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Constantin 4 months ago
When I said I mind my own business, I didn't imply that I own a business. That's why I use 🍻 instead of 🥂.
They themselves aren't really accepting bitcoin. It's a third party in between and they won't end up holding bitcoin. And with a need to use specific wallet, it's more annoying than just buying gift cards from places like bitrefill
Aside from them not HODL’ing it, is it just a case of hype behind bitcoin, or is it a real-world use case that shows the argument that bitcoin has the lowest transaction fees of any monetary network out there?
Or maybe it's more like supporting business that take crypto, but only accept bitpay or coinbase wallet transactions through that respective partner.
Because I don't see it as a win. It's essentially image the same custodial and KYC Bitcoin liquidation service that PayPal just announced. Sheetz has been using this for years and it's not new.
I'm sure it is cheap on processing fees for Sheetz because Flexa is already holding the customer's Bitcoin. They liquidate it and send Sheetz fiat. The only transaction fees for customers appear to be moving their Bitcoin onto Flexa.
Not sure of the economic term but in the case of this it doesn’t seem like a move on Sheetz part to acquire bitcoin but as more of a marketing tactic to get more influx of “crypto” users to use their crypto, for which their motive is unclear to me. Assuming they want a profit from it are they receiving some kickback from Flexa, or is it to save them transaction fees? Either way it’s a move towards using it more as a means of transaction which is still exciting
Sheetz for sure saves on transaction fees. Flexa charges 1% fees when converting customer Bitcoin to fiat for Sheetz. Don't know if there is a spread on the conversion, but that hits the customer not the merchant. Sheetz is not receiving or holding any Bitcoin AFAIK. I'm sure Flexa is covering some of the discount here since they have to now compete with Paypal's newly-announced similar merchant product. And this will get them some new customers. S
It normalizes Bitcoin as payments that much more. It doesn’t matter if each specific instance of bitcoin acceptance is up to some fake maxi standard. Retarded to not be able to see the win here.
I'm not arguing against that and thank you for recognizing my retardation. I'm skeptical of this lasting and of the ease of doing so. It sucks when people try to test out bitcoin and this is their first interaction and can put people off. Done right, great. Done wrong, not great.
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SatsAndSports 4 months ago
Are there any systems for businesses where a *single* machine can accept all forms of payment (fiat and bitcoin)? Or do businesses still need to have a separate device got the bitcoin?
Yes. Here is the note about that from the FAQ on our home page: Can I log in with my Nostr account? We have carefully designed Rizful for maximum security. At the same time, we have found that too many Nostr users have poor security practices with their private keys. (For example, entering private keys into many websites and apps.) Since real money is involved, we don't allow users to login via Nostr, and we don't ever ask for your private Nostr key. A combination of email/password, plus optional two-factor authentication, is the battle-tested and secure way to protect your Rizful account. This also means that, if, in the future, you make a mistake with your Nostr keys, your Rizful account won't be vulnerable.
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S!ayer 3 months ago
Dumb AF. These people will literally hold the SATs, then sell it to a fund or treasury. Then that's it done. And what, you bought fucking groceries? Honestly, if you do that you deserve to lose your wealth.
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S!ayer 3 months ago
They're just getting the suckers
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S!ayer 3 months ago
Yes, because if some fool doesn't buy at 120k, how will my bags fly?
Sure, I will agree, for technically savvy users -- developers, etc., that a private key might be a better approach. The issue is Normies -- people who have never touched a private key, and don't really even have "a place to put it". The issue isn't just "security" -- the real issue is "I have this account with sats somewhere and I can't remember what the website is called or how I get back to it or what my password is." This is EXTREMELY common. Everyone knows the solution to this is to search their email for the right keyword and BAM -- there is the confirmation email from the service. Then you go to the service, do a "password reset" -- and you are back in. If the user has not enabled 2FA, then you are completely right, a user can be hacked by someone gaining control of their email. But I submit to you that this is not the usual problem. The usual problem is "how do i get back to the website where my sats are stored, I can't even remember the name of it." I expect that 75% of Nostr developers and Linux users will vehemently disagree with me on this issue.
The other issue is this -- I am technically savvy, and when I FIRST joined Nostr, I mistakenly set up multiple separate private keys on different apps, and got fully confused, and then had to start over again. If I had started my journey by ALSO locking my satoshis to the first private key I ever generated... I would have been very sad.