This motherfucker really said this shit
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Fuck
It would be a lot better if we could replace all the virtue signaling from both sides and realize the system is inherently broken.
I like to say, "Time reveals all."
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Savor every day.
Legit Atlas Shrugged. Good luck nyc
He's Catholic with Arab characteristics, so this isn't a surprise.
He’s Muslim
Commie cunt
Insanity
Yeah, I hear the ninth circle of hell just oozes warmth too.
My wife was like, “He’s all about big government, isn’t he?”
Individual autonomy will be subordinated to the needs of the collective
The death of the Man thinking for himself 🐑
NYC about to be in the finding out phase 
One of the most punchable faces that I have ever seen.
How dare we look out for each other and help each other! Next thing he will be saying is “the least among us will be the greatest”.
I just want more presidents with shitcoins and a family of grifting children to run things.
When money has no value, human becomes lazy.
When human are lazy, they becomes communist.
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Love Mamdani 🥰
Some people just need to be buried alive.
This is the typical Democrat today, as I call them demonrats. He is a Muslim. Everything he does is done with world Islam as the final goal.
Zap
I bet some Pennsylvania militiaman's dying wish at the Battle of Brooklyn Heights was for this exact moment, when an Indian-Ugandan could impose economic communism with a side of sharia justice
Someone is missing the difference between private groups and government.
This is a joke, right?
Sorry if I broke the echo chamber
Not an echo chamber. Just primarily people who are intelligent and understand history.
It's ok everyone! He's been cleared of his communist accusations!
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Fact check: Is Zohran Mamdani a communist?
No, Trump's claim that New York City mayoral candidate’s platform is akin to communism is false, experts say.
But you are the billionaires… right?
This collective shxt ain't the way
Nice with the insults. Have a good night.
Throat punch followed by roundhouse kick to the head.
Oh cool if Qatar state television says it then it must be true
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I'd be more worried about this if i were you.
Of course he did. Individualism is the ultimate archenamy of force-collectivism. That's what they ultimately seek to destroy.
Eveything in politics boils down to unalienable rights amd individual free agency vs. forced-collectvism.
God's side = Individual free agency
Satan's side = Forced-collectivism
Exactly. See my other post in this thread.
They always claim they're not communist or socialist becase they don't fit the definition 100%. Nobody ever does. So I call them all forced-collectivists. Just saying collectivist doesn't deliver the same punch, because it implies everyone is on board, when the truth is most people are being forced in to it.
Bullish
Said it out loud 👀
🤷♂️ It’s a reasonable conclusion
Pluribus, here we come.
You didn’t get insulted you big baby
Reading comprehension
That's the fastest I've ever gone from not knowing anything about someone to hating their guts.
Wesley Mouch? He's Ragnar Danneskjöld cannon fodder, go for it! That's how the story goes…
I'm more interested in which parties organized the massive movement of migrants to Russia, and what that looked like on the ground in USA.
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I'd ask him what about those people who don't wish to be collectivist, will you respect their wishes and leave them alone?
I don't think he's bright enough to be playing 5D chess. He's just a soppy liberal. Hardline Muslims will hold their nose and vote for him to grow their base and interests, then replace him with a fundamentalist.
Where? Point them out.
He is of his father....Satan
At least he is open about it
fucking nazi-speech
NYC is sinking
why?
Ayn Rand villain.
Can’t you sense the honest, humble trustworthiness in his gestures? 🤣
If a push for re-migration happens in the West.
After migrants have been treated as 1st class citizens for years in the West, what happens to the native homelands?
What is the net product? Is it a viable mechanism of low effort colonial expansion?
Little confusing, care to explain?
Good lord
It beams of GPT a little
I support his policy, for the most part.
Where was the insult?
It wasn’t from you. I consider implying someone is unintelligent an insult 🤷♂️
On the internet that rates about a 0.3 out of 10 on the insult scale.
Yeah I get that. I just end interaction when people start with insults. No reason to discuss any further with people doing that. Nothing productive can come from it.
100%. Sworn in on the Quran
I only refer to this guy as Bin Laden in conversation.
