Here’s the thing… as a regular American does anyone really give a fuck about Israel or the Ukraine?
Because I sure don’t.
The steel man for the Ukraine is that using the Ukraine as our new forever war post Afghanistan is somehow a “good deal” for us because it bleeds Russia, allows us to update our military equipment and doesn’t cost any American lives.
IMO it’s just another way for a transnational security elite to wash money out of the American tax base.
The idea that Ukrainians are fighting for us is retarded.
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2 people who have me muted exchanging retarded takes
Here's the thing... Stop starving kids willingly
You're right. It's about bleeding the American tax payers
🎯 everyone dosnt need to care about everything all the time. the pressure and guilt that you have to support a side in every issue is a statist/social media megacorp psyop. it works shockingly well for duopoly structures and outrage factories but I reject both of those, so 🤷
Strange irony of an (18 year old) Ukrainian refugee, unable to speak English “accused” of committing arson on the prime minister’s house (and ex car). Seriously doubt he’ll be carted back home if convicted.
no one can state the national interest in these forever conflicts, because they only serve private interest.
ie. the Aristotelian articulation of tyranny, leaders seeking private good over common good, which is how the founders understood tyranny.
Forgot to include the article.


This. Fuck the war profiteers.
The Zionist entity is just the middle finger of the same empire that has undermined American sovereignty however it could since our inception, most notably since the advent of the Eurodollar system which, through LIBOR, undermined monetary sovereignty, after it'd already been hollowed out by the Fed (and previously Bank of England). Being defended at great expense by the American people both through taxes and immense reputational harm as much of the world justifiably isn't so fond of those who dismember their children.
As for Ukraine, I see no reason why we should be arming the rebel army against one of America's oldest allies (and one of Britain's oldest enemies). Bad enough we already carried out the Maidan Coup.
Yes.
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When the US started to push Ukraine towards NATO, the war started. And they knew that it would start. They did it anyway. And if the US did not support Israel, the Middle East would be a lot calmer. These wars do not benefit normal Americans in any way.
The same people:
- want these wars
- don’t like Bitcoin (as a medium of exchange), freedom tech, privacy and gun rights
- push ideologies that they know to be very harmful for families
- try to create conflicts between different races.
- label people, who ask questions, as conspiracy theorists
There is nothing American about these people.
Kinda the reason for "opting out."
Don't use (((their))) money.
You talk about higher moral grounds, global generational capital allocation but still live in your own village.
We all live in our own village, by definition.
In 2004, Germany's defense minister said of the "German role in Afghanistan":
"Our security is defended not only, but also in the Hindu Kush when threats to our country form there, as in the case of internationally organized terrorists."
every dumbass knows how wonderfull all this played out.
ask Sen. Lindsey Graham & Co. what's all about.
You may like to listen to this interview on the black nobility families who escaped from Rome to marsh lands (Venice) and how they’ve been pirating ever since. All been planned 120 years in advance. Thankfully they didn’t see btc, may be the Shift of Ages into Aquarius:
Even as a regular European I don't give a fuck either, so there is that.
Glad to know we are all on the same page 🤝
The media propaganda is quite strong.
America is under occupation by a powerful jewish elite class that has massive influence in our political system, finance, media, and entertainment. They successfully muddied the water so this fact is seen as a conspiracy theory when it’s just a fact. I mean imagine if our politicians were lobbied by an unregistered foreign group like China and they made them go kiss the great wall lol
They are highly organized and outspoken about their goals and who they are loyal to. People think that because many of them were born in the US that their loyalty is with us and not with their people.
All we get from the right is denial and dismissive comments if not straight up accusations of “antisemitism”.
The youth is red pilled, so there is hope I suppose
America is largely responsible for both of these conflicts. Hopefully Trump brings more peace to this world while he's president
A minority of people keep telling me that makes me a minority.
“transnational security elite” could you please be more specific on who these elites are.
Kahzarian mafia is taking back their Ukrainian homeland. (((Zelenski))) is their actor who brings in billions of dumb American goy bucks and the bonus is sending all white Ukrainians into the meat grinder so they can move back in.
