What’s the sentiment on bitcoin nostr?
Core v30 or knots?
Or core v29 or older?
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Core 28.1
Not v30
I run knots, mine with ocean on my own datum server.
Knots for now. Luke wants CTV and was funded by Dorsey. Doesn't Dorsey fund Core too? sus
Let's get another full implementation and then some
Pre segwit
core v30
Feels good. Like the full sovereign package
pre-SegWit would prevent the use of the Lightning Network 👎
V30. Filteroors are delusional
Core v30
Knots. After seeing that fruitloop maintainer Gloria Zhao, how can anybody believe Core isn't captured?
anything but Knots 🤭
Sticking with old core until another compelling option is available
Knots because bitcoin is money not cloud storage.
Old school Core or Knots.
Theres a handful of old school bitcoiners that have an incentive to increase the op_return limits and a bunch of people that have no idea but like said bitcoiners and are caught in the middle.
—Its a classic “Chesterson’s Fence “ analogy.
Maybe it doesn’t do anything but thats no reason to tear it down.
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Solid argument.
/hat
Nice altpub!
Don't upgrade
Staying on 29
I’m still running 28… but at this point I don’t see the reason to switch to knots. I’d rather run core 30 which I’ll probably update to soon I think people have been misled about the argument between knots and core
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I'm ready to go all the way back to pre-taproot. This space is too shitcoin for me. Knots for now, or 0.20.x in solidarity.
29
I stand with you as long as it's not core 30.
I’ve offered nostr:nprofile1qqs0m40g76hqmwqhhc9hrk3qfxxpsp5k3k9xgk24nsjf7v305u6xffcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnjv4kxz7t9wgh8xef0nmtggn for an open debate and yet no reply.
Could it be he realizes he is the one to benefit the most if knots 🪢 succeeds?
One example below 🔻🔻🔻
https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsf0emr7pexwqjgqs8j7ryr9p3vhdaf3qs8r32ddygp8tzvl0d4mvsds0hzj
Knots
v29 seems like the best bet, IMO
Running Knots.
28.1
I mean Knots can evolve into a team structure to have multiple maintainers just like Core?
They could but I don’t see how it’s mathematically plausible.
Core v30
Based
Knots or v29
He doesn't strike me as very social.
I would hope so.
Got eeeem
Smart to wait a while. Hopefully it's nothing.
No idea. Just made a basic analysis.
The one of him facing the nameless faces representing #Satoshi #Nakamoto is probably my favorite. To dishonor the memory & gift of #Bitcoin …
#Satoshi and what they did will always be judged by the #blockchain ( hence the judge )
What's not "mathematically" plausible??
Right? 🤷
Knots
V30
Bitcoin core owns 95%
Bitcoin knots is less than 1 %
but that doesn’t matter
Luke owns #knots & if when he leaves ( humans die after all ) so would knots. It’s not logical choice based solely on him being the one owner.
Beyond that: Luke has used misinformation to guide his career & get others to buy off on knots. 🪢 IF people read the #Satoshi #white #paper & understood the #proofofwork & #scalability it’s already shown this would be a non-issue.
Note, many in #core ( or early #btc adopters don’t speak online ) are already living their best lives. #knots from my view is just another form of exploitation…
But hey, you don’t have to trust me … trust #Satoshi as their words already proved all that. 😂🤙✨
Wow …
👀 Friends : I’m bringing my #popcorn for this party 🎈. It’s literally a circus 🎪 and kind of fun 🤩
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Yes … Bitcoin core is known to be full of scammers 😂😂😂 ALL 95% of them 😂
But 🌹definitely 💯 some are #shittalkers
Will give you that.
Core v30
Anything not tied to Luke Jr.
Knots node share is over 20% now
Well this is new information for me. Oh well. They are destined to fail. 😂✨🤙
Outdated. Or maybe just wrong... Other clients at 4℅ is way too high.
This may be. FFS 🙈
I could actually make a reasonable case why knots could be good but they’re all such dumb unreasonable jerks.
I’m not gonna do it for them. Let them bury their selves.
