I'm having a bit too much fun with the hate against the Monero gang. The not-so-funny thing is that the Bitcoin gang starts to sound a bit like any government. "Use our money, otherwise you're xyz." Not understanding that some people have legitimate concerns, and not wanting to listen, is exactly what a government does. Bitcoin being the only currency on this planet would be quite dangerous, and shit hits the fan when people start to believe their own propaganda. In my view, the #monero gang is a plus for Nostr's development too. Peace!✌️

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Personally, I still prefer Bitcoin, but I’m following Monero with great interest; in fact, my latest painting was purchased in Monero after many months during which nobody had been buying in Bitcoin, but above all because I see that it’s being used by some people I consider to be intelligent.
No, it's so we can buy more things with it. We like to spend Monero on more things. We don't like hodl NGU culture we're not like you.
Are you talking about the coin where the majority hashrate is KYCed and the government can see all transactions happening in real time who's spending what and people go to prison all the time for getting their coin traced? Is that the coin you're talking about? Surely you can't be referring to the closest thing to p2p digital cash that we have, the coin that belongs in anyone's toolkit who cares about freedom and resisting censorship. Surely not! Unless you are in fact a toxic maxi retard? Are you a toxic retard?
My pair of socks can be more private than bitcoin, but its not money. Same aplies to shitcoins, who the f cares if its not money?
Oh damn! You got me there! Oh wait, maybe it's because your socks aren't money. Whereas Monero functions extremely well as a store of value and medium of exchange that's easy to send and receive digitally, aka it functions perfectly as money and therefore is money. It's always fun speaking to a retards who like to throw retarded analogies and nonsense around 😂 Toxic Bitcoin maxis like you really excel at reaching a higher plane of retard.
Market decided long ago what is money, you probably think you matter and stuff you write as well. Market decides, bitcoin is money, everything else is shitcoin. Enjoy privacy with your pair of socks.
Letting the market control your ability to reason makes you a slave to the market. Have fun staying a slave while NGU is stalling out, and everything around you in Bitcoin p2p land goes up in flames. image
Honestly you should have a daily reminder: Monero is excellent p2p money.
Enjoy the taste of these orange nuts in your mouth, sir. And seriously have fun letting fiat prices tell you how and what to think, slave! image
The important thing to understand is that Satoshi himself said of base layer ledger privacy “If a solution was found, a much better, easier, more convenient implementation of Bitcoin would be possible.” Exact quote! Bitcoin was still very young and Satoshi hadn’t taken the time to review the literature related to ring signatures and various zk proofs, but Monero’s fungibility was considered part of a minimum viable product in Satoshi’s mind. He even described a scheme in that very thread that is kind of a nascent description of ring signatures, “As an example, say some unpopular military attack has to be ordered, but nobody wants to go down in history as the one who ordered it. If 10 leaders have private keys, one of them could sign the order and you wouldn't know who did it.” What the Bitcoin gang is doing is deliberately sabotaging Bitcoin’s ability to become money. That’s what is going on. They all know that Satoshi said this stuff but Saylor and the treasury companies all say that they don’t like base layer fungibility and that it would hurt corporate treasury compliance. Bitcoin maxis are anti-Bitcoin, and Monero is de facto that better, easier, more convenient implementation of Bitcoin. It is now de facto the real Bitcoin. Bitcoin can’t be money as long as these people are in charge, and is essentially no different than any shitcoin token. The only purpose of Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme, to generate a greater fool out of pension funds and convince them to buy STRC or some ETF.
Nothing new. ‚We MoNeRo UsErS‘ still sounds like retarded group thinking. No one is interested in what you use and in what group you think you are in to feel superior. Just use any tools you might need. Need privacy and want to buy hosting or domain names or sim cards from/for the free (black) market, alk, coffee or other drugs: better use Monero. Wanna zap around or/and store value long time: Use Bitcoin, gold, silver …. and weapons.
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MrWonderland 2 months ago
Not every 'we/us' has a socialist connotation. For talking about things it can be useful to group certain people/users by similar usage of stuff etc. No need to freak out about that. Also funnily enough Monero is currently a better SoV than BTC ;) image
Yeah dude we're talking about Monero on nostr because it will cause a price increase and we can dump our bags on you Do you even hear yourself?
Money needs to be store of value also, in order to be good money. If you cannot audit total supply its not good money. There can be some number od total coins but how you know its true in monero case? You have to trust about key aspect of hard money and you cannot verify it on your own. Its not looking good.
You can audit the total supply of Monero by running a node and syncing the blockchain. Your node verifies every transaction is spending Monero once and not printing new Monero. Your node will tally up all coinbase transaction outputs to calculate the total supply. Monero has never had a bug that compromises the math. It's not Zcash. Monero leans on cryptography for more than Bitcoin does. Bitcoin leans on cryptography to make sure that only you can spend your Bitcoin and no one else can. That can break too.
I used to think more like you. I respect the perspective that it's just tools. Unfortunately culture impacts the ability for the tools to improve. Unfortunately hodl culture has held Bitcoin back, unfortunately Saylor culture is a headwind for Bitcoin's ability to improve as p2p money. You can say culture doesn't matter and is a hallucination but that would be sticking your head in the sand and ignoring what's around you. Coldcard is a perfect example of shit culture contributing to shit tech proliferating and harming people. The lack of covenants is another example of bad culture. Monero's culture of unfuckwithable p2p money that makes no compromises is a valuable aspect of Monero. It's valuable and helps the money improve as money to have fewer people around with HODL for NGU imprinted on their minds. People just want to see it get better as money and that's a good thing.
Monero v Zcash is probably a clearer example. This meme captures it better. There is a clear difference in culture. Maximally improving the use case as a tool is Monero's culture. image
Yeah sure, people are trying to pump monero to dump it on those kyc exchanges that have all banned monero transactions already. Yeah makes sense lol
Projection. You're literally playing a character that entire persona is based on Btc group think. You have a fucking ₿ in your picture. And you're accusing everyone else of group think while you parrot the sane shit that shitcoiners who went back to Twitter have been saying
Also Sakura gets shit wrong all the time. She can slap me all she wants, believe it.
Monero relies on cryptography to audit the supply, and to make sure only you can spend Monero that you own. Bitcoin doesn't rely on cryptography to audit the supply, but it does to make sure only you can spend Bitcoin that you own. Both monies rely on mathematical cryptographic assumptions to work. Monero relies on more significant assumptions. It doesn't make logical sense to discount Monero entirely as money because it relies on cryptography. Both rely on cryptography, Monero just relies on it more heavily.
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