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Amazing!!!

Know thine enemy Know thy self

The thread you referenced mostly contains responses agreeing with you.

Yes definitely. It wasn’t universal at all.

Surprising amount of boot lickers where you least expect to find them. 🥾👅💦

Agreed. There are many very emotional responses to things lately and few cooler heads.

The answer is easy. Authoritarian is not Nationalist. We believe that the old world of separate countries and communities was a safeguard of democracy. This entire movement of migration and internationalization has only one goal, creating a pulverized society where people don't know each other, don't have an identity and cannot understand each other. This is the key to render democracy impossible. So we don't want a strong dictatorship but an homogeneous society where people agree on what they want. All the rest is garbage and chaos

I think that is due in part to the weird co-opting of Bitcoin by right-wingers. It went from a cypherpunk "fuck the system" anarchist/libertarian movement to a Jesus-loving, farmer, with 11 kids. Nothing against those people or their values/beliefs, but they are often the ones I see telling other Bitcoiners how they're allegedly meant to live.

Some of them are the same people who accuse developers who happen to not have children of harming bitcoin. It’s so weird.

I understand.

Christianity is a "fuck the system" religion. The Bible is all about how human government is evil. The Christians who appeal to government authority are confused. I think the Christian bitcoiner farmers with 11 kids are fucking the system (unless they take corn subsidies).

Same confusion everywhere the for principle based. Similar when the calls for state power were against more conservativish voices. Those who would diminish individual liberty (short sighted political opportunists as useful idiots for interests that would capture, and thus prefer more leverage) always wait for the opportunity, or create it, and then do whatever it takes, sans moral consideration, to 'persuade' politicians to implement the premeditated agenda. Easy for me to say as a domesticated news consumer, someone with a platform ought to stand up.

Oh the other thing is some aren't real, some aren't being honest, and some are early in the process of learning political lessons.

OK, but now serious question. Let's say there is real Nazi nonprofit with all the Nazi ideology (about superiority of their race and all the goodies) and they would assassinate some black guy, who was calling them out, and all the Nazis online would be celebrating and saying that that nigger had it coming. Would you support government going after the money funding this organization?

There's a SIGNIFICANT difference between authoritarianism and a federal government doing its job as the Constitution provides. The federal government's Constitutional role is to keep the states united, represent (and defend) them from enemies foreign and domestic, and to bring peace if the states' governments are neglecting their citizens. That's exactly what this administration has been doing and that's exactly what JD is referring to. It's a far cry from authoritarianism. It's a defense of American citizens, our values, and our way of life. This is why anarchists and modern libertarians always lose: y'all want the government to literally NEVER get involved, even when it's obviously necessary and Constitutionally justified.

Well, the correct answer is 'No, let's not say that.'. But the principle is that delegated responsibility ought never exceed rightful authority. When it does, the better system is more likely to provide avenue for remedy.

Not you saying “serious question” then saying the n word. What an idiot.

Fiat suffers from inflation; Bitcoin suffers from conflation.

I am back, I can say that.

+ this discussion is about free speech we don't like lol

Thank you.

I dont have Those problems... I aint American 😄🤣😝🤭

Places online that I thought were impervious to this kind of thing, have sadly turned out not to be. I for one don’t like the right or left as they are today, they seem to be the same thing almost. Angry. It makes it harder for people to find friendly political ground and they feel compelled to run to one or the other, there seems to be less of a “safe haven” in between now. Or is that what we are led to believe? Are we not using our own ears, eyes and minds? Have we all become conduits of the echo chamber and that seems to perpetuate across many of the social media platforms.

1. Assemble any group of several hundred people. 2. Assume you won’t find a smattering of left and right totalitarians. 3. You are naive.

No, it just means they are criminals and if the only way people are gonna wake up is when they take the money from us or shit crap then so be it

That's a problem with the United States not with Nostr. People that pretends to be libertarian and in reallity are conservative and religious fundamentalists.

I’ve been constantly disappointed how many people are cool with authoritarianism when it flips in the direction of controlling things THEY don’t like.