OMG 😦
Disgusting, hidious, repulsive, sickening!
I actually like him 😄
I follow him on Bluesky, seems like a nice guy, who thinks about the poor people. He is kind I think. Maybe Kindness is about not being so focused on the self (the individual) and hence the word collective maybe.
Tank man was and is still my HERO
He's proposed a wide range of things, from cutting red tape for food carts to free childcare and exit taxes for people who want to leave NYC.
What policy proposals of his do you like?
lol nah
Kindness is a great characteristic.
When applied on the personal level - giving generously to those less fortunate - it's commendable.
When applied on the population level - unless that population is a small tribe - it requires theft and violence.
The good thing is that the less you have of the latter, the more room there is for the former.
(Even though I totally disagree with most of his policies, I was very sympathetic to Mamdani in this election for various reasons. And I sympathize with his supporters who are fed up with the current system.)
Bitcoin adoption is in a race with totalitarianism dude.
What year is it in your opinion? Is it 2007?
My political views, for practical purposes, are generally democratic socialist. I’d prefer to go a lot further than that but it’s just not realistic. I support some supposed “right wing” policy though, like enforcing immigration laws and opposing trans stuff as it relates to minors.
I know that’s kind of vague overall, but I don’t really feel like going through his platform line by line lol.
I don't live in New York. Why should I cate about this guy?
Just line those frigid mofos up.
I'm not sure I understand the question?
I think Georgie and Mamdani are wrong in this thinking. My takeaway (and perhaps Luke's point) is that even a popularish republican US president that didn't want to follow free-market principles was wrong.
Also, not sure we've had a free-market in America for decades. Different politicians just tilt the playing field in favor of different beneficiaries/lobbyists/bribers.
Everyone is picking winners and losers out here buddy
Hard pass. I’ll take rugged individualism over the Gulags any day.
It's a false dichotomy which many fall into.
We can actually live in the space of independent and interdependent, depending on the relationships.
Individualism and collectivism, exist, but don't normally play out literally in real life.
Of course, if he's saying it, he may be implying, "Collectivism, or else."
That sounds exactly like Australia. 🫣🧡
Who is John Galt?
I don't mind collectivism, just don't touch other people's shit. It's called property rights, the source of wealth creation. The Romans already understood this well.
yeah well, collectivism inherently touches people’s shit as they think its property of the collective.. lol.
By theft if you mean taxation that is already happening and he is advocating for using taxes properly for better public services, so it makes sense.
If the issue is about taxation and system itself then it’s a different topic , nothing to do with him I think.
If he's not advocating for more taxation, great. That wasn't my impression.
But in general, I find the idea of kindness via coercion to be very problematic, so even if there's no change in taxation the rhetoric is troubling.
Oh yea true, I forgot that he is going to raise taxes for the top 1-5% richest I think.
Anyway, I do understand the idea - whenever things are forced, we don’t like it and also makes us dislike things that indirectly cause this forcing (poverty, inequality, food subsidies, etc etc ) and thus reduces kindness in the world.
But also, as long as the concept/tool of “taxation” exists as a system balancing act, guys like him are needed.
Discussions to usurp forcing tools completely from our systems is a different topic - this has been my main point that we should not misplace our disappointments or anger.
yes, fair enough
but - fun fact- income taxes in the US were also introduced as only for the richest Americans (upper 3%)
Humans don’t seem to let go of money but the system needs money to be redistributed to keep the consumption economy going.
And so Taxation (and UBI in future) will exist to keep the monetary economic system alive. The only freedom in my opinion is to evolve the system into something non-monetary resource based system.
How do you envision a resource-based system working?
This is hard to answer because
1. I don’t exactly know how it will function.
2. It will loosely be based on gift economy values.
What I am mostly confident of is the path towards such an economy which will inevitably take us towards a new system and reveal it’s exact workings.
The path I have in mind is an application of an ancient meditation method called Vipassana to the economy. Basically in this meditation, the root cause of suffering is identified to be our cravings and aversions.
I think the economic system suffers from the same (Cravings for infinite growth).