✅anti spam
✅pro-devs
✅pro-options (Knots being one)
✅pro-do nothing
chill
Core v30 for transactions and knots for mining. Choice is good.
knots
Is this true? Let’s say they are 20% for arguments sake … I still don’t see them beating #core ever .
https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsx3yewvqzec0pvly098dvcfl2gxngwfu46jzzk7edkdqjjyr5x7hgjackld
I'm hoping we'll get a stronger bitcoin out of this. I care less about the specific arguments on either side than that there's a real possibility that bitcoin will actually look like a protocol in the future. A protocol is agnostic about specific clients. I don't think our work is done in this fight until we have at least 5 clients with credible node share each.
Stated my goals clearly earlier
1. Bitcoin standard as currency or we already failed ( cause we have IMO in #USA )
2. 99% rise and demand their freedoms from top 1%
Too simple but definitely idealistic
Cry harder
They can’t argue their case. Which is funny if I’m the only one speaking 🗣️ for core on here. Why? Cause the rest know it’s a useless argument 😂😂😂
I'd imagine at some point he's got no choice but to pull in another maintainer or something.
>> but this is maintainer status <<
So... it's gotta be someone who can impress Luke, line up with Knots, and actually know Core deep >> if it's even possible to convince Luke they qualify LOL
No honest person who looks at the facts thinks Core is working in the best interest of Freedom Money.
v29 and lower, Core or Knots. strong support to new peer reviewed client ecosystem with much much much more tight ethics and streamlining. heard something is brewing
29
Bitcoin Knots because Core devs act in bad faith.
They censored Bitcoin contributes just for mentioning CItrea, they attacked Bitcoin Knots node runners and they are absolutely dishonest about filters.
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#knots vs #core IF I were a federal government or ultra wealthy
& I wanted to keep #bitcoin #standard from adoption in the #USA …
I would #create something like #knots
Anything that keeps the 99% from uniting against tyranny rewards the ultra wealthy. Always has.
So it’s possible #knots is just a #government #op of some who believe in an #authoritarian #ideology or #world #leader
it’s also possible it’s a #psyop or #narrative #warfare from any country or it could be any of the ones below ⬇️ or the #Silicon #Valley #mob of #oligarchs
Does it matter to the 99% ? It should.
No matter to me. I’ve never had a decent president in my life.
That last picture I can’t confirm. But do like laughing at bald #Musk 😂😂😂
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28.1
core v30
When my bitaxe arrives (thanks nostr:nprofile1qyv8wumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wsq37amnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwvf5hgcm0d9hxg6tnw3exjcm59ehhyecqyrfawsfymha4hhrphrcc697rxddmknuvwyvz5d0wyuc55jdyada362dlwfh ) I will look into mining with Ocean or figure out how to translate/proxy to stratum v2.
Enjoy the wine 🍷 right 😂✨
v29 (I won’t support CSAM like the joos) on one of my nodes and knots on my other 2 nodes.
I'll keep an open mind. It’s not that hard to just not merge a contentious change. Core is basically asking for Knots to be relevant ... and if I’m Luke, I’d take advantage of that.
Maybe Core can’t be opinionated as the reference, fine.
But Knots is where some/most Bitcoiners line up. And like Tomer said, this is just the reality now ... Knots is here to stay if Core won’t listen. Core’s being questioned, and rightfully so.
We agree on questioning everything.
Its not about beating them.
Its better to have two dev teams creating software. It decentralizes the network.
More the merrier should be the ethos. The arguments arise from the disingenuousness of their argument.
As I see it, 3.0 is profiting from spam -or attempting to. Fine let them. Its an open protocol.
My gripe is only with the bullshit argument they put forward.
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Thanks for always speaking to me like I’m 6. Genuinely. 🫂🤗
“It’s not about beating them. “
Good answer, friend. That’s not how the argument was presented to me. When i did research others were basically saying that it was knots against core.”
“ It’s better to have two dev teams creating software. It decentralizes the network.
More the merrier should be the ethos. “
Cool 😎 but they don’t yet have the #POW nor the time factor #Bitcoin currrently has. Right?
The arguments arise from the disingenuousness of their argument.
Fax 📠
“As I see it, 3.0 is profiting from spam -or attempting to. Fine let them. It’s an open protocol. “
Here we go. 😂😂😂
“My gripe is only with the bullshit argument they put forward.
