhere else that doesn't have the same recovery tools. With that specific thought experiment concluded, we can move on to what we mean by censorship resistance on Nostr. We are not usually talking about state actors making a forceful and concerted effort to take down a particular user's notes. That type of censorship is actually quite rare. The US government typically achieves censorship by means of sending takedown requests to social media companies asking them to remove users' offending posts, which certainly could happen with Nostr relays, since the vast majority of them use standard DNS, so their owners are known via DNS registration records. However, how effective that type of request would be when made to relay owners, rather than large corporations, is questionable. This is especially the case, given the example above of a user easily being able to mirror an archive of their notes to new relays, update their relay list, and thus completely nullify the takedown requests, even assuming all all relay operators who received them complied. When their takedown requests are ignored, government agencies may move to more serious non-violent means of turning it into a demand rather than a request, such as subpoenas and court orders, but even these are far less common, because they require a court to agree that the content should be taken down. Again, there is a benefit to using relays in various jurisdictions if you are going to be posting content that you know or even suspect will bring negative attention from a particular government. Actual raids on server infrastructure for decentralized social media are exceptionally rare. I could only find one documented case, and it was a Mastodon server that was geared toward anarchist leftist content. Though the server hardware was seized, the instance itself remained online because other admins of the server had backups. In this example, because of Mastodon's particular federated homeserver architecture, the government officials probably assumed the raid would be effective, since the content they wanted to take down presumably only existed on that single server. The cost/benefit of doing a single raid to take down the offending content of multiple users was worth it. Of course, they were wrong, because backups of that server existed and it was quickly back online. Nostr is a completely different cost/benefit equation, since they would have to do multiple raids to take down a single user's content, and even that may not be effective if that user has been posting to other relays they haven't advertised in their relay list, or other relays have been aggregating their notes. When we talk about censorship resistance on Nostr, we are usually comparing it to the ability of a centralized platform to unilaterally prevent a user from posting (hard ban), or keep his posts from being seen by other users (shadow ban). Nostr is even more resistant to this type of censorship than it is to state-actor censorship. While a relay may ban a user from posting to it, that isn't very effective since a user can just post to other relays that haven't banned them and update their relay list. Likewise, though a client may shadow ban a user by not surfacing their notes to users of that client, those who want to see that user's notes can just use a different client. As long as there are multiple popular clients that make different decisions about whether they will shadow ban anyone, and if so what criteria they will use, then there will always be clients available to peruse the type of content you want to see.

> You have 5 relays in your profile. This assumes your "profile" is only stored on those 5 relays. Chances are if any one of those are public they're federated. All nostr relays could have a secret ban list, or some other form of collusion. Or even something more mundane (but possibly more sinister) like following an automated reporting system if they wanted to. For example. If there was a well known account sharing disgusting things (which relay operators see all the time) they might consider implementing a service to share the profiles of known keys to "ban" them. This assumes all relay operators act in lock step and there are absolutely no alternative relays. Finally (while I dislike it for client privacy reasons) most clients implement outbox, where clients use relay hints from as many possible accounts from your feeds and connect to them. So as long as a user had connections to those outbox users, the "banned" user could host their own relay which would allow outbox clients to connect directly to the users relay and view their notes.

Exactly, and one of my relays happens to have a built-in blastr function, so all I would need to do is update my relay list to a few of the relays I was blasting to and I'd be good to go. Then I can spin up a new relay with blastr functionality and blast to some additional relays, or use a tool like Archivestr to mirror my notes from those additional relays I don't advertise to several other relays. Actually taking a user's content down from Nostr when that user is determined to have a wide range of redundancies, is much harder than just raiding the 5 relays in their relay list.

I see you again. What a fucking joke 🤕🧡🗽

its truly sad. i know im annoying and retarded but if they censored me no one is safe. its fucked up

i was even surprised that you and @Leviticus Mathew stopped interacting.. i was like ok i went too far they are sick of my shit 😂 but i guess you guys didn't even see me

Everyone is annoying & retarded to someone. This is fucked up. What‘s the point of this protocol…? I question my time&energy spent on here at this point tbh.

Yes it only showed „no posts“ on your npub. 🫂

absolutely. especially that you guys are not anons, real face real content. lots of energy and time. anyways bro i love you guys and nostr definitely needs people who has the balls to show there lives/faces 💜🫡

Oh shit I can see @fuckstr's posts again. I just bought a new domain for my new nip-05. We’re so back.

🫂💜🙂

The fact that's a good thing to you means you're retarded

Nah. It means freedom still exists. This is one of those "multiple order thinking" situations where smart people are happy to take a little bit of "bad" for the much greater "good" God bless @fuckstr and his freedom to crusade.

Ok type the n word and press post if freedom exists and this proves it

"just because you can, doesn't mean you should." I'm sorry that you seemingly didn't have decent and righteous adults to help you understand things as a child.

lol ok see none of you actually believe the bullshit you spew.

Hahahahaha oh yeah you're the guy that lives in Texas and loves being overrun by Indians and Muslims. Hahahahaahahahaga. Yup your profile already says it. You are a retard.

So because we don't use our freedom of speech to spea racist shit, we must not actually believe in freedom of speech? That's kind of retarded. Allowing freedom of speech ABSOLUTELY, allows people (the market) to make more informed choices when others expose themselves in whatever fashion.

It's not racist it's just a word. You're using that word as a tool to prove that you are free to say whatever you want. Keep coping. You don't believe that you actually have freedom to say whatever you want on here or this wouldn't be an issue. Don't get me wrong. I agree that we don't actually have freedom of speech. But I'm honest about it. Unlike you.

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. Not all consequences come from entities of supposed authority. You first order thinkers are exhausting. Get blessed.

If you are paying consequences for the words you are using then you are not free to speak. It's really not a hard concept. I can tell you're a bit mind raped. But if you have to pay a toll to use a road then that road isn't free to use. If someone is forcing you to pay consequences they have authority over you. This really isn't hard stuff.

Economic illiteracy is a real problem these days. Physics applies to everything and so does economics. I don't have the time or inclination to argue with fools anymore. You can use nostr as you please, and I'm glad everyone else can also. Goodbye, and *get blessed*

I hope you get murdered for saying words and then your family justifies it by saying "well he did say something someone didn't like and freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences" You're one of the most mind raped retards on here. I'm glad you have the freedom to die at the end for your life.

You should try being right every once in a while. It's really cool.

"We call it freedom but it's actually more like an economy" Oh so not freedom? "Well no it's freedom because that's what we say it is" But you just said it's an economy and physics "Yeah cause that's how I justify not actually believing in freedom but it sounds bad when I'm honest like that" Cope harder

People are conflating my opposition to censorship with support for his views. They are two separate things.

Can you specifically point to what he said or did to be "censored?" Or are you just throwing the word around?

Cults don't like nuance.

thinking you are the great retardation projection machine

Ah, I see now.

Not even because doesn't agree.. His behaviour since day one was slandering every person that has a certain number of followers and try to farm those, labelling later his harassment as free speeches. Primal censoring npub isn't new, people that now are defending this npub weren't this liud in other cases as for ralf or other examples of Primal not being the most uncensored and decentralised client. Primal for sure isn't The best client or the most free, that's absolutely true since it's foundation and I often criticised it, and from them to block npub is wrong.. but you all know this might happen using Primal..(that's why I don't use it as first or second client). This said, making the crusade of free speech using as flag a retarded npub muted by half of Nostr and circlejerking around him.. lol.