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I can't see this note because I muted wss:/
This is some next gen shit right here
View quoted note βFaster running?
Dumb Relay era Ended Today.
since Reply/Guy fucked public #nostr relay so hard and gossip model on client made it worse with every spam note being forwarded to other relay over and over.
Now now, it's time for Smart Relay.
#siamstr
genius
but now you will never see messages from people you don't know already?
No you would still see new people because it includes the people you follow and everyone they follow
Is it because replyguy? If so you could use a different expression like "on wss://" and "from wss://"
Thank you!
Iβm gonna do a
@HiveTalk later on & try n set it up while screen sharing n see if any devs r around to help walk me thru it
This could be an interesting feature for a local relay like Citrine
@greenart7c3 for caching purposes β notes would load very quick and would save bandwidth too.
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Does it blast notes as well?
You wonβt be able to welcome any noobs until someone in your network follows them though
he changed the algo so people updated their filters, it was more to alert utxo of the irony of people filtering what may solve their problem π€
I think itβs better to filter client side. For example, I can browse my feed using Coracle with less spam notes because of WoT, but I can easily hop over to another client to welcome noobs.
Is it possible to run this on
@Umbrel βοΈ over Tor?
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hmm. i have the perfect domain for this π
Nope no blasties
Tag me when u do
Saylesssssssss
Lokal funktioniert es auch super mit Docker. Much love <3
this is nifty!
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Ok no pew pew. Added β
ohhh
Protect this man ^
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It's not really a big issue in Amethyst.
Added this as my outbox, inbox, global and spam-safe relay on
https://github.com/mikedilger/gossip.
I don't have a relay with my own WoT, so I rely on dWoT (delegated web-of-trust). I also use 140.f7z.io, which is filtered by
@PABLOF7z's WoT.
Cool!
Added!!
At least add a home page to this thing, if I try to open it on a browser it I just get a standard 404 message.
Argh that involves css tho
Thatβs funny.
@david and I are working with
@cloud fodder on a similar project right now β¦. Something in the aire.
Hey
@utxo the webmaster π§βπ» β¦ so like, SOME people I follow are prolific followersβ¦
How does your relay keep bots and bad actors out of the follows follows list?
Do you do any additional calculations β¦ or naw?
It doesn't calculate anything more. It counts on you to follow quality people
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So Iβm guessing the way bitvora works is I run my own bitvora WoT relay, use only that one relay, turn on global feed in any client and I see content from my follows + their follows- is that right?
Kinda a cool idea. We could do that, but with lots more options.
Yep it can work for global or follows only.
I follow about 1500 people and my network is about 55,000 people after the graph populates, so pretty sure I'm catching almost everything on one relay
This would be an alternative to the NIP-51 list export.
Have a simple control panel with a dual slider for the Grapevine WoT score, to set the max value and min value. See only content from users in that range. π€
Thatβs a LOT of βtrustβ β¦
Is there a setting for me to see follows + their follows + their follows? Or N hops?
Dammit david!! Not even built the first two use cases and already someone comes along and suggests another!!
Good thing we have
@cloud fodder on our team with a whole bunch of relay.tools to play with!!! π
Haha yes the possibilities are endless!
But they will all use the core library weβre working on right now! π€
nice. relay added
do you use coracle as your daily driver?
is that library FOSS?
Yup. The algo is similar in some respects to PageRank, but with a few very important changes. Itβs implemented right now at grapevine.my but itβs embedded in react, so weβve just started the process of rewriting the algo as a standalone js library. Might do other languages after that, havenβt decided yet.
Hereβs a geeky overview of the grapevine algo where I draw comparisons to PageRank and make the case for the differences between PageRank and βGrapeRank.β Specifically, why the introduction of a nonlinear term is unavoidable.
Habla
The GrapeRank Equation: Notation and Terminology - david
concepts, terminology and notation used for expression of the GrapeRank equation, according to the grapevine method
In the future there will be a faster than fiatjaf index to replace GitHub stars as a main matrix to measure developers performance
Nah. I mostly use Damus and my fork of Primal.
NotPrimal
Unleash the power of Nostr
Do you think you can fix the bug where Primal always adds an extra space before every tagged npub?
Iβll can look into it tomorrow
What did you change in your nostr fork?
I mainly forked it cause thereβs a major bug that makes the site unusable for me with this account and theyβre not responding to issues and PRs. So I fixed the bug, made the like button a π€ instead of β€οΈ, and made it possible to zap with other wallets besides Alby.
I was also working on displaying the actual emojis used in reactions, but ran into an issue
View quoted note βWho said it has to? Just take a screenshot of
@fiatjaf's complaint and make it the home page
Si, de echo el wot relay esta hecho con eso
π GrapeRank π
This looks pretty good but I am currently unable to read the mathematics part.
Why? It doesn't have to. Not even HTML, you can do plaintext like
https://labour.fiatjaf.com/ or
https://countries.fiatjaf.com/I'm just a dumb welder but I can spin up a landing page with chat GPT in about 2 minutes. There really is no excuse anymore.
Honestly β¦ I needed a personal walkthrough to grasp it for myself β¦ but thatβs prolly just because Iβm dense.
Maybe we can do a live stream presentation of the GrapeRank mechanics at some point β¦
@david ?
Feels like Vexl
Iβd be happy to do that. Might work best to have someone else as host who can ask questions as I attempt to explain how the math works and why it is what it is.
Right now Iβm writing up the idea of the βgrapevine worldviewβ which lets you visualize the sources of information (follows, mutes, lists, notes, etc) and how they are processed in multiple stages by the grapevine to provide answers to whatever questions we are interested in. That may help to clarify why the grapevine WoT score needs to function as a *weight*. By weight, I mean: how *loud* is someoneβs voice on some given topic? We want to screen out the bots, but we donβt want to make it a popularity contest, and the math is chosen so it strikes the right balance.
ps I'm faster than @fiatjaf
