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This will not stop.
I'm not even trying to be a dick. But I'm saying Apple is an oligarch, and they will not tolerate any threat to their empire. House rules.
I said the same thing. Maybe i will have to do an official appeal
When will you guys learn? Apple is a bully and will keep blocking software which encourages freedom. Its literally in their business model of building an Apple ecosystem: apps which allow 'freedom' allow people to escape the 'ecosystem'.
Please, for the love of god, throw your iPhones away and get a GrapheneOS phone. You'll miss nothing. You'll come to love being free.
Apple is a shitcoin.
So frustrating. Keep pushing. You have our support.
It saddens me seeing how you have to waste your time and talent trying to satisfy the wishes of the tyrant. Do you really have to go through them to be successful in your mission?
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When Damus on Android?
#damus #zaps #android #apple
I know this is frustrating. Don’t let it get to you.
Apple 🍎 stop playing
I don't believe that it will ever be a way to keep zaps after Apple noticed the app.
Even Brave Browser had to remove their ads rewards program from the iOS version.
I know, people love Apple, but it is time to think about #freedom in your mobile, in your desktop, in your router...
oof
Highly regarded. 🤡🌍
Can't sideload on iOS, it's a very restricted environment.
I’m looking at how bitcoin ‘tips’ are integrated into Twitter iOS - I see that when someone has it setup in their profile, I can tap and copy their bitcoin address, but no app linking to wallets.
Looking for other instances or types of tipping but this is what I see.
Change to the same? Tap and copy profile lnurl or address in Damus?
:(
Wtf apple. Chineses fdptas
Braindead Apple at it again.
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The grift never ends.
I already called they weren't going to accept it.. it was kind of obvious..
Sadly I am not surprised. Apple still sees the modified zap flow as the same thing since you can still initiate it from a note. I still can believe Apple let zaps slip through in the first place.
There will be no winning this ☹️
Want freedom for phones; get Android
Want freedom for PC; get Linux
All I can say is Apple
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I dont know how to buy digital content with the damus app. Can you explain how this works? I only see the ability to make donations and tips.
There is a quote from star wars;
Resistance is futile. 👽
The only way they will allow this to work , is if every Lightning tip, 30% went to apple. And that wouldn't work either. Better just get on board with android.
So nothing has changed?
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At least there's lots of web based versions of Nostr such as snort. So If you don't have the funds to get an android, you can just use a browser version. Also you can get androids with great battery and camera on Amazon. Brands such as Blu, umidigi, etc.
Well said!!
You should contact them, apparently they have already marked #[2] on a list and they are not reviewing the changes that have already been corrected.
Take the PWA route. This won’t stop.
forbidden fruit 🍎 #[1]

He can change the lightning bolt to a profile image to better represent that you're just going to a profile page
Hmmmmm! Who plays the devil’s advocate?? It’s clear, Apple wants its share of the cake!!

They gonna keep making your life harder
Reading this I hear Tim Apple saying: “Just one more thing…”.
FFS
Crazy!
Return the app to how it was before that update and let apple go
You didn't really think they would let you get away with it, would you? 🥲
Would hope you wouldn’t need to, but it really seems like either they have an agenda and are trying to find rules to apply, or they just simply don’t understand how this works.
Could be a bit of both.
Ok. Bye Apple
Wankers
You can continue to try comply with the overlords to find out you can't over and over again, or you can start working on alternative more open solutions where overlords have no power. Brutal reality unfortunately. Time to thave low time preference also on your shiny phones.
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Do not use apple
Sell your iphones and get android
They want a 30% cut on all my content? Paypal only takes up to 15%. LOL Nostr without zaps⚡️is not fun at all. Its the killer app!

