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I occasionally prune my follows. I guess it depends on what you're using LLM for in the creation process.
I don't understand why I'm being tagged though. I'm already in the middle of one moral crusade today, not sure I have the mental space for another.
In their defense, maybe they followed after some interactions and not after the cringe 4 cringe. But totally agree with you. Scrolled the profile, saw that and never followed ๐ฎโ๐จ
LOL nah. I'm just a spergy genius. ๐
I talk like that IRL, too. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Duly noted and actioned. Qapla' ๐
Thanks for the alert and effort you've put in, I was fooled.
You may not be interested in a nostr war but a nostr war is interested in you
Maybe WoT is not the final solution
Just give us a cut, and we'll call it good.
We'll funnel the proceeds into better onboarding. ๐
๐คฃ I'm just that good.
Indeed they are
You just claimed that I have superhuman powers and I'm owning that. No take-backs! ๐
most r not as meticulous as *U* *B*r'O' ime/
Is this extortion? Nostr tax! Whatโs going on here? Where is the manager?
WoT has been broken since it was created.
And 90% of solutions act like a social credit score.
Bring back notabot....
Please start a thread and list the authentic newcomers with little followers so I may follow them. Thanks
doubt is uP & rising {atm, imho} worldwide/
2 many ifs - just look @ marriage rates
just stink/\/ think/\/ out loud
Thanks for the warning, already UN followed.
CON\/id blew holes in my fam/
@Micah C. Miracle - has a radio show every Tuesday and mentions Nostr on air.
@npub1pwqh...epsw - after numerous interactions is clearly a real person with honest intentions.
Followed both
Hahahahah yeah I suppose it is!
I muted him already anyways.
trust has been tor pedo ED*/* how 2 fix th@?
i wish i had a radio show. i only have cows, bisons, wapiti, wolves & hopefully hungry bears content.
thanks, ryan <3
Funny you mention it. I was following the account, then realized this morning that all his posts seemed LLM generated.
^/ thIZ will take time in my "O'pine*/* trust is written on the fiat $ & almost a neg. word & growing/ya wdyt
@๐๐ข๐๐ ๐ดโโ ๏ธ๐ถFirst of all, what right do you have to say things like that. Zap4follows are a fun way to grow a little with your profile. It's not a scam. I'm the one who's hoe. I don't steal sat from anyone. Secondly, it is absolutely not true that I use LLM. Third: who the fuck are you who has been talking to me since I opened this profile. Ugly pig
View quoted note โFirst of all, what right do you have to say things like that. Zap4follows are a fun way to grow a little with your profile. It's not a scam. I'm the one who's hoe. I don't steal sat from anyone. Secondly, it is absolutely not true that I use LLM. Third: who the fuck are you who has been talking to me since I opened this profile. Ugly pig
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It's a tariff.
AI Pepe coin ๐คฃ
It's not all it's cracked up to be.
Ty for the mention. It's nice to be on this side of the discussion. On a side note,
@โฟoniz23โก๏ธ๐ดโโ ๏ธ๐ฎ๐น did reply to my request for railroad-themed music last week. I even called out their profile on the air, thanking them for the suggestion.
This week I'll look at everyone's profile before promoting their scammy shit in my program.
Exactly what I had in mind ๐
Put in months of work. Crazy ๐คฃ
When he changed his pfp to a wolf and started talking about shitcoins ๐๐๐
thERE might *B*, keep IT uP guys cuz WE need 1*/*ya
i take it y'all shamed the dude to oblivion?
They got rekt, yes.
I've been here for over 2 years, helping authentic users with their problems and giving them advice on how to use Nostr and have success finding their community here in an organic, non scammy way. I've tried to help you as well. Instead of listening you ignored my help, and call me names.
You're just a fucking censor who orders other people what they have to do! You don't even know what freedom is! What are you doing on this social network?
lol fun. I re-followed you now.
this is fun.
I don't agree this is "censorship", but it's ... something.