Right. Some weirdo blocked me for being a knotzi fucking copetard. Wanted to shitcoinize btc so hard. Calle !!!

The right needs to look in the mirror if they want to see where this violence comes from. Badgeless masked ICE agents throwing citizens and legal/illegal immigrants alike into unmarked vans and detaining them without cause, deploying the military to US soil against civilians, broad neverending claims of emergency that happens to support their claims to extraordinary powers, constant dehumanizing of marginalized groups, inciting violence at protests and rallies, freedom of speech hypocrisy. Call it both sides at the very least. The right wants a civil war with the left now because one of their idols were killed until what are still very murky circumstances. Murder is awful but apparently civil war is okay if it's your guy who was murdered, even before the truth is fully known. This stuff doesn't just pop up.

I don't believe you truly understand or have faith in Bitcoin. Being a Bitcoiner doesn't mean you are against all centralized organizations, such as nations, governments, or companies. We simply want to secure our rightful, rather than being completely at their mercy. Similarly, Bitcoiners also understand that change won't happen overnight; it will take time, and for a long time in the future, Bitcoin and fiat currencies will coexist. It is a good signal for us to see the U.S. government integrating Bitcoin into the central banking and Federal Reserve system. This shows that the coexistence of Bitcoin and fiat is officially taking its first steps in the world's most powerful nation. And finally, bitcoin will replace most of fiat currencies. As for your last point, I can only say that you are a kind of hypocrite. Leftists not only call for the deprivation of speech rights, they also use real actions to deprive people of the right to life. In contrast, the right-wing is only fighting back against these real actions to deprive people's life by leftists. These two are completely different. ‘If Charlie Kirk's assassination was just an excuse they had been waiting for, if it wasn't him they would have found another excuse.’ Unfortunately I can only say, 'leftists are violent criminals, sooner or later.' So it makes sense that they can find another excuse.

I don't believe you truly understand or have faith in Bitcoin. Being a Bitcoiner doesn't mean you are against all centralized organizations, such as nations, governments, or companies. We simply want to secure our rights, rather than being completely at their mercy. Similarly, Bitcoiners also understand that change won't happen overnight; it will take time, and for a long time in the future, Bitcoin and fiat currencies will coexist. It is a good signal for us to see the U.S. government integrating Bitcoin into the central banking and Federal Reserve system. This shows that the coexistence of Bitcoin and fiat is officially taking its first steps in the world's most powerful nation. And finally, Bitcoin will replace most of fiat currencies, if not all of it. As for your last point, I can only say that you are a kind of hypocrite. Leftists not only call for the deprivation of speech rights, they also use real actions to deprive people of the right to life. In contrast, the right-wing is only fighting back against these real actions to deprive people's life by leftists. These two are completely different. ‘If Charlie Kirk's assassination was just an excuse they had been waiting for, if it wasn't him they ... see more

So you want to force everyone to adhere to your ideals? Why shouldn't you be forced to adhere to someone else's ideals? Homogenous cultures are brittle.

Politics is brain cancer and the junkies who are into it are no different than sports fanatics. It’s irrational most of the time unless you are repealing the patriot act in which case you rule.

YOU LOST ME AT “THE ENTIRE POINT OF BITCOIN WAS TO CREATE A FINANCIAL SYSTEM IN OPPOSITION TO WALK STREET AND CENTRAL BANKS.” I DON’T RECALL READING THAT IN THE WHITE PAPER….I FEEL LIKE THIS STATEMENT IS WEIRDLY AUTHORITARIAN….