Israel region has been like this since long before we were born. It's all those people know.
Ukraine felt like a farse immediately. Before Biden took office there was all that talk about scandal with his son over there. Of course something was going to happen.
Plus, look at the people with the flags in there yards and on their cars.
The lowest tier , most susceptible to media conditioning.
Peter Todd is a Ukraine stan? Now BS opinions on Bitcoin development make a bit more sense. I've seen a strong overlap between libtardians/lolbertarians and strong Core OP_RETURN removal respectoors
The nato military industrial complex broadly
The Canadian Prime Minister just bragged about Canada spending the most amount of money per capita on Ukraine.
Nothing against Ukrainians, I wish them well. I just don't care about what's happening over there, just like I don't care about what's happening in Bangladesh or New Zealand.
Fuck the war mongering swamp goblins
I barely care about myself
I care about Gaza and Ukraine.
Israel and Russia are evil.
Almost all Ukrainians are dead. And I'm on the conscience of all Westerners. By Biden by Macron by Vonderlayen by Zelensky by Boris Johnson. A war lost from the beginning that could be stopped as early as 22 with the Istanbul negotiations interrupted by the English. It's time to tell the truth! Putin doesn't want to invade anyone! And he never wanted it! He felt encirceded by the nato who used Ukraine as cannon fodder to enclose Russia. America would have accepted China and Russia that arm Cuba and Mexico???
Good point
The matrix needed a GDP boost.
needs a reboot
Isn’t it amazing how Ukraine started right after the US got out of Afghanistan
💯🫶🏻👍🏻
The very definition of “none of DC’s business”
The problem here is that DC is not America, but own American and can do whatever the fuck they want with “our money”
Those pushing “Good Deal” logic are only either 1) making money from the war machine or 2) idiots
Retardation is a Hell of a drug
You trade options, opinion discarded
Spot on .. anyone supporting any of the sides is actually supporting the war ! ... I can give you great logic for either side .. and keep on arguing till the end of time ..
Statist free-marketer, cogdiss at max level 😆
"Putin doesn't want to invade anyone! And he never wanted it!"
What? Did I miss something?
Oh, okay, sorry. Just another brainwashed and paid Russian propagandist spreading the hate here. Very sad.
At the very least it was pretty convenient timing.
I wouldn’t spend a dollar on either of those countries fighting each other and neither should the US government
Holly cow ! I don’t give a fuck .
let Mexicans & immigrants take 0ver America y the f*k u kick them 0ut,
fUking hyp0crate$.
21st century h0l0cast is gaza & ukraine funded by we$t f*ker$ talking business.
what U sow U reap. karma is destiny.
I give less of shit about how many zeros follow the dot in a Bitcoin.


Sad are those who do not document themselves or get pissed off by the propaganda. Putin did not want to invade Ukraine. There have been a thousand diplomatic attempts by Russia to prevent this invasion. But they were not listened to by anyone. In 2014 in Piazza Maidan there was Viktoria Nuland who financed the coup to send the neo-Nazis to command in Kiev! These since 2014 (financed by the Americans and the British) have started to kill all the Russian speakers of the Donbass. Russia has tried in every way to solve it in a diplomatic way but has never been listened to. The United (Democratic) and British States are responsible for all the unnecessary Ukrainian deaths that have been in these 3 years.
Yeah, he was meant to go fishing with his pals that day but you know how things can change…
I am European. In fact I'm Italian. And trust me, the Russians are my brothers. In history they have never done anything wrong to us. Never! What should I be mad at Russia? And that should I cheer for the Ukrainian Nazis? We Italians have always loved Russians and Russia. And we've always hated the English. The British and the Germans have always put them in bad trouble. Not Russia!
Yep, think many Americans felt similarly about that little skirmish in Europe sometime in the 1940s...
If we hadn't let Woodrow Wilson (arguably the most evil president of all time) get us into the first World War, we wouldn't have been dragged into the 2nd World War.
There is no strategic need to be involved in either war. It just ends up with more people dead & their living relatives blaming the U.S. for the actions of our proxies.
You jak off in mommy's basement to Ayn Rand books.
*Used to