@๐๐ข๐๐ ๐ดโโ ๏ธ๐ถ doing the good work.
I'm doing some Spring cleaning myself. I've noticed dead wood and shady activity in some cases.
Pls donโt tag me in this BS anymore
Iโm in enough hellthreads ๐ฅ
no Ryan is saying the Italian flag guy is the scammer, not Mahdood.
tbc I don't think either are.
I didn't order anyone to do anything, just pointed out what I have noticed. People are free to do as they wish, as I am free to offer my opinion. I cannot censor you.
Once again I will offer my sincere advice. Rather than engage in scammy influencer tactics to gain followers, be authentic, and you will gain followers organically. You don't need to buy friends. Be real, and find your community here. It's that simple.
I swear it's an unfair thing that's been done to me! The gentleman should go to work for Facebook. I would see it well to cover people's mouths
She is definitely not AI.
If she is then that is the most advanced AI imaginable.
There is no censorship, but there is unlimited clowning on unnatural growth - those burned by this behavior have decided to fight back. Actually seems quite natural. Doesn't matter the intention if you've seen the end results many times
I know Iโm just messing around. I donโt have much of an opinion here.
You should go to work for Facebook! You ordered 100 people to remove my follow. And since you are more authoritative than me (in the eyes of the people here) they all listened to you like little dogs. Go see my profile. What's not authentic??? I post photos of my daughter, of my life, of the places I visit. Do I post every day on โฟ? Because I do a follow4zap every now and then I deserve to be annihilated by you who randomly decide that my profile should be annihilated? This is censorship my friend
my most charitable reading is that the account in question is not a native English speaker, probably over-uses LLMs and emojis, and might have engaged in some questionable practices in the past but is not a "scammer".
That's why I have tried to help this user in the past. I've mentioned to them numerous times why zap4follow is bad for Nostr, and advised them on ways to grow their account more naturally.
Yes ๐
#tariffstr
I want to report to all our users that I was treated like fish in the face and censored for no reason by a user here who ordered his 100 dogs to remove my follow because he says people scam! I didn't know that doing zap4follow was scamming people! I lost 100 followers in a few minutes without deserving it. Go see my profile. I publish things from my life. Photo of my daughter. The places I visit. I post every 10 minutes about every kind of topic. And for a zap4follow I deserve that a character who should work for the facebook censors deserves to lose what I built in a month here on this social network? Where is the freedom? Isn't it a free and decentralized social network? What happened to me this? Please visit my profile and you will see the effort I put into it. The censor in question is @Ryan and 35 others
Let's spin as much as possible that there are scoundrels like that who ruin emerging profiles! This social network will never grow with people so that they censor the little ones
#nostr #bitcoin
I called out corndalorian for crying for zaps a while back. He got triggered and muted me. Some people agreed with me and others thought I was being an asshole. Zap for follow is just as cringe as crying for zaps on memes imo. But there isnโt anything malicious with either. One is making memes for sats and the other is offering sats for follows. If heโs going to pay sats for follows then I guess thatโs fine. Itโs like paying for ads to get people to follow your instagram. Itโs not great quality follows but itโs not malicious. And I think using LLMs to communicate is inauthentic. Itโs low quality content but is it scammy? I wouldnโt say that but I would agree that Ryanโs advice to not use those tactics is solid. Eventually people wouldโve unfollowed if it really bothered them. There was an npub I had to unfollow recently because all the posts were just asking for sats to feed their kids. I donโt think thatโs scammy but itโs just annoying.
I didnโt say she is AI. I said that I think she uses AI to respond sometimes during arguments.
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I'm kinda being an asshole to make a point today, but I believe my advice is sound.
Meh.
I think she is just one of the smartest women on Nostr.
Her tenacity, skills, knowledge comprehension are outstanding.
She even won an award for being Legendary too.
Yeah. I have seen some sketch shizzle that made me wonder. Are the npubs that say Ryan and 35 others (or insert number) in the WOT?
fair. I'm still going to continue following him, though. how will we know if he changes his ways otherwise?
