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why do you think we came to nostr exactly? π€¨
don't forget the βΏ and send $ lol
I had the same idea as you a couple years ago but never did it because it was a pain (without AI). But now after doing a cross-platform app, why is this flow not better? iOS here, but the same flow exists on Android. Both systems have a built-in password manager. There's even a navigator.credentials API that woks in Chrome.
Kids don't eat shit they don't like.
It is better but nostr would rather everything be shitty and broken
Why π
We already have plenty of burgers but what about the people who want it covered in cheese? We need a solution for them too
Maybe wisp isn't for nostriches
"Don't hate on the restaurant bro, at least it's actually making burgers; where's YOUR restaurant?" ππ
Fries = "pv gfy π€"
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The thing is, you want to use your key in many apps not just in one
You can do that with these password managers. You can back out and choose a different app.
Indeed. Kids are better people lol!
Omg this for real??
My Wisp is still working with Amber as far as I can tell, just checked it out...
Cool. But would that private key be accessible to the app? If so wouldn't that be a bit risky? Like for example an evil/buggy app exfiltrating the key, or if used in a web app be susceptible to xss? Remote signers solve that attack vector
For now.
Sounds like utxo is planning some changes.
I'd expect next release to drop it.
No. He's saying - when you're ready you'll be fat already π
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That's a burguer?
What in the slop? Why?
Is this storing the "nsec" or an "ncryptsec" in the password manager? If there is a navigator.credentials in the browser id love to find a standard ways to load nsecs out of it.
If the app needs the full nsec I would rather it store it in the password manager than localStorage :)
@utxo the webmaster π§βπ» I meant the burger....ewwwww
Wisp - the client for fatties and thicc mama's
This is hilarious, but is Amber support is gone fr? Why?
I don't think newbs will use it
You are right.
She definitely decided to just eat fries for dinner.
The fries are Amethyst.
Yea, looks like Ill be going back soon
Ball busting aside. The real question is, can you remove enough of nostr to make it normy friendly without destroying the value of nostr?
I don't know the answer.
Or Ditto. At least primal never tried to denominate sats in dollars. HERESY.
Nostr is only good if everyone can do whatever they want and cannot be stopped, that's what nostr is. It isn't a collection of remote signers and local relays :wisp_cowboy:
Likely true. I'd love to still have that option though if you wouldn't mind sneaking in an "advanced login" button somewhere π€
So now if I want to use wisp with amber I can't anymore?
What is WISP?
you could do both, up to you
the problem with navigator.credentials tho is that the credential would only work for one website, you can't port your nsec
Maybe create a backup for the keys using email?
Honest question, do you think what we have built so far over the past few years is working so well we shouldn't try any new approach?
I do think the way you implemented the Google auth is really cool, but removing amber support is just a dealbreaker. So what, the options now will be nsec or google? Because normies?
Those are the options of wisp now, of course there are tons of client options. I bet you didn't start on nostr day one using amber right? What's so bad about making a client that optimizes for new user experience?
No, I was just putting my nsec in every app and then I stopped because its a horrible way of doing things lol
Youve gotten some pretty significant pushback against this, I hope you reconsider because I really dont want to find yet another client. And nostr certainly doesnt need another Primal
I'm getting pushback from all the people who liked nostr and stayed. I'm interested in the opinions of people who tried nostr and left
And @ODELL paid for that. Coincidence? π§
I feel like chiming in. "Working so well" implies a goal. What's the goal in your eyes?
I think it works just fine. I'm happy to see normie focused stuff, by my main reasons for using nostr, that my voice is provably me and that I can't be censored, are working as intended. People can try any approaches they like and I wish them well.
My goal is to not have 99% of humanity use big tech, censored platforms controlled by American billionaires, not to have a little hangout for cypherpunks to chat
That's a broad niche to target marketing at ser :wisp_lol:
What are the specific persona you're going after? Age, gender, interest, location, problems they have, etc...
People who use the internet
Gonna get expensive π
It's very difficult without creating an advertising system.
So youre making Primal. Great
And what are you making? Nothing? Just complaining? Great
the beauty of nostr. a client for everyone. In response Amethyst just dropped a complete overkill (love it) and Primal is for the Influencers and people who need a trending algo or seek attention. I love nostr.
Poor girl just wanted a Burger
Now more than ever, they can quit complaining and build their own client or GFT.
Iβm building a restaurant app on Nostr and the restaurant owners log in with email / password. At a later time we will add extension support but right now Iβm more interested in building a marketplace for restaurants and diners with the right foundation (aka Nostr).
False binary IMHO. It doesn't mean we should try *all* the new approaches.
You have an audience of people who think in black and white and any trade-offs that damage sovereignty we'll be squawked about.
That cheese thoβ¦I mean is it Cheese Whiz?
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1.09 is LIT!
Pretty happy with it actually.
But build what you want to.
That's a whole genre of burger called gratin if a local Colombian burger place is anything to go by. But their burgers are actually appetizing. This comment has nothing to do with wisp btw I just think that cheese looks terrible π¬
"You can't criticize a restaurant unless you own and operate a restaurant." Said no one ever π
Average wisp user
Adding Google might be good idea for people using Facebook that don't get it and don't care (they would just stay there and on Twitter then...)
And why remove good feature like external signer which is safer and can work offline ?
Weird decisions I'm confused.
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I don't understand, dropping Amber is a potentially good new approach? Adding other sign-in methods makes sense but dropping Amber will alienate customers and I don't know for what reason. What's bad about Amber?
Both goals are good. Do whatever the fuck you want. It's not your job to please everyone. I will however speak up when something is inconsistent, like the idea that you have to remove Amber support to reach a broad audience. But maybe it is what you need to do, I just don't know why you assume we know your reasons.
Like what the fuck did you expect?