No. No conditions. You enter the country illegally, you don't belong here. It's not the citizens that are being locked up/deported, it's the illegal immigrants who have no documentation to prove they're here legally. As for deploying the National Guard, you go after the governors and mayors not doing their jobs, not the president whose hand is forced by those incompetent fools. The only people who have been dehumanized, especially in the last decade, have been conservative Christians. "Fascist" this, "nazi" that, it's constant demonizing of political opponents and, thank heaven, we're done playing around with that. It's also not our side that incites violence, by the way. There's no "both sides" to this anymore. There really isn't. The right doesn't want civil war. We didn't burn down cities like the left did after a degenerate drug addict and woman-beater died due to his own stupidity. We were the ones who set up vigils, prayer meets, etc. We're the ones who are PEACEFULLY pushing for change at the civil level, rather than pushing for violence. We're the ones adhering to the values of this great country. Meanwhile, the far left are the ones literally celebrating the death of an innocent husband and father whose only crime was respectful, peaceful debate. If you want a reason for our anger and our resolve, it's the fact that we are sick and tired of being falsely accused of being nazis, fascists, white supremacists, whatever... all because we're not in 100% alignment with the ridiculous views of the far left. We're sick and tired of trying to be moderate, only to receive spit or a fist in our face as a result. We were the ones ALWAYS trying to talk it out, have respectful debate, and the guy who led that charge was just brutally murdered by a psychotic monster that epitomizes the values of the far left. There is absolutely ZERO "both sides" to this issue. None whatsoever.

This is a Marxist theater production. JD Vance is a certified Marxist, a radical internationalist and a seasoned Jew-lover. JD Vance is firmly planted on the left. His master, Donald Trump, is revolutionary left wing. America is not a democracy. It's an autocracy with 536 property owners. Beneath the property owners lie the Marxist state apparatus, which is international in reach. A democracy presupposes that the population has property rights. Americans don't have property rights, which is the basis of all other rights, which means that they have absolutely zero rights. Americans and Europeans only have privileges. Privileges are granted by the property owners. Privileges are: "your" life, "your" children, "your" bank accounts, houses, pensions, stocks, bonds, guns, freedom of movement, freedom of speech, socks, etc. All privileges can be removed. The POTUS and the US Congress are authoritarian left. Donald Trump is taking the United States in the direction of Judeo-Bolshevism 2.0 AKA psychopathic totalitarianism AKA psychopathic parasitism. Once this state has been entered, there will be no going back. It's a self-perpetuating system where the slaves have all been reduced to the lowest common denominator, which is parasitism. To fix the situation, upstanding and noble American plebs have to exterminate the POTUS and the entire US Congress. Then annihilate the Marxist state apparatus from top to bottom. Marxism is total in scope, so it must therefore be extirpated in its totality.

This is a Marxist theater production. JD Vance is a certified Marxist, a radical internationalist and a seasoned Jew-lover. JD Vance is firmly planted on the left. His master, Donald Trump, is revolutionary left wing. America is not a democracy. It's an autocracy with 536 property owners. Beneath the property owners lie the Marxist state apparatus, which is international in reach. A democracy presupposes that the population has property rights. Americans don't have property rights, which is the basis of all other rights, which means that they have absolutely zero rights. Americans and Europeans only have privileges. Privileges are granted by the property owners. Privileges are: "your" life, "your" children, "your" bank accounts, houses, pensions, stocks, bonds, guns, freedom of movement, freedom of speech, socks, etc. All privileges can be removed. The POTUS and the US Congress are authoritarian left. Donald Trump is taking the United States in the direction of Judeo-Bolshevism 2.0 AKA psychopathic totalitarianism AKA psychopathic parasitism. Once this state has been entered, there will be no going back. It's a self-perpetuating system where the slaves have all been reduced to the lowest common denominator, which is parasitism. To fix the situation, upstanding and noble American plebs have to exterminate the POTUS and the entire US Congress. Then annihilate the Marxist state apparatus from top to bottom. Marxism is total in scope, so it must therefore be extirpated in its totality. nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqak8r2hr5jglrk0wc37t59lz98x6gyf6pwaku6hpwakhvslznjh6qqsp5fqeed7elscrp9v63jejp6jv5p8yrya2p42ngk2v3nnkst8yqyqh7e9ln

Bitcoin is for anyone. If a group of plebs selects authoritarianism as the preferred social order, they can then unite and make it happen. I'm not interested in telling other organisms what to do in other countries, locations or natural domains.

Cool. Although I reserve my right to be disappointed.

