Today I sent e-cash to a WiFi gateway to go online. "Here is 2100 sats. Give me internet plz"
...and it worked. And it will be open source. And it will run on all OpenWRT routers. 
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Wait, what!?
Looks like a good demo day 👀
🔥🔥🔥
This is probably the best product made with Bitcoin ever.
👀
Holy fuck
Were you sending the e-cash offline?
Good question
We need this for Casa21!! @Lucas Ferreira 🇧🇷⚡️ @jaonoctus
the router is the one to claim that e-cash, there's no need for the user to be online
Yes.
#YESTR
Correct.
Siiick.
Today I sent e-cash to a WiFi gateway to go online. "Here is 2100 sats. Give me internet plz"
...and it worked. And it will be open source. And it will run on all OpenWRT routers.
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Damn. Now that's cool.
Huge. This makes me want to contact local businesses and setup hotspots for them like I did 20 years ago 🤣 We have gone full circle.
Today I sent e-cash to a WiFi gateway to go online. "Here is 2100 sats. Give me internet plz"
...and it worked. And it will be open source. And it will run on all OpenWRT routers.
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What's the point? Why isn't WiFi access for free?
CooL 😎🤙
Sublet your WiFi for sats
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nothing’s free
Hear hear, Openwrt.
Sir, if this looks trivial to you and , if it won't take too much of your time, I pay for your advice and/or guidance in corn. 20k sats bounty.
I am in the process of setting up a new home network:
ISP -> DSL via TAE -> Zyxel modem -> dial in via PPPoe with a Gl.iNet AX1800 (Flint) Router -> Clients, wifi & cable
...and I have not yet failed to fail receiving data from the outside world.
Got this far, it does dial into the ISP (winsim), recognizes and fixes time discrepancies. But that's the end of it.
Last lines from the log after dialing in:
Renamed interface ppp0 to pppoe-wan
Using interface pppoe-wan
Connect: pppoe-wan <--> eth0.7
Remote message: [UI-SBR:280064,46016;UI-LINEID:WinSIM.2GJS6;]
PAP authentication succeeded
peer from calling number [REDACTED] authorized
- has a VLAN ID tag 7 you see, set in Router in pppoe config, not in the modem
- Ipv6 enabled
- Static ip6 set for router
- Firewall settings untouched
- all DNS discovery on default/automatic
- DHCP on default
When connecting to the router via wifi, clients prompt dns_probe_possible error when trying to look up a website.
Is it:
DHCP issue?
DNS?
Firewall zone?
...all of the above?
I'm a monkey who got himself a machine gun, starring down the barrel, pulling the trigger and wondering why nothings happening. Last time I did any of this must be 20 years ago, maybe once or twice, with a 56kbps... Ty 🤙
Fuck me that’s cool
🔥
Nice 🤙
Typically you’d have the VLAN tag set on the modem (assuming the ISP specified this) the router is on the “LAN” so I’d check that first.
Setting DNS on both modem/router to 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 will rule out any DNS issues.
Finally is the modem set to bridge mode? Can you connect a wired client to the Internet directly into the modem? ping and traceroute are your friend in this situation.
✅😎
Boom.. I so zapped that!!
WiFi, VPN, Tor routing... the possibilities are endless. 🚀
It's amazing how many things we don't pay for simply because paying for them is onerous
That sounds like a challenge
This is clearly incredible! Now can someone please explain 🙏😅 When/where would you use this? What is a Wi-Fi gateway? Yes, I searched Nodogsplash
Yes, I am still clueless 😂
This will be nice to see on those gl-inet mobile routers (they run some sort of openwrt)
Agree!
What 🤯
Love is
Am I seeing this correctly as a way to decentralize ISPs?
Imagine being in a free world without corrupt governments and having this on each and every trainstation and airport.
THIS IS AWESOME
Very excited to see this happening. I begrudgingly started on an OpenWRT package to do the same thing but pleased to see someone else get there first!
The first place you might see it is in cafes and hotels.
Eventually we might see communities deploy mesh networks to cover larger areas to earn sats this way. Imagine not needing a cell phone plan because you can pay as you go on these community networks.
congratulations! We are waiting
nature is
No one knows what it means, but it's provocative... it GETS THE PEOPLE GOING!
Thank you!
I have set the vlan tag on the modem.
I have set the DNS on the router.
I can't set the DNS on the modem.
I see in the logs:
You have delegated ipv6-prefixes but haven't assigned them to any interface. Did you forget to set option ip6assign on your LAN-interfaces?
Well... Maybe?! 😂 I have seen this error in the logs before but can't find information on how to do it. Are you familiar with this?
The wired client is another issue, I'm on Linux and pppoe isn't natively supported. It's a huge fuckery, another rabbithole entirely 😑 I'm rookie in this regard
Huge
There are shitcoiner trying to do this with no results… This would be great! To internet through money of Internet
Apakah ini wifi vouceran /RT RW net yang bayarnya pakai #bitcoin ( sats) ?
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LFG!
Check this out
Today I sent e-cash to a WiFi gateway to go online. "Here is 2100 sats. Give me internet plz"
...and it worked. And it will be open source. And it will run on all OpenWRT routers.
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Don’t know if I fully understand, but sounds awesome.
if you consider the energy cycle, not really :o
it is, you’re right, you win 🏆❤️
WHOA 😲🤯!! This is 🔥
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Decentralization is hard to measure. Infrastructure is usually tree shaped for efficiency. Large routing nodes occur for efficiency reasons in the lightning network. Large internet exchange points and large substations occur in the communications and energy infrastructure for similar efficiency reasons.