When I apply it to economy I got this : Start zero-profit business in the food sector. And hence I have a plan document here if you’re interested:
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The Vipassana Grocery Store
The Vipassana Grocery Store Introduction: The Economy is a Body We often treat the economy as a math problem, but let's think of it as a biological...
This is incredibly sweet. I read the whole thing!
It seems to me that something like this might work in a small community and in fact is probably not too far in spirit from how some tribes organized activities and goods.
Thank you :)
It’s a simple grocery store idea and so, I think it will work anywhere. This is more like a consumer food coop and when Food coops can exist why not this everywhere?
Normal stores - Try to Maximise & keep all profit
Coops - Share it with members as dividends
Zero profit store - Gives it back to customers it took it from.
Simple unexplored business model and doable I think.
And thanks for read it 🙏👍
It just seems to me that you'd need a lot of people on board to not take advantage of it. I'm not quite sure how someone would take advantage of it but it's hard to imagine it working at scale.
This is in fact pretty close to what co-ops do, right? employees are paid but there's no owner that profits.
Someone who organizes it would take a salary?
(ironically, I believe that grocery stores are one of the lowest-margin businesses out there so even though I like your analogy of breath in vipassana to food in society, groceries are not actually a very high-profit business)
On the subject of money: one of the things that's interesting when you study the history of currencies is that humans didn't use them in very small groups. There was just no need. But with trade among tribes, currencies tended to emerge naturally as a way to facilitate exchanges. You might find the study of money quite interesting.
It was hard for me to imagine how Vipassana Meditation centers which don't charge a penny, still exist and not only exist , they grow, Now they have 267 own centers world wide offering 10 day courses for free. The surprising part is once you finish a course, there is no one "asking" you to donate. Sometimes people have to really ask around where the donation counter is. That is the effect of something that is offered selflessly and we living in a system built upon selfishness have forgotten that power. And a selfless organization isn't playing the game of "who is taking advantage of whom" - that game is only true inside a system based on selfishness.
Yes, there are paid employees and also volunteers in co-ops. Both are possible.
You would be surprised regarding margins. This is the recent report on retail sector / Supermarkets in Germany (As its in German, maybe some AI can answer your questions once you upload and ask it): https://monopolkommission.de/images/PDF/SG/SG%20LLK%202025/Sondergutachten%20Lebensmittellieferkette_Monopolkommission.pdf
In summary, there is a kind of monopoly happening in Germany, these supermarkets squeeze the farmers, food processors and also charge customers a lot as they don't pass on the savings. And guess who is the wealthiest person in Germany, owner of a grocery chain, Aldi.
I have read the history of money and those examples. Somehow the assumption is that we would go back to that era when the topic of a moneyless economy comes because it is hard to imagine one and so as I said it is hard to describe for me the final evolved form of the economy without money.
I just try to kickstart this simple zero-profit grocery project and see where it goes 😄 .. I know it wont transform the entire economy in my lifetime, but maybe after 75-100 years - just laying the foundations, sowing the seed for a different kind of economy :-)
I can see how much you have thought about this!
I don't know enough about Germany, but in the US most monopolies exist because of the way corporations lobby the government for rules and regulations that work in their favor and basically create a moat around them that makes competition almost impossible.
I think the most damaging monopoly is of money itself. Only central banks can print money, and the use of each nation's currency is enforced by violence (or the threat of violence). I can imagine that without that, different forms of currency or trade could emerge naturally.
And the masses cheered, slack jawed and ill informed, waiting for their cheques in the mail, complaining there isn’t anything to buy in the government run grocery stores.
True, it is a really competitive space but its food 🥺, its life, we need to claim it back and make it free from profit. No matter what the currency is (Even Bitcoin), we know how profit ruins any industry, I think this is clear to the world today.
So though I agree theres a monopoly of money but I don’t see how a new form of the same idea (ofcourse free from govt n central authorities) has a different effect on humans in running the same services/businesses , won’t we want more of bitcoin , will profit maximising disappear, will hiding scientific research to make profit go away, will businesses suddenly care , will kindness exponentially increase? I dont see how.
I guess I don't agree that profit itself is bad. What's dangerous is when some people have the leverage of monopoly to impose their will on everyone else.