I'm not sure if this is about the state, or "authoritarianism". I see this as genuine blowback from grass roots every day people who've had enough of the madness, and don't want to see people getting murdered, or to see people cheering for others getting murdered. I'm sure there are also "authoritarians" out there equally worried about this, but that isn't the gist of this. This is bit of a read, but very much worth the time: https://primal.net/allen/1758031375463 I'd be genuinely interested to hear your thoughts on it?

Continuing my thoughts: I don't think you can apply the label "authoritarian" to people calling for crime control - that's the #1 function of the state! You can perhaps try to make the case that now the government is going after people who are not criminals, but incitement to crime is also a crime. And yes, I'm sure many will weasel that cheering for murder is just "an opinion" and not incitement, but I think it's time we just stop buying that BS. It's high time for the madness to end.

I feel you. Plain politics in a Marxist state is eternally ineffective. The Jew and its lovers have banned effective opposition. It is illegal. Nothing outside the Marxist state can be accepted. All Jew-lovers are Marxists. There are no exceptions to this rule. The Jewish race manifests itself on the planet as the vanguard party in the Marxist state, which is international in scope. Jew-lovers implicitly understands this, and they would sorely like to have a seat at the international table of never-ending psychopathic parasitism. These critters are extremely aggressive parasitical breeds. The only way to successfully come out on top against such noxious creatures is reciprocating with even more extreme aggression. This is nature's law. A Marxist state cannot be eradicated from inside the system. Once it's cemented, safeguards are put in place to ensure its perpetuation. Jewish Marxism is parasitism on a gargantuan scale. The remaining option is violence, executed with unprecedented brutality. Violence is the most effective form of politics. Moral considerations need not apply. These highly virulent life forms don't operate on moral grounds. They operate according to the parasitical inclination. It's perfectly OK to kill them.

The US Constitution is toilet paper, and it always was. The Founding Fathers knew exactly what they were doing when they wrote it. Americans don't have a Bill of Rights. The subjects have a Bill of Privileges. Defense of American citizens? Donald Trump just liquidated 1,1 million American plebs with his fast-acting vaccine. This was OK according to the Constitution. A proper defensive act would be to liquidate Trump and his entire Marxist state apparatus right away. American values and way of life? Is sucking on parasitical Jewish dicks a way of life? Is exporting Marxism and internationalism an American value? If so, flush the entire rotten edifice down the fucking toilet. Knut Hamsun was right about Americans: They suck.

A non-American has a negative opinion on America and an ignorant opinion on our politics... shocker. I don't really feel like arguing if you're not going to debate in good faith.

A nationalist doesn't force anyone to their ideals. You, as an internationalist, do. Only an internationalist could be psychopathic and presumptuous enough to tell different breeds of people what to do.

Why would nationalism matter in this context? What nation?

ethno-nationalists are happy to see a fair and neutral money system for the world. These things don't clash with each other.

Incitement is speech. Either you have absolute free speech, or you don't have free speech at all. Drop the charade. If crime control would be of interest to the Marxist state apparatus in the United States, there would be hundreds of thousands of "doctors," judges, politicians, journalists and professors lying dead on the streets after the murder of 1,1 million plebs by lethal injection of the Donald Trump vaccine. This will not be forthcoming, so it's up to the honorable plebs to kill off Donald Trump and the US Congress. Then finish off with liquidating all Marxist state operators in the country.

Noticed this too. Glad to see there are at least some others who notice this. Our contributors are left disheartened most days, doubting why we moved to #Nostr as our primary platform for information dissemination. But since a large number of us are from tech and crypto, we understand the separation of a decentralized product from its fanatic users. Let's hope this is just the we're-early, like it was when a bunch of us joined Twatter in 2008, and bought #Bitcoin in the years that followed. nostr:nevent1qqsp5fqeed7elscrp9v63jejp6jv5p8yrya2p42ngk2v3nnkst8yqyqpupmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhj2v3swaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxumm5daeks6fwwa5kute9xgc8wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9ujnyvrhwden5te0wfjkccte9eekjctdwd68ytnrdakj7ffjxpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuvrcvd5xzapwvdhk6te9xgc8wumn8ghj7mnxwfjkccte9eshqup0y5erqamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7tjwvhxumm5daeks6fwwa5kute9xgc8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwv4u8getj0ghxxmmd9ujnyvrhwden5te0vejkuunfwgkhxtnwda6x7umgdyh8w6twqgs8d3c64cayj8canmky0jap0c3fekjpzwsthdhx4cthd4my8c5u47srqsqqqqqpfueyst

