i deleted my x account 2+ years ago and went nostr only i am back on x now, the bitcoin discussion there has devolved and i think i can add value despite (some of) our efforts we have failed to move the majority of bitcoin discussion here i will remain active on nostr, the tech is awesome, it is needed more than ever, i will continue to try my best to increase adoption if you want to make me your enemy to motivate yourself to make nostr better, great, do it

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Allison 5 months ago
What a dick. He’s a reason why socialism continues as a popular idea amongst the masses.
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El Guirri 5 months ago
The discussion used to be better here. I've found that I don't see most posts from people just on primal and that started last year. Whatever caused that seems to have killed good discussions in my feed
I never left x but I was suspended for quite a while, and Nostr was my only way to communicate with the world. I use that lesson that me, @AilliA, @Howard Chu @ Symas, and many others have learned that we need alternatives to protect us from centralization. I hope that you continue to use your influence to share information about the tools that keep us free 😎🙏.
Oops, meant to react with 🔥 not 😅 Some new user influx around these parts would be welcome. Let us know how feel of Twitter has changed with all the tweaks they've made to the algo
bitcoin doesnt need twter. next time elon pumps doge on the homescreen and shadow bans you for posting about nostr well, you can say to yourself, at least this only cost me 11k sats/mo to be humiliated and drive more traffic to this dying platform.
I've never understood the nostr-only strategy (rather than a mainly-nostr one, since you can use other platforms to drive traffic to nostr), but I think X is sort of melting down into bots, spam, and idiots asking grok stupid questions. Most of the people who post there don't look at their replies, anymore, as it's so much trash. It's just a place to post your own stuff, really, like a board. A free website.
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Humility 5 months ago
X sees bitcoin as a stock trade or digital capital, not per to peer cash. They're chasing fait gains. Im sure some will be able to see the forest through the trees
Odell himself caused it, by making Primal a centralized service that isn’t really a Nostr client but a proprietary service that scrapes Nostr for data. I generally do not follow anyone using Primal, and urge them to immediately take their nsec to another client.
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Toby McMann 5 months ago
Life success results from the wisdom of knowing when you can control a situation, and when to let go of things which you cannot. Which is this?
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Btcwrestle 5 months ago
Seems like the X conversation has been dominated by treasury company tradfi bros and the knotzis this cycle. Obsession with NGU has created a culture of USD cucks within the Bitcoin community. Need to steer the convo back towards the cypherpunk roots. No KYC and transacting p2p is the way. Those are revolutionary acts. Without an emphasis on this, the conversation on X will continue to degrade and become gayer and gayer. Hopefully you can move the needle on X in the right direction.
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Allison 5 months ago
Omg you’re like the coolest smartest best person ever!!! When are you going to move out of mommy’s basement?
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umni 5 months ago
The careful of those who tell you what you want to hear. The strength and Bitcoin comes from speaking out when unfashionable or inconvenient. Without anonymous accounts truth can be smothered.
i'm with you. we need nostr maximalists keeping a foothold on X to help bring folks over here. it never made sense to me to completely cut off the legacy socials when they are full of the exact people we want to show the way to the promised land.
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El Guirri 5 months ago
Dunno who, what or why. Don't care to finger point and have seen the opprobrium. It's just there as what appears an obvious situation that people should maybe meditate on. The only way centralization and protocol destruction will occur is better clients that are easy to onboard people to and people onboarding others but schisms will diminish adoption so erm well done all!
> schisms will diminish adoption so erm well done all! Will they? The largest phases of adoption had people basically not criticizing Primal at all. Full koolaid mode. Primal, despite soaking up all the capital, got a very lower user retention rate. It was primarily focused on turning Nostr into a Lightning-based zap microeconomy so that people receiving LN investments could pretend that LN adoption is healthy, and LN is generally a disaster that nobody likes to use. Amethyst is now the most popular client on Android, and given the fact that far fewer people have ever been onboarded to it, it likely has orders of magnitude greater retention rates. Letting Primal get away with its shit for so long with no public criticism has been to the general detriment of Nostr, and, to my eyes, hurt growth and adoption greatly. Also, people like drama. It’s entertaining. Before all the conflict I would log on every day and see people jerking off about how great Saylor is (he’s a worthless subhuman jerkoff and I hope he gets raped to death) and I would logoff. It was only until people started calling out the scammers that I found Nostr worthwhile. Funny enough, that’s when Odell decides that Twitter is better suited for him. It’s certainly a better environment for him to grift. White society is based on intense public criticism and debate. From the Nordic-Germanic concepts of flyting and senna to the Celtic-Greco polémique, our civilizations are founded upon talking shit.
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El Guirri 5 months ago
Sit back, was ch the memes and see how things evolve. At the end of the day, it's a protocol not a platform
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Allison 5 months ago
Your feelings are dumb. Taking advantage of people is bad person mentality. Bad people make others want to use force for good.
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Btcwrestle 5 months ago
Atms are shitcoins. Try robosats, bisq, or a local meetup.
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Allison 5 months ago
I’ve left the platform and he didn’t charge 50k for my account. People that think immoral behavior is okay because that’s “freedom” are as bad as commies.
I for one am a big fan of Odell back on X. I could go into all the debates on whether deleting an account is worth it, about network effects, etc. path dependence. But people want to be where they want to be. And Odell is welcomed where he wants to be, and does good work wherever he is. And you know how I know it’s really Odell on X? Nostr and social graphs, is how. 😉 View quoted note →
You can only do that because so many of us go out of Nostr and bring information in and advertise Nostr elsewhere. If everyone was only-Nostr, nobody would ever find this place and Nostr would implode for lack of information. Social media needs conduits. Even X can't survive without linking in and out to other social media.
You gotta do what you gotta do. Internet stranger opinion don’t mean anything. Frens understand and support anything you do.
the only healthy way to use that cesspit is to post and run. don't browse or engage with anything. it's a one way trip to delusion and unhappiness
Since you started funding shitcoin core devs and coretards like gay @calle, you damaged bitcoin more than helping it and going back to X won't improve anything. It has more to do with integrity than anything else at this point. If you don't correct the course, you will likely become one of the major factors behind the COMPLETE FAILURE of Nostr.
you cutie of a muscular warrior with an infinite obsession about other men might actually be the gayest person i’ve seen on nostr
I don't know how many times @/dev/fd0 proved that nobody is gayer (& incompetent) than you in the whole bitcoin community. By the way have you ever met anyone in your entire life who can fuck you as good as @/dev/fd0?
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Allison 5 months ago
Was it mommy or daddy that didn’t love you? Both?
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SWIM 4 months ago
Wouldn't be a Trojan horse move sensible? Install and evolve an account to a completely unrelated topic and when there is some milestone like 10k followers, just 3-4 posts promoting the switch to nostr and then go nostr only, rinse repeat? I mean its even easier to commercialize on nostr, no?
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