Why? Why continue to buy and use the products of a company that obviously hates you? Don't forget PWA's on iOS are locked to Safari 😂 who says they don't fuck with that in the future...
Probably a naive/stupid idea but how about:
- Add in-app purchase for 1000/$1, 2500/$2 and 5000/$4 "tipping tokens" (sats), respectively.
- Enable the function only if LNURL is configured.
- Auto-generate withdrawal url + invoice as post-purchase hook
- Damus gets to profit on diff on the exchange rate (minus apple cut)
- Apple gets their cut
- Apple requirements formally fulfilled
Brb going to swap phones and install grapheneOS. Fuck apple.
I thought about that. Just need a way to integrate with a bitcoin exchange? Then other guidelines comes into play i think
Or azteco, that's exactly what they're offering.
Could be easier with azteco, because you're just redeeming a voucher, you're not touching any exchange.
Maybe can hire the Wagner Group to land in the middle of Infinity Loop and overthrow Cook? 🤣🥸
Okay, maybe getting an Android phone is easier and cheaper.
Every dirty trick will be used to cut people off from better alternatives, no matter how innocuous.
I don’t believe that. The reviewers would just think its from damus users.
Yea, the best way to change their tune is to harm their income. Give your attention and money to better alternatives 👍
Depending on where you live the Librem 5, Fairphone 3+, PinePhone, or any de-googled phone that can accept GrapheneOs or LineageOs would help move away from walled gardens.
Wow’ 😯 Really??
I don’t they would even accept that. Their request is for me to remove zaps altogether. Which is already different than my call with them previously.
Build a web version and distribute as a progressive webapp 🤟
@Beautyon do you think azteco voucher purchased via apple fiat wallet will appease the apple reviewers?
Belgium and Ireland just made Bitcoin exchanges / wallets illegal it seems. So you’re doing something right. Also Apple trying to launch their Apple Pay card in India…
You think Damus is best because you don't have an Android with Amethyst? Or you've tried both extensively? I think the closed, gatekeeping, systems Apple loves is gonna bite them in the ass in the long run. Open systems win, IMO.
I use chrome. I’m I don’t think apple hates me, but it would give me more options. I’m a libertarian and a capitalist.
For most at this point even a Google enabled Android phone is a better option. You can always sideload apk and reinstall with something less Googlefied down the road. A step in the right direction is better than boot licking.
I tried Amethyst in my mothers phone an user experience isn’t the same, but it’s good too, and I agree with you open systems wins, that’s why I sell my iPhone last week and I’m waiting for pixel to run a open system software. But for now I’m using my old iPhone until pixel arrive.
Depends on the phone. Most major manufacturers make it close to impossible to change the OS in many countries.
Samsung is fully locked down here in Canada for instance.
But as you said, I can load an apk and block their tracking at least.
Does apple know that they can't stop incoming zaps from other clients?
They just do what they've always been doing, restricting their own customers.
Throw out your apples
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Fuck #Apple, go open source!
so how apps like bluewallet overcome this?
That is… 🤨
That’s their end goal, to get a piece of every zap. $APPL can go fuck themselves
What about a company app like Square? They have the accept tips feature??? 🙄
Removing the ability to call a wallet (other app) that does a zap as you had in the initial release didn’t seem to be an issue 🤔💭
As much as I’d personally hate to see #[4] away from the iOS/iPadOS side of things, a revert to that initial/prior state seems to be the route.
The other part here, what I don’t think is coming thru Apple’s notes to you, is that Apple has conflict of regulation with both being a storehouse of value itself and managing apps which pass value… the solution will not be a dissolution of the iOS AppStore as much as it will be something closer to the older-method of harsh curated app collections… AppClips on iOS points to this
People don't understand the value of free software until the proprietary software owners decide to prevent them from doing things
This is a tricky one
THERE IS ZERO CORRELATIVE AND PROVABLE CONNECTION OR ASSOCIATION WITH RECEIVING DIGITAL CONTENT AFTER ZAPS

Das bullshit
mfers😂
So how about when you use a browser? They also facilitate these things. Maybe the way forward is to reposition this as "Nostr Browser"
😤Why they gotta be so rude 😢
Give them an inch they'll take a mile.
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Clearly Damus is in accordance with 3.1.1 even before the change.
developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#payments
However, it's still not great for the App Store (or Google Play) with the existing guidelines. It's an opportunity for competition like F-Driod on mobile, and it'll be great to have even more with Lightning payments integrated.
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Damus and Nostr in general is a Threat to Apple and Google. Once a client starts to become very popular - “They” don’t even need a good excuse to remove you.
The only long term solution is working off the Apple and Google platforms - IMHO….
Push back and ask them to provide native bitcoin + lightning wallets on IOS, and you can find a way to integrate it. 😏
This is after removing zaps on notes? Absolute BS!
I'll be staying far away from Apple's cucked ecosystem from here on out.
Anyone have a recommendation for a tablet to replace my iPad Pro? Needs to support a pressure sensitive stylus like the Pencil.
Or CalyxOS... Free your phone...
IMHO buy an older model, and unlocked phone on ebay. In this case it is possible that the IMEI does not belong your country.
But choose carefully, before buy, se the supported phones on the desired custom rom disgributions website.
And if you a newcomer in custom roms, buy a cheaper one. So if you make a brick from the phone you easily throw it :-)
100%
Try integrate with a DEX, then the app will nout bound to a single entity (e.g. Binance :-) )
Integration itself shouldn’t be an issue. Many exchanges provide apis. The issues are likely about the exchanging process itself though. Depending on the jurisdiction you’re in, all sorts of regulation could kick in to the point where you might need some license.
It’s all rather ludicrous, imho. If Damus was one of those pay-to-level-up type of games you could simply sell tokens or gold stars through the app store and nobody would bat an eye.
I don't know much about how to Appstore works, but is there any possibility to download Damus directly from Github, and sideload it?
Ceterum censeo: Fuck Apple
More precisely: a degoogled, custom rom installed android
In this case Apple should pay to iPhone owners to use their mobile.
Ceterum censeo: Fuck Apple
Buy a degoogled (!) android. Or modify yourself with a custom rom. And do not (!) use gmail account, use alternate stores instead google play
Step by step Will. Everything will be fine.
I will be ditching Apple.
Did you do the official appeal?
I was going to appeal the specific guideline they dinged me on but apparently thats not even the thing that I’m getting removed for. I don’t know how to appeal a hidden guideline.
Apple went after Brave browser a while back due to the bat tokens. They remove them, but they’ve kinda just picked on them ever since. Idk man. This situation sounds very familiar. Maybe the App Store isn’t the best place for Damus, or really Nostr in general.
Posted from Apple iOS lol