This is a sick joke. Trump supporters not wanting anyone to get murdered? Donald Trump and his Jews just murdered or permanently impaired their family members. These parasitical fucks don't care about madness or liquidated husbands and sisters. All they care about is following their parasitical inclination. Parasitism trumps dead wives and sons. The highest dream of minor parasite is to one day become an even bigger parasite. That's why Trump supporters love the parasitical Jewish race and all its psychopathic Marxist lovers, boyfriends and beaus.

No. The primary targets of the National "Socialists" aren't blacks. It's Jews, Jew-lovers and other virulent Marxists parasites. Liquidators of such noxious critters are the highest personalities that currently exists on the planet, and this must be rewarded. These legends should receive support from all decent and noble plebs. If the legend terminated a Yid, the impressive character would be eligible for a donation of 1 million satoshis from each of the supporting plebs. If the superior breed annihilated a Jew-lover, the honorable mighty specimen would receive 2 million satoshis from each of the respectable plebs for the excellent action. Jews, Jew-lovers and all similar destructive Marxist breeds have it all coming. The more dead Jews and Jew-lovers lying dead on the streets, the better it is for the environment. If this is not allowed by the state, the option remaining for the plebs is to extirpate the entire Marxist state apparatus from top to bottom.

I want a world where there’s many freedoms and speech is one no matter what. As well as the freedom to travel, the freedom to transact.

Bitcoin was creating during the 2008 recession, and officially released as software following the worldwide bailing out of banks; that's as strongly declarative to your message being "fuck the banks" as you can be without explicitly saying so.

4th turning.

Samesies. I get tired of the firehouse of bitcoin bros and transmaxxers here too. Like go fuck yourself groyper, nobody wants to hear your stupid fucking incel shit here except Nick Fuentes. At least Kirk is finally out of the picture, but I digress.

We must have very different feeds. I'm not seeing anyone cheering on authoritarian activity

I think its mostly because when neocons started to get censored and banished from mainstream we welcomed them out of principles.

I'm kind of baffled that you can't square the right authoritarianism and the inordinate amount of anti-Jewish propaganda. Amd I'm not talking about anti-israel memes.

I mean these guys are pretty in your face about it, too. They're not hiding it.

What nostr are you looking at because I don't see that at all.

I must have blocked most of them already

Lol okay. First of all you're making weird assumptions about me, and second wtf is a breed of person.. we are not bred, we are all individual humans with agency, intelligence, and freedom. Nation states are like 300 years old and you want to make national government the center of the universe so your prefererred skin tone is dominant. Yeah, I think there are more important problems

