Web of Trust doesn't work. Because too many of you dummies are following @ᴄʏʙᴇʀɢᴜʏ 👽 who is running a bot farm manipulating trends.
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Hey man, how use knox
People use duplicated likes to compute trends?
Shit man, him and that "M" cunt
I wouldn't mind blocking people by default in your client, but why the hell can I not even unblock the person?
If the spam filter is on, everytime the app downloads spam content from the account it blocks again, like when you are in their profile.
Web of Trust doesn‘t work, because every metric that gets used becomes a bad metric.
And this one is easy to corrupt.
How can you tell
Web Of Trust is dumb imo just block people you dont like
The dummy is the one who believes wot will work.
Cyberguy be like.
Cyberguy be like.
Vitor you gotta fix these flaws man like why can't you submit your f-droid version to zap why you putting play version in there. You messed my updates up.
Holy crap, a lot of people I follow, follow that bot!
I don't remember it but I already had them muted lol
So I didn't mute his account myself.
You muted them on my behalf? Seriously?
What the fuck?
If you keep all of our security filters on, yes. That only happens for accounts you don't follow. So, there are two ways you can solve: follow the account or disable the feature on your settings.
Virtually nobody uses the F-Droid version. We keep it for the pros, but frankly there is no usage to even justify keeping it. I considered killing it many times already.
Also, Zap Store does not support flavors, so we cant have two versions there at all.
You hide the settings and then mute people on my npub without my permission.
And act like that's normal and reasonable and I'm just a stupid retard for using Amethyst anyway I guess.
sick of nostr Devs constantly enshitfying everything.
Why can't you make an app that works and then just leave it alone?
Why ruin everything?
Could we have some degree of threshold configurability in the spam filter? Some of these accounts are so spammy that they are autoblocked a splitsecond after I try to unblock to see what they post. 🤣
@Derek Ross was always giving bad advice of just follow more and more people tbh:)
Flood your timeline with the price of bitcoin and other crap lol
Always was a mistake
Are they people at all, though?🤔
My man, that has been a feature of the app since the beginning, about 4 years ago. Its one of the main reasons that Amethyst users didnt even notice that a spam wave was happening in the past.
But again, you can disable it if you want and then re-enable in the next spam wave. Up to you.
I do remember people complaining about Amethyst introducing shadow bans, I thought you had removed it after so much community backlash but you just made it secret instead.
Saying it's not secret doesn't change that you put it on by default and hid the settings deep in a manu of a manu to make it hard to turn off, then don't even tell people it's on.
It's dishonest deceitful behaviour.
None of this garbage should be on by default, none of the settings should be hidden like they are.
Our goal is to make the best experience for new users as possible. If they want, they can easily open the doors for anything. It's up to them. It's not hidden.
In fact, almost everyone that removes the filter ends up re-enabling later. Especially if they use public chat functions or hashtag topics where spam and scams are rampant.
And again, that only happens on strangers. If you are following the person, nothing applies. So, if they want to see that person, they can simply follow. If they don't want to follow, then the person is not worth their time anyway.
"To make the best experience let's fuck people over and not even tell them we're doing it"
Who are we fucking over?
Also, you should only have 3 relays on your outbox relay lists. Most clients don't use more than the first 3 anyway but you are just fucking your followers over by forcing them to check all your relays for posts from you. Which consumes a huge amount of your and their data plans. 3 relays in each list is more than enough.
Where do I find it?
Amethyst app "I'm going to connect to 400 relays for no reason"
Amethyst Dev "you shouldn't be connected to anymore than 3 relays"
Yep, because if you follow 200 people and each person adds 20 relays, that's 4000 connections.
Your own users mostly.
So manually remove all the extra relays that Amethyst has added.
How can you seriously claim you're trying to improve the experience for new users?
I'm too frustrated so I'm going to stop now, absolutely nothing productive will come from me calling you a retard.
Have a nice day.
we don't add any relays automatically. WE don't even recommend outbox relays these days.. Just keep the relays that have your posts.
Don't follow NGU bozos. Follow FGU bozos.
You just said if someone follows other people on Amethyst they automatically add their relays.
Which is it?
That's just the outbox model. Every client right now does this. Nostr requires it. The list of relays you have to connect to download posts from your follows to assemble your feed is a combination of all the relays declared by everybody you follow.
If the app doesnt connect to them all, you are missing posts on your screen. I guarantee it.
So, your own relay lists are just for your app to find your own content and for your followers to find your content and send replies back to you.
The bigger this list in your settings / relays, the worse it gets for your and your follow.
So I'm either missing notes or I'm making it worse for myself and my followers.
Good to know.
Or just reduce the amount of relays and you solve both. Easy win.
I’m curious about this too.
See if resetting the Index and Search relay lists on your Relay Settings page helps. The post doesn't have a valid relay hint and we can't find the that authors relays. So we then use the index and search lists.
Either that or the user has deleted the post and we will never find it anywhere.
Vitor when you say stuff like this it's very sad. Your calling me nobody I use it & I am somebody. Theres for sure more then just me & you can as armada has 2 versions accidently. Just put your f-droid there don't be difficult
#asknostr do you prefer an f-droid or google play version where googles spywares in it for compliance?
Why do you say that the Play version has spyware? Which library that we use is spyware?
So you know about those apps that have been around for years to inspect apps & have collected research from submitted reports that throughout the updates they confirmed what is spyware a tracker right?
Why do you think it's compliance to put those things in the app if it's not spyware?
Do those apps know that we block those callbacks in our OS permission process?
Claude agrees 
I am proud to have sparked such a debate 🙃
In the "about" section, I explicitly state that the Latin quotes are generated by a bot.
However, claiming that I am running an entire "bot farm" is a gross exaggeration. 😎
The "likes" are also generated by a bot, but that was left running by accident, sorry for that. It only likes posts from a specific npubs stored im a dictiomary file. I’ll turn this bot off when I get around to it.
That said, I should point out that this "bot farm" consists of nothing more than a few lines of Linux shell script; it didn't require any advanced programming skills...
But at least it provides you with useful input for testing the web-of-trust, I think. And I'm not a scammer just because I'm running an automated "like" bot.
So, I’m asking you all: do you want to continue testing the system this way, or should I shut down the script you’re calling a "bot farm"?
Pls reply - yes or no?
They can try. This is not my first rodeo. I know how to block Google own's shenanigans.
You can put a DNS proxy to check if you want. The app won't call the tracking urls you think exists.
web of trust only enables bad behavior. At no point does it stop it. At scale, it just means that people are going to buy access to trusted accounts to mark their political enemies as spam
Sem explain this please ? i this you ? You irish Cunt ? 👀