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Okay big brain 🧠 how can we use your tradfi experience to take down wallstreet? I said what I said 😂✨😎
It’s all so gay, not upgrading for about 5 years.
Its not about beating them.
-Knots doesn’t care about core.
-Core doesn’t like knots and it’s obvious when you see the ad hominem attacks.
It’s all good. Everything is fine.
The mere fact that Knots grew as quickly as it did shows a great immune response that Bitcoin is gonna be fine.
Leave it at that lets all sing Kumbaya
Core v30.
OK, but you have to call me queen if I have to call you, my Lord 😂😂😂
Dealio
Knots
debate blown out of proportion, designed to fracture the community.
Especially once people get labeled as "pdf" for supporting one over the other, you can be sure it's a psyop. It's one of the oldest tricks
Knots
Core 28.1 (no upgrade until dust settles)
29
Knots. And after examining many posts and threads in nostr, sentiment wise, I see overall Knots has more supporters.
I loved the earlier comment about going back to pre-Inscriptions era. Things have gone downhill since then.
Core 29.1 for now. Will eventually go to v30 core.
Knots for sure. Nobody wants to host a global image server for anyone with a connection and ill will.
Nobody is forcing anyone to update, old versions of Core still work while those at the cusp of updates work out which updates are better than others.
Knots and Core both have said things I agree with, I'll let consensus emerge before jumping to any conclusions.
Luke is actively supporting and encouraging more implementations. 100% Knots is not the end goal. Knots is the bomb shelter we’re all squeezing into until we rebuild.
v29
Manufactured drama.
BTCD!
not knots
29
I encourage you to read the code and verify for yourself. It’s not complicated code. I read the policy.cpp source code on GitHub and concluded that Knots 29.x uses virtually the same policy code as Core 29.x and adds a few filters that Core should have adopted to mitigate non-financial arbitrary data like inscriptions. Long-term, some of these filters would need occasional updates like a game of whack-a-mole if spammers keep changing their code (e.g. “tx.nLockTime == 21”), but the fact that a hack will be mitigated discourages people from doing it. It’s like locking your front door - that won’t stop a hardened criminal, but it will stop a lot of petty crime and encourage them to go to a different neighborhood.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/29.x/src/policy/policy.cpp
https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/blob/29.x-knots/src/policy/policy.cpp
its a requirement to be incredibly thick skinned to be a core or knots maintainer.
Not upgrading or knots
Knots
V30
💯
Knots
V29
knots but updated all filters to let maximum spam in
😅
Knots or V29 and older.
Results so far as of 2nd Oct 25:
Plurality for #Knots.
Among the 66 clear replies, 53% mention support for Knots (35/66).
Large “stay on older Core” bloc.
45% support Core v29 or older (30/66).
Smaller group for Core v30.
20% support #Core v30 (13/66).
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Knots is the signal!
I've switched from v29 to Knots in order to send a message.
Knots
V30 - I want a mempool that closest represents what will land up in blocks. I'll continue to ban knots peers.
Bitcoin Core undeprecated datacarrier and datacarriersize config options. Thought that means they bent the knee.
My sentiment is I’ll maybe update my node in 6 years
Knots and its not even about the OP Return. Its because CORE retards are greedy shitcoiners and super arrogant on the top of it.
What don't you like about Core 30?
knots
What is there to like about Core 30? I’m here for freedom money, not jpegs. I’m just casting my vote by running the node of choice. If you like core 30, run that.
I think it's an improved version, like all the previous ones. I don't think anything has changed with regard to the jpgs. Or at least you can configure it to be that way.
Let me guess, you don't even run your own node?
Hi nostr:nprofile1qqs0m40g76hqmwqhhc9hrk3qfxxpsp5k3k9xgk24nsjf7v305u6xffcpremhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet59uqs6amnwvaz7tmzwf3zu6t09uvashgd I’ll tell you what I don’t do is use sock puppets.
So the answer is No.
Sorry to say this, but you are the puppet.
The entire world we puppets to ultra wealth. I accepted that in 1983 and made a plan. No offense taken. Peace ☮️
*cough Monero *cough
Core 29, waiting to see unexpected outcomes of 30
Why in the world are you still swirling around Twitter? 🥸
Now I choose knots
I’m way back in versions. Just me and some other curmudgeons back here. I like it