Wasn't talking about national guard, he deployed the Marines (since recalled as it was ruled illegal but he wants to do it again if that can be overturned): https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-rules-trump-illegally-deployed-national-guard-l-rcna224779 Crime has been hovering around all time lows for many years so the entire premise is flimsy at best. The national guard can't do anything about cartels or drug/gun/human smuggling, which are the biggest issues. If you believe ICE is acting in good faith then don't use unbadged, masked agents who were working at McDonald's yesterday to snatch people literally off the street. From a non-sycophant perspective it looks a lot like totalitarian tactics. That's one reason you see people calling the right Nazis and y'all never seem to recognize that Trump's rise to power was based on his encouraging lies and violence against people who he disagrees with. Lock her up, Obama's birth certificate, all this stuff: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-violent-rhetoric-timeline/680403/ Or dehumanizing by calling opponents vermin: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-compares-political-opponents-vermin-root-alarming-historians/story?id=104847748 The right in general seems to think of teans people as some demonic subclass intent on raping their children and murdering them. "Illegals" are so subhuman they don't deserve basic human rights or dignity. Chain them, detain them and ship them to CECOT. If that's not dehumanization I don't know what is. These are what brought the left to the point of believing Trump is a dangerous authoritarian. This all happened before the left started getting snipey. The right refuses to see this and take any responsibility for their actions. You set up vigils, yes, as did the left for all their martyrs. The violence came later for the left and the right immediately started yelling civil war as soon as the video of Kirk came out, before anything was known about the shooter. (There is still not much really known about the shooter, it looks like something is being covered up to me). The people celebrating Kirk's death are fucking idiots. But they're also not in power. They are mostly slobs who work minimum wage jobs in bumfuck places. This is your justification for dropping all semblance of civilized conversation? Boy, I hope no one compiles the millions of comments from people on the right over the last decade saying all the same things and worse. I don't know you and don't believe you're a Nazi or anything. I think right now you, among much of the online right, are grieving and upset at the senseless loss of an important person in your community. I can understand that. But it's not justification for further violence, especially since the right has total control of the federal government right now and any crackdown on the left will look more like the administration taking out personal and political grievances on people who have nothing to do with what happened. But the way, I follow this administration closely and agree with much of what they are trying to do. I can understand the desire to destroy the deep state etc. I believe the left overall is well intentioned and attempts to see reality through the lens of peer reviewed science, but in practice demonstrates ignorance of economics (mainly because they trust the scientific literature which is increasingly in a reproducibility crisis) and is as beholden to wealthy investors as anyone on the right, though they claim they aren't. I hope Trump is successful in bringing peace to the worl, he seems to genuinely want that. But he's a human, a politician, he's flawed, as is everyone else in his administration. He uses dangerous tactics to build his own personal power and wealth. If you believe Whitney Webb, he's deeply connected to organized crime and the Epstein scandal. There are no easy answers here. Hope you come to recognize that.

It's a uniparty. There is no democracy.

I didn't see actual bitcoiners who are pro bitcoin into gov integration

There are some real gigabrains in this thread. I think it just boils down to people who think they have been right about bitcoin (and they have so far) think they are right about everything. Zero introspection or willingness to admit they believed lies or were wrong about anything.

As Nostr grows, you’ll see more and more of every kind of person in your replies and feeds. Even now there’s everything far left, far right, anarchists, flat-earthers, you name it. That’s the nature of decentralized and open networks: they attract groups that get pushed out of centralized platforms. That’s why strong filtering tools are essential. Without them, we end up seeing far too much of what we don’t want, and people eventually just stop using the platform.

The left hurt them so they lined up for whoever promised to hurt the left without thinking about the cost of revenge. Same for most of the extreme liberals except that they will burn the whole world down to hurt the right. Insecurity + revenge create an incredibly destructive force in the world.

Bitcoin was invented because trust in institutions was broken. Democracy is an institution as much as central banks. People generalize what they learn. It’s not really something to be confused about.

Curtis Yarvin's Urbit and Balaji's Network State are framed as democratic on the basis of decentralization, but are incredibly monarchic; obey or leave. It's like saying you oppose the Roman Empire, but welcome the Dark Ages where Feudal Lords reigned over peasant serfs. This "if you don't like it then leave" mentality is one of total privilege and complete individualism. Many Bitcoiners unfortunately are libertarian individualists who only oppose MEGACORP in favor of their own CORP, their own rule, and their own people. Decentralization != Democracy

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You can distrust the existing liberal democracies but to then advocate for authoritarianism is not anti-institutionalism. It is in fact wishing the state had even more power. It’s like, “hey this system isn’t working great, what if we gave it more power and less accountability, that’ll make it all better.”

Mastodon was the same way

You know this. I know this. So that’s already two people on here knowing this. A start. Nonetheless for many people it makes perfect sense to distrust institutions and therefore switch from democracy to authoritarianism just because the latter is not an institution. It’s personification. Psychologically that’s different. I’m just taking perspective here. Not my opinion.

nostr:npub1hmmjfah37m94fycvyw42y0mrnw96ke73948n03fmfr5gj2fs77xq0juy2s that kind of makes sense. So much of strong man politics, caudillismo in Spanish, is about group identity and the desire to have a sense of belonging and there is a single father figure who will make it all ok. And one way to unify the group is to pick scapegoats who can be blamed for what’s wrong in people’s lives.

