It appears now that the enshittification of X is absolute and irrevocable – more than it has ever been in the past. It is the poster child for the dead internet theory.
To the bitcoiners who still spend more time there than on nostr, I have a very simple question: why?
Why are you clinging on to the last vestiges of your spent influence like driftwood? It’s over. The music has stopped.
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How are you witnessing that exactly?
1. The level of discourse has degraded considerably (if that can be believed)
2. Most replies appear to be bots
3. The “for you” feed is full of AI slop
4. Most of my “following” feed is people complaining that it has never been worse
Thank you, for explaining. Do you think Nostr is immuned to the bot replies issue? I feel like I am witnessing this here too.
When done doom-scrolling here, I check out Xitter. Somehow Xitter always manages to show me more and more and more ...
Nostr clients should also surface more notes.
Imagine willingly spending your time there with all the bots and psyops. Literally poisoning your brain as the powers that be duke it out on the global propaganda platform. Volunteering yourself as a test bunny directly plugged into the psyop machine
I'm not talking about the "for you" garbage.
They just want someone to tell them exactly what the price will do next, every hour of every day. They are lost.
Nostr is not immune, but there are web-of-trust solutions being built as we speak that will address this. I’d give it a few months
Im here, Im real, checkin in ✅
Notes and other stuff
I think there could be a couple of reasons why scrolling on nostr “ends” – 1. there’s not enough people (yet) to post enough notes and 2. you might not be following enough people
~10k DAU vs millions
And the bots are happy to oblige them
I'm mildly hesitant to follow too liberally as I want to avoid following bots and scammers.
Sure, there's fewer in total than on Xitter.
“Every single time the monthly GFY indicator hit this key level, bitcoin shot to the moon within 69 days. That indicator just signaled again!”
Right on!! Lessss go.
I don't even have it on my phone anymore.
Ok cool. Thanks for expanding on that. What are a couple projects you are keeping eyes on related to WoT?I feel like @Cameri🐦🔥 is one dude that made me aware there are some potential pitfalls with that too.
Try relay feeds.
Somebody I know is currently on a Cruise ship we are due to embark on Sunday.
He is posting photos over on X allowing me to live vicariously until we board the ship in 3 days time 😂
Somebody I follow on X, because of an Isle of Wight connection, is currently cruising on the ship we will be joining on Sunday.
Because of this, I am engaging and reposting his tweets.
He has his sights set higher, however, as he tags Cunard on all his posts and does not respond to me, his only, highly positive, but low profile engagement 😂

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Shameless plug for my startup @nosfabrica
There’s also Vertex and @ContextVM that are doing great work among many others
You don't have to use Twitter.
You can just ignore it.
That's what I do.
I follow a couple of interesting accounts that are still on X but block the rest of the feed. Here on Nostr I get more engagement despite having only 100 followers
Probably the fake engagement numbers keep them there
Great! Thanks for sharing. I really want to understand this topic and the workings of it better. As it's also important to solutions I am working on. What are the chances you'd be down to jump on a call with me sometime and let me ask you questions and explain to me like you'd a 9 year old? 🫣😂
But it was all engineered for this? It was almost intentionally destroyed. The app formerly known as Twitter was brutally butchered
This thought creeps up to me every now and then too. It's strange being aware that you are getting manipulated and brainwashed in some ways and yet a part of you engages with this shit. It's like failing the AA program again and again. Best to just delete the app.
The only winning move in the attention casino is to not play

Happy to. In the meantime, if you want, you can listen to this episode I did with David Strayhorn, who is an expert on this subject (and also a part of NosFabrica now):


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Just curious, do you see his posts in a timely manner? Are you confident that X is showing them to you when you want to see them?
I agree. Best to view it as a casino.
Yep. Come on the pod?
End of the day the toxicity is addidicting.
More and more pleb slop.. dont engage with the zionist fucks. Isreal posts will never stop coming in. What a scum show.
The last few days I was there, I tried to help users with cybersecurity issues, but something tells me that not even Elon Musk wants people to look for secure systems, because after doing that, my interactions and conversations suddenly disappeared and no one He spoke to me again.
before, the page did recommend artists that I followed, but also suddenly the only thing it showed me was how the UK spent its time arresting everyone for a simple publication and pure politics, until I gave up and simply decided to delete the account because, what's the point? Does it make hundreds of people follow you if no one pays attention to you or talks to you?
I tried to join a spaces the other day and it was a disaster. Also I noticed that my timeline isn't chronological anymore? It's just a bad product at this point.
Yes, that’s a new thing they did. They added a default “relevant” toggle to the “following” feed. The toggle to switch it to purely chronological is basically hidden
Fuckem.
I don't think I ever will. My follows are my filter. I'd rather like some more content they engage with, like through reactions.
Awesome.
Wazaaaaa Avi 🤘
So the feed that also shows peoples replies? Primal, yakihonne, amethyst all have that. Or are you already using that and do you just want them to be more active?
Anyway, saying you never will is silly, thats like saying you will only go to twitter dot com and never visit another website like a forum or whatever. 🤷♂️
Amethyst shows me my follows' posts, re-posts and replies but not reactions 👍👎.
I will never extensively use relay feeds as that's too arbitrary. I might like I sometimes doom scroll YouTube shorts but I would hate it for the same reason.
Depends on the relay and what its curation is based on, assuming it is curated at all🤷♂️
Neither I just click on his profile.
Because "they wouldn't survive without the reach they get there". Pure cope if you ask me
Happy to. Hit the DMs
They love to influence bots. All the data is boosted by them. When someone is mean on X, it's probably because it's an AI.
why? because nostr feels forced, empty of real conversation depth, a big circlejerk about how great it is, but also way too slow somehow.
Cause nostr is filled with only bitcoiners, no-one else
Let's be real even with all its flaws X is light years ahead of nostr and you are right nostr does feel forced. While the interfaces have greatly improved it just seems very ... Ah let me read the top 20 posts on the last 24 hours and ...
Its over when everyone stops mentioning it and crossposting garbage.
Because I have more interests than just Bitcoin lol.
You’re trying to reason with addicts. (I’m guilty too)
I have just Invested my net worth into Avi Burra coin on your recommendation.
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