The hard truth is that people are tired of social media in general. And if we keep onboarding them into Twitter-like interfaces we will keep losing them. Somebody will come up with something better than this and I hope they do it soon. We need some brand new ideas not just recycled UIs.

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I noticed that bitchat is probably the most active Nostr community right now precisely BECAUSE it is markedly different.
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JackTheMimic 6 months ago
Fully agree. They are just different mediums for data consumption. Ones I see as relevant to Nostr: - Microblogging - Articles - Short-form video - Long-form video - Long-form Audio - Organization platform - Market platform - Code platform - Game distribution / Game identity platform
I remember telling you similar ideas, but who knows what apps humans need in the end, maybe I was wrong and they need non, tired of everything
X sucks because it's full of bots and spam and it's not possible to get rid of them because X was designed for bots and spam. Nostr is too much like X that's why people will continue to come and go from Nostr. The solution is to make it more like Facebook, because people love Facebook and it's still the king of social media. I'm talking about the ability to have private profiles and public profiles where you need to friend request because they are allowed to interact with your profile posts, that way spammers and bots can't get through. On nostr it should be required to pay in order to send friend/follow requests. This way it will get rid of spam. That is the only solution. It's a big job, but I'm sure eventually nostr will head into that direction. Nostr is fine as it is now. Most people in the world don't want to use social media unless it's a more personal group of friends and family. Most don't want to talk to other people online. I'm not worried. Nostr will eventually win.
Kind of disagree. We really don't know what a decentralized microblogging platform that truly gains traction in society is going to look like. Mastodon is the closest example and, say what you will, it still has ~500k DAUs. How much of the objection to microblogging based on the peculiarities of this form of media VS what it has become in the light of 10 years of corporate-driven enshittification?
Are people tired of "blogging"? People seem to want to speak to each other on the internet. What's the best way to do that?
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aenigma 6 months ago
True. Maybe I'm not understanding them well. And I also never used them. Surely I'm not one of the millions of people using them 😁
i for one appreciate the ephemeral nature of stories. its what ppl are doing now, today. i rarely care about someone’s historical tweets
Seriously need actual useful clients. Twitter is retarded garbage and the fact that Devs on nostr are trying to make things more like twitter is retarded. Nobody with half a brain uses Twitter, you don't use Twitter to stay in contact with people or stay informed it's literally just retarded slop and bots and trolls. And Nostr is full of retarded bots now as well with these retarded obsession with trying to make it more like twitter
So if I follow 10,000 friends who all use 4 relays in their outbox my client must connect to 40,000 relays and fetch + deduplicate events from each relay individually to guarantee completeness and consistency? That's retarded. Why don't we look at Pubky and observe how homeservers sync with indexers (on a centralized platform)? Why does nostr not replicate this? Users of outbox can opt to sync data to a platform who can index it on their behalf. Like sharing content. A novel concept. Why has nostr bastardized this so hard when otherwise things work decently well? The current ethos sucks ass. No I don't feel free as a developer on nostr. I could always just do things.
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Hofer99 6 months ago
Yeah people lap that shit up as if it was free corona virus vaxx. Nobodies going anywhere.
São apenas ideias : Não sei como seria feito, mas você colocaria a música que está ouvindo no dia e esse som iria aparecer para pessoa clicar ouvir e comentar. Poderia ter um espaço para que livro estou lendo. Um espaço para que música estou ouvindo Etc. Isso irá aparecer no perfil da pessoa, e seria atualizado etc.
There is only so much humans can do with information alone. Whatever is next has to translate into realworld experience.
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Nostr is designed from the get-go to have limited reach just like Bitcoin is designed from the get-go to be volatile.
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Wavves 6 months ago
Check out Wavves on the zap store. Its a fun way to discover new content. V2 coming soon.
Check out Bitsocial, its federated nor uses relays. Its content-addressable and much closer to BitTorrent in its design. All users seed by default, nodes run on cheap hardware, and each community represented by a keypair so no need to trust a relay/server
I'd still love to see people adopt the GPS enabled local focused notes you've got in Amethyst. The problem is we're all such privacy maxis we balk at the idea of sharing location 😆. That said being able to locate local people to connect with is one of the allures of Club Orange, and was one of the key things that made dialup BBS's a different experience than Internet platforms (or protocols!). I don't see a great way to square the circle on privacy and location, aside from people just deciding that it's worth it though. Maybe there's something like subkeys and a weird handshake protocol or something with far more clever cryptography than I've got a grasp on. But I've long thought local-first platforms are a great way to step back from the mayhem. More than ever in the era of AI slop.
Forums to go deep into topics. With wiki functionality. With categories functionality and then mapping user's categories to other users and groups categories. Then the ability to form concentric circles of contacts. Be able o prioritise what is read and have a good recommendation engine of what to read next. The idea is to be able to offer more and more content and to have people reading for more and more time.
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Alex Gleason 6 months ago
Yes! This guy is a legend. He just proved that birds use words to describe specific things. There's a special word for "snake"
Exactly dude. I just don't value social media like this. (I do value video platforms tho). It's cool to come on here every once in a while to see the top posts, but I only care about the other uses of Nostr.
Yeah, that’s my impression as well. When I look at Instagram, everyone is posting stories both creators and just normal people that I know
Absolutely... Where there are people, there is and will be noise! ​​But for those of us who are genuinely driven by the desire to connect, create community, inspire, and cultivate real conversations and relationships, a huge advantage lies in the fact that on Nostr, we have to create our own algorithm. We decide who we follow, who we interact with, and what we want to see in our feeds. Most toxic social media junkies won't have the patience for that, as they're used to being trapped and controlled by that algorithm.
You won't believe but people are happy with twitter style cause they like to meme and shitpost.
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Stories are trash. But just speaking for myself, I did come here to escape the enshittification of Twitter, and there has yet to be a single Nostr client that has fully delivered on the promise of having a better user experience.
I love X because we get live news from the ground as it's happening. Unfortunately, the incentive payments have flooded the algorithm with bots engagement farming. I think I've blocked over 1000 people to clean up my timeline. On Nostr I've blocked "Bitcoin" and "zaps" and my timeline is deserted.
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jostric 5 months ago
I agree, I've known plenty of people who just stopped using social media all together. Not much I can do to onboard them.
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FEW_BTC 5 months ago
What people don't get is that many on nostr don't care if it grows. Few... remember.
Brand new idea:
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The way it usually goes, your online identity is your private key. If the key is compromised, there goes your identity. Inkan fixes that. You keep a master key in cold storage and a signing key for everyday use. If the signing key ever leaks or gets lost, the master revokes it and delegates to a new one. Same identity, same followers, fresh signing key. If you'd like to take a look at the prototype: https://www.inkan.cc. Log in with your NIP-07 extension and say hi to the test identities already walking around. Or make one of your own.
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