Flat Earth AnarchoCapitalist here...

I'm getting hammered in the comment section of a right-leaning substack this week. The account started as resistance to lockdowns and mandates - you know, abuse of centralized authority, censorship of media, etc. The number of commenters who really believe that when Bondi says she'll go after hate speech, it's ok because she's on the *right* side with them against the bad guys... it's bewildering. It's why I moved away from the Left - the complete inability of my cohort to see that abuse of authority was dangerous regardless of how happy they were to see certain figures or ideologies targeted or certain narratives squashed. On Nostr I see much less of this, though! Maybe the folks that take the time to disagree with you are the ones that jump onto the thread to comment?

Both sides are paralyzed by corrupted ideologies

If organisations are set up to tear down democracy and that openly threaten the lives of US citizens, then surely the government should take action to stamp them out or at least limit their capacity. If you want to have a society free from socialism, and at the same time there are countless groups funded to achiving this aim, when does it become okay to act? It should be very clear to all that the left will resort to violence, blatant lies and corruption to achive their objections. It is also clear that they will not be stopped by peaceful debate. So pehaps there needs to be some consequences for what they are doing?

I don’t think you know what that word democracy means. You seem to be confusing the state which you see to love, with the system by which it’s controlled.

Grok, what is he saying?

On Nostr you have actual freedom but, for some weird reason, people who's mind is poisoned by politics are often attracted to meaningless patterns of speech, like a mindless LLM. And the American right loves to use the word "freedom" a lot without ever meaning it. So that's why.

😂😂😂 So Hilarious

Someone has to. Have you seen the way they live?

That’s just a straw man argument and a fallacious assumption. How much violence do you need to see before a government takes any action?

Yes. The father is our first concept of power dynamics. When more sophisticated concepts fail we fall back to the simple one.

Government action itself is violence, always violence. The violence of the elites, which is called "law" (while the violence of the people is called "crime"). How much political violence from the state and its champions do you need to see before defensive, anti-political violence can happen?

Influencers are the algorithm on nostr

I too cannot understand the excitement and support for institutional adoption of Bitcoin. I personally am not looking forward to it being largely held and loaned out by the likes of Wells Fargo, MSTR and Blackstone. These companies create FUD in the news and to general public, while they buy up the power of Bitcoin for themselves. Ultimately these big companies are either limiting our access, or opening up myriad new ways to give people false ownership over something they never took the time to understand. Learn. Look Deeper. Bitcoin is for the people. nostr:nevent1qqsp5fqeed7elscrp9v63jejp6jv5p8yrya2p42ngk2v3nnkst8yqyqpupmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhj2v3swaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxumm5daeks6fwwa5kute9xgc8wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9ujnyvrhwden5te0wfjkccte9eekjctdwd68ytnrdakj7ffjxpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuvrcvd5xzapwvdhk6te9xgc8wumn8ghj7mnxwfjkccte9eshqup0y5erqamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7tjwvhxumm5daeks6fwwa5kute9xgc8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnwv4u8getj0ghxxmmd9ujnyvrhwden5te0vejkuunfwgkhxtnwda6x7umgdyh8w6tw68ffjl nostr:nevent1qqsx4planmmp85l2ltaw6442a9rdfkrx7turs43dy7llwqysj0ge99c4q7vxw

Then there's something wrong (or right, if you have actively set filters for it) with your client...

They seem way more common here than elsewhere though.

Left and right is just the same. They exercise authoritarian to its people and you even make it worst by introducing new terms “ right leaning authoritarian “ Is like there is some in the right which is not totalitarian. The bad system is too much over controlled population in any aspect .

> I also get confused leftists who think the solution is to deplatform people they oppose, but thankfully the “delete their account” folks aren’t much on Nostr... While CEOs delete accounts for mere personal reasons, it's absolutely natural and understandable that there are people asking to "delete their accounts". It's natural.