Something that's nice about TollGate is the optionality. No contracts, no KYC and no big commitments. Just price signals that allow supply and demand to answer the questions that central planners think they have answers for.
Would love to learn more about that package, maybe we can combine our efforts...
WTF 🤯 cooooooool 😎👍
🫡 can you show us the robes 🙏
Man, what a blast from the past... I still remember waaaaay back in 2012/2013 when half the bitcoin community was constantly talking about how to use bitcoin payments in pay-for-wifi-service that we could all install on a small router appliance and place in malls and starbucks to generate an income with. We eventually learned about the issues making that impractical, but that didn't stop every shitcoin under the sun from marketing their coin as the one to offer paid wifi hotspots.
What exactly has Nodogsplash solved to make this practical finally?
Without VPN, they can see everything
eCash is what makes this work.
😃
That's so cool!
Beautiful!
Woahhh so many questions
If there were a painting of our future, this would be one of the brushstrokes. Nice job.
So cool!!! 🧡 What’s the emoji for e-cash?
This is huge! We need this in every coffee shop around America!
Around the world would be even better 🥳
Right. So IPv6 is not yet widely supported, it’s been 25 years coming and STILL we use IPv4, so perhaps to keep things simple, remove/disable IPv6 support for now.
Order of operation;
1) Confirm connection to your ISP on the modem using your PPPoE credentials (username & password). LED lights confining the link.
2) Connect wired and wifi clients to the modem, confirm they both work with DHCP assignment from the modem. Manually set DNS on modem to 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8. You have a link to the internet that is working.
Assuming the above works, next step is to remove the double NAT problem between your modem and router. Few ways to do this, but will try to keep it simple.
3) Check the default IP range used on the DHCP for the modem and your router. Usually this will be 192.168.1.1 and may be the same for both devices. If so this is a problem.
4) Change the DHCP range on one of the devices. Use 10.0.0.1 as the alternative IP address for your router, leave the modem on 192.168.1.1. This solves the double NAT issue.
5) Connect the routers WAN port into a LAN port of the modem. Remember your router is needing a link to the outside hence “WAN” but your modem sees your router as just another client hence “LAN”.
6) Plug a wired client into the router. Can you ping the IP of the router? Can you ping the IP of the modem? Can you ping 1.1.1.1? If so your on the Internet.
Happy to help further if you need it - our time zones look about 12hrs different. 😎✅
What model is your modem and router? Sounds like you haven’t assigned the IPv6 to the WAN interface? Brand/models of your gear will help troubleshoot. :)
Altcoin be destroyed by ecash , soon ?!?
This is how internet access should work (instead of giving all your personal and payment info to a provider so they can charge you monthly for “unlimited” access and surveil everything you do online).
If it's a cycle, it's free 😉
Wow this is cool
I want this to exist.
Today I sent e-cash to a WiFi gateway to go online. "Here is 2100 sats. Give me internet plz"
...and it worked. And it will be open source. And it will run on all OpenWRT routers.
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@tolot one more reason to use openwrt
Is it already a openwrt package?
Is there some tutorial to set this up? Especially the ecash part. Would like to set this up in my home location.
This is actually a super hard problem to solve. The customer is offline, that's why he needs to pay for wifi, but which payment methods work while the sender is offline.
ECash is so beautiful with offline payments.
Today I sent e-cash to a WiFi gateway to go online. "Here is 2100 sats. Give me internet plz"
...and it worked. And it will be open source. And it will run on all OpenWRT routers.
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I didn’t get far yet and after seeing the work on NDS it’s probably better to swarm on that for now. I’d love to help in some capacity though!
Nodogsplash is just a wifi captive portal. Nothing special about it. Now that we have cashu and lightning Bitcoin can do the things that it couldn't do in 2012...
We are still looking for a way to accurately measure the user's data consumption, but there are also other open issues if you like.
Feel free to reach DM me if you need help setting up your router.
https://github.com/chGoodchild/GLTollGate/issues/1
I’ll take a look! I’ll be out the next several weeks but will pick it up in mid to late July
Gd nostr
Today I sent e-cash to a WiFi gateway to go online. "Here is 2100 sats. Give me internet plz"
...and it worked. And it will be open source. And it will run on all OpenWRT routers.
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I imagine this: the coffee shop could mint some ecash per selling, it should be on the ticket and if you want to connect to their WiFi just redeem the token related to your purchase.
### An index of #TollGateIndex related events on nostr
Yet another incomplete list. Feel free to publish an improved or updated #TollGateIndex if you are aware of #TollGate related events that belong on the list.
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One amazing thing I learned about (out of many) at the ecash conference
A router for sharing internet
Someone from India, living in a place with a lot of internet access problems, built a set-up where people can buy internet without having any internet in the first place. 1 sat per minute
He built a captive portal that you log into and the page says — I take ecash from this one mint, get ecash from there and paste it into this text box — you paste it in, hit enter, and you’re online
You’ve made an offline payment and voila, you're now online
There are many exciting Bitcoin developments happening but it's becoming more clear that ecash is a wholly different, complementary technology that does different things, including many things that Bitcoin can't do no matter how many upgrades it gets
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Sure! The project's name is @TollGate
Today I sent e-cash to a WiFi gateway to go online. "Here is 2100 sats. Give me internet plz"
...and it worked. And it will be open source. And it will run on all OpenWRT routers.
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