WoT shouldn't work on follows, anyway. I should be able to follow someone in order to see their notes, whether I trust them deeply or hate and distrust them entirely. it just means I want to see their notes. we need better ways to represent reputation and trust that aren't follow-related (ahem, grape rank, cough cough
@david)
It is as you say ๐
I'm in ๐ฏ agreement on that. A follow means nothing, just that a button has been clicked one time. Hopefully we see more of a move toward multiple lists, and using something else for trust. I wish I had a "trusted users" list, that I could add people I have met IRL, and users whom I've had extensive interactions with to. Follows don't really mean much.
Most follows aren't even the result of clicking the "follow" button, people just get onboarded with them.
#PurpleKonnektiv is going to add attestation abilities to the meetup app. ๐ค
That's a good point โ๏ธ
Iโm glad to hear that! What types of attestations? The more high quality trust signals become available, the easier it will be to supplant follows as a source of trust signal.
Augment may be a better word than supplant. The more data sources we have, the better.
That's why there's a subset of npubs with a sky-high and steadily-increasing number of followers, that hardly ever post anything.
I've been protesting the Tyranny of Follows, for a while; that's why I hardly have any. It pisses everyone off and makes me look rude, but
Influencer types won't let follows go, even though they are useless ๐
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The so called #Primalelites ๐๐
We first just did badges, but that's really easy to game and some people troll others with rude badges or wait until people add badges to their profile and then turn the images into porn. Very funny.
Then we thought a handshake method would be good, so that someone can give someone else part of their WoT, if they know them IRL.
And there are also ways to gamify the handshake at meetups, by using techniques that requiring seeing the same thing or connecting over Bluetooth, or whatnot.
Thanks for sharing your list of interesting account ๐ค๐ผ valuable ๐๐ผ
At least he proved the point of LLM content since your writing style above is very different from other things you're posting. Even the formatting above sucks and makes it TLDR
I prefer his authentic style.
Be you ๐
Well luckily I'm no where near knowledgeable to do that
Not you, you were just following. Sorry for the tag ๐ซ
Zap4follow? I got scammed, I only followed the account because I read something I liked. Boniz23sats you owe me zaps (50,000,000 sats) for following you for the past two years.
Finally some fucking drama. Fight bitches. I'm double down on both follows.
It was a good distraction from the markets this morning if anything ๐คทโโ๏ธ๐
That's more or less why I followed him.
What about that Flash guy? What are people's thoughts of him?
The news npub? Not sure. Does it do zaps 4 follows?
โ๏ธ๐ฏ this
I donโt see any when I scroll rapidly
I don't think so. It occurs to me that I am not always aware of the spammy/scammy accounts. Maybe I'm not here enough or maybe I'm just oblivious but I figure I should do my due diligence.
Makes sense
Check the zap message. Some investigative reporting I saw earlier last week ๐
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I love this GIF. It's getting a text shortcut ๐
That's fucking wild. Completely missed that story.
Bro I was looking for it but couldnโt find it ๐
I got ya ๐ค
Some intense detective work
WoT based solely or predominately on follows is worthless
Yeah that's crazy. Very impressive that he managed to sleuth that out.
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A follow isn't worth much in and of itself. It's a single click of a button.
Another hellthread after a few days off ๐๐ญ๐คฃ
That sounds something a scammer would say ๐ just kidding ๐
Or are you
He's running a news curation business.
Not everything automated is spammy or scammy. Intent, transparency and delivery are important.
Anyone can add a "bot:true" tag to their profile, as well. I also build bots, for release notes and testing and stuff, but they're going to be labeled and our clients will display that label in the npub profiles.
You're looking at theforest, probably. Nothing spammy on there.