Without that centralization, you still have human greed (on a continuum - people who want a second set of clothes for their children all the way up to people who want 30 yachts) but you don't have money printing as a tool for the most powerful (who I think tend to be on the pathological side of that profit-seeking range).
So personally I don't think that profit ruins business; it's monopoly and centralization that ruins business and society.
Competition has become a dirty word. I'm not sure why - because it feels harsh or mean? between siblings or partners it can be negative, I suppose but in society it's the basis for so much that works well. I buy little apple seedlings for our land, and I look for varieties that have been selected over the years for resistance to certain diseases, etc. The nurseries that sell them compete with each other to grow better trees, and everyone wins when there are more of those better apple trees out in the world. It means more apples per tree, more food (which, as you say, is life) in the world.
Reminds me of a recent song I wrote/made using my Philosophical notes on Evolution as a Greedy Optimizing algorithm vs Conciousness + Me humming the tune + AI putting it all together, please give it a listen 😃 :
So .. I think money and its direct consequence, profit, played a very important role - lots of trade, cultural exchange, etc. Just like, Competition has played a very important role in Evolution and therefore Humans exist today. So no, Im not classifying any of them as categorically bad.
I now remember a famous quote "Nature is cruel, but we don't have to be" by Dr. Temple Grandin. By the way, I remeber it from a really good movie based on her life, worth checking out.
So, Yes competition, money and therfore profit are not bad. They were needed in the past. But now they're not well suited to be dominant mechanics or the soul of our economic system, we need to evolve out of it too.
If change is the only thing constant, then maybe we must entertain a bit of change. And I think our economic system needs change.
Let me know how you like the song 😃
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We are nature rolling the dice - We are Nature
He forgot collectivism happens for the too big to fail class and indivisualism for the too small to care class.
Nah you can do voluntary collectivism. Just nobody does it xD
Today I came across the term “Naturalistic Fallacy” which I think fits perfectly to what I wanted to respond regarding competition in nature vs competition in human built systems.
It states that just because something is a certain way in nature, doesn’t mean it ought to be that way in human morality.
Yes, "not necessarily" is a good way to phrase it. I've seen how wild animals kill their prey and it's definitely not how we kill our livestock. Nature can be an excellent starting point and guide but it can also be quite cruel.
The warmth of socialism is from the funeral pyre of people the state killed to confiscate their property.
We definitely need not be more cruel than nature, I think we can agree on that.
What Dr. Temple Grandin’s work did was to make animal slaughter less cruel than it was.
But, I think we humans kill animals in a more cruel way than nature does. When in the wild animals are hunted they have a chance to escape and live , we on the other hand leave them no choice like that, which is much worse if you think about cruelty not just in the form of physical violence, its a lifetime of torture and imprisonment, So yeah, sorry but we are much below natures standards and I think, we need to keep striving to rise above it rather than using “Naturalistic Fallacy” argument to justify status quo.
Animal confinement is terrible, which is why it's not how we raise our animals and why I'm careful with where we buy any of our food. Big agriculture - whether of grains or meat - is horrible for animals and the environment.
I know what the naturalistic fallacy, but can you explain why you're bringing it up in this thread?
I don't think everything natural is good, but I do think that biology is a reasonable starting point to look at human systems and actions.
Hi , sorry for my delayed response. I wrote a draft but it didn’t get saved as I wanted to come back to it and finish it later 😄 . So let me try to write it again.
I guess Im referring to eating Animals itself as a naturalistic fallacy that its the way it happens in nature, so we will do it and then comes we should do it in a better way than nature.
But our methods are actually not better than nature - an animal raised only to be killed (At least nature is kinder in giving them a chance at survival). And then the people who do the killing don’t even want to do it (read a research on that long ago) and only do because we live in a monetary system where everyone has to earn a living and so they do so to survive ( In nature the eater does the killing, but we have outsourced that pain , guilt & useless empathy to others) ..
In short, our ways are way worse than nature and one of the causes for it is monetary market based economic system we live in. We can do better but only if we acknowledge that we are not doing our best