Labels for bots is a great idea.
don't even sweat th@ shit Pen*/****
โญโญโญโญโญ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐๐๐ง ๐ซ๐๐๐๐ก ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ฆ ๐จ๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ข๐ซ ๐ญ๐๐ฅ๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฆ +๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ง๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฆ โจ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ฆ๐๐ข๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ฃ๐๐๐๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ฒ๐๐๐@๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ข๐ฅ.๐๐จ๐ฆ
sry
@๐๐ข๐๐ ๐ดโโ ๏ธ๐ถ but i don't like lists or labels that cause div. confusion & or harm{Pen is a good dude imho} but wdik/idk but i don't really matter 4 the future is on *U* youngrz but C probz w/sum bro. th@z y i engage/discuss & i hope *U* r cool with th@/
there will *B* botz +/- but who makes those lists/labels*/*ya
This is to avoid confusion. It's not a label applied to others. The creator of a bot can label it as such themselves for clarity, so people know what they are interacting with.
*U* made just 1 little one/r you ready{& understand}the ramificatIONz*/* i hav lifelong aversion from coercION th@ swayz my bias - so there is th@/
C i feel betr already just Cing th@ t *Y* & plEZE keep in the loop on reply friend - all the *B*est forward*****ima just stay in thIZ 4 my fam/*****friend ya/
You are misunderstanding Rand. This comment is about people being able to self label the bots they create. Not about labeling others.
I created this original thread to warn people of possible scammy behavior. I feel it was justified, and the user it was about has already committed to changing that behavior, and we have had real conversations. I think it's a win overall ๐ค
i followED your line bro & waz fine until i saw sum on your list but i get IT & don't doubt your good intention/i don't hav a prob w/bots but most don't have my focus or time/i t *Y* 4 yourz/*****
It wasn't a list of people who I thought were bots Rand ๐
it was a list of people I follow who I was worried had been taken advantage of by a scammer, and I was letting them know, for their own good. I think you misunderstand the intentions of my note.
I felt boniz23 was using strange tactics, and made this note to warn others. I wasn't saying everyone in the list was a bot ๐ In the time since boniz23 has agreed to stop said tactics, so I consider it a closed thread. All is well Rand, I wouldn't worry about it.
1 last thing 4 now Ryan, know th@ i am on yoursidE brother but wary of labelz even tho i know guidance is needED/
cool & i saw th@ also Y i waz & still on your side t *Y* aGAIN*****
Cool ๐ค
Good to know!
It's part of the kind 0 profile, so the npub has to give it to themself.
/\/icE*****2 C *U* & t *Y*/* *** ****@mmmmmh @lolz
@Laeserini do havE fr ?s tho Stella & t *Y* a+gain*/****
culd U or wood U share any public appearances @ events or pods etc. links?
^/ thIZ not a stalking thing luv/BIZ*****
ya/
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I would call if they were in China, because I could try to convince them why bitcoin is better than forex trading. I don't know too much about the UK except one fat scammer on Facebook who was the biggest lying slob I had ever met in my life.
Wondering how I made the cut on this #hellthread ? Is it because I follow so many npubs?
Reminds me of the LightX account lol
You see if everyone blocks and or mutes the scammers they come back under a new account am I right
@Uno ?
Not sure how or why I was following this npub but have unfollowed
Some times the bad actors slip through the cracks
Also I think WoT relays are stupid.
I really miss the scams I use to get...
Hello Sir, How are your investments going? I have a secret that has made me rich and I am willing to share with you. Have you heard of forex trading?
It made them so rich that they now they have to work to sell their methods to others. Maybe I was to ride to them?
Define rude.
Rude = waste their time by pretending to be interested in what they were saying, play dumb to make them repeat themselves, and turn the conversation around to try to sell them something they aren't interested in.
@npub13wfg...4fun is it odd to like responding to scam messages?
@โฟoniz23โก๏ธ๐ดโโ ๏ธ๐ฎ๐น I am also not sure what he is talking about since there are no receipts, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. I really doubt it affected anything.
have a ? regarding sum of your work/will U respond?
