most people do not actually want free speech
most want the opinions they agree with to always be the loudest
few will actually push tech forward that enables freedom for those that they disagree strongly
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Most people say what people want to hear instead of what they really mean
You got it right :-)
People have forgotten the value of keeping their enemies close.
People are tribal, especially when faced with adversity, and few have what it takes to do the right thing.
I think most people want free speech, but they also want decency and order
Fighting to protect freedom and setting expectations for standards through social pressures gives us the outcome we want and a society we want our kids to grow up in
People want free speech until they realize that either everyone gets it, or nobody gets it… then they kinda want it but not reeeally
most people don't form their own opinions.
People wants to run Knots.
I think this applies here as well.
"Not everybody is comfortable with the idea that politics is a guilty addiction. But it is. They are addicts, and they are guilty and they do lie and cheat and steal — like all junkies. And when they get in a frenzy, they will sacrifice anything and anybody to feed their cruel and stupid habit, and there is no cure for it."
~ Hunter S. Thompson
Most want echoes, not freedom.
Give it time
Bitcoin = transactions play by the same rules
Nostr = posts play by the same rules
These are the same people who refuse to leave Plato’s Cave.
Excellent take, Matt. Nice to see proper communication on this now that people have calmed down a bit.
Silence is violence! Believe all women! I’m glad their narratives are dying:)
few indeed
to be fair i also posted this nine months ago in all caps 😂
all caps ever coming back?
The average man doesn‘t want to be free. An average man wants to be safe & secure. Just like a woman.
People don’t want democracy; they want the dictatorship that they agree with.
Freedom tech hinders those dictatorships from forming.
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I want free speech and I want crazy ideas and worldviews that are disconnected from reality to be heavily mocked and ridiculed in the open market of ideas
Indeed! 🔥💯 It’s only free speech when it’s my tribe talking, when it’s not it’s hate speech & therefore must be censored.
👆🏻 A sumarry of current political dialogue.
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same
minority
Freedom of speech is a double edged sword. X is by far the worst place on the internet. If Nostr was as widespread, I would not use uncensored clients.
Call me a pussy, but I don’t want to see children raped and men beheaded, in exchange for being forced to argue with half retarded schizos… why tf would I want that?
People DO NOT WANT an uncensored environment at all, unless it’s for ulterior motives. I spend more time on TikTok than any other platform. It doesn’t suck my soul like X or even Nostr.
Most people don't know what the free part of free speech actually means.
100%
user curation not censorship
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If you need freedom so bad, ride a motorcycle without a helmet.
Security = abundance for your offspring
Freedom = not even having kids
The tech is already here. It's called Nostr.
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calm Matt gets the point across just as well if not better 🤣 🤣
True. Double standards everywhere. EVERYWHERE.
Man, that will not work at all at scale.
We will be spammed with child porn. Pedophiles WILL adopt Nostr and run their own relays. We’ve opened Pandora’s box here. One step short of the dark web.
Innocent people should not go on an uncensored internet. Do you remember who you were before you watched a human die on video? That shit killed me.
Nostr desperately needs censorship. The fact you can encounter CSAM on here that has been here for months or years is unacceptable. And I’m not talking about like some teenager shit, I’m talking about full blown 10+ minute videos of actual prepubescent children being raped. We shouldn’t just chase free speech just for the sake of free speech. We need to be measured. We must be corporate. All human communication is censored by identity. After losing that to pseudonymization, we must restore balance another way.
thats called bullying - 90% amercians do that
Year after year, the fight for sound principles no matter the politics or tribe gets harder and harder.
People want freedoms for their tribe, but not the other.
But the American experiment was founded on universal principles and freedoms that do not get a vote, and do not change, but are innate and god given and etched into eternity as the basis for a liberal democracy.
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Absolutely true. Free speech isn’t about amplifying comfortable voices... it’s about defending the volume for those we might fiercely oppose. Real innovation happens when systems are built to empower even the ideas that challenge us most. The real test isn’t whether freedom lifts our own message, but whether we’re willing to build and uphold platforms that champion everyone, especially the ones we disagree with.... !!.. ,⚡⚡
obviously csam is horrible and anyone involved in that should get the death penalty
primal automatically screens that by default
Most people say they want free speech, but what they really crave is a loudspeaker for their own views. The real trailblazers are those willing to code, build, and defend platforms where even their harshest critics have just as much room to speak. Freedom isn’t proven by how we treat allies, but by how boldly we protect the voices that make us uncomfortable..🧡🧡
that's because words are dangerous and children are vulnerable
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Most people don't actually understand what free speech means. They think it means the freedom for them to be free to speak freely but don't make the connection that it means everyone (not just them)
it's true. People don't like hearing things that make them
1. feel negative emotions
2. have to think critically
3. feel challenged about their identity or worldview
Freedom of speech
Freedom of association
Freedom to demonstrate and protest
Freedom to transact
Freedom of religion
Right to privacy
Is all for my enemies and opponents.
Well I have seen that shit in the global feed, so
Plus one! At least once in a while? Pretty please? 😅
I don’t like what you are saying, therefore, you are wrong and need to be silenced
Be like David Goldberger. A Jewish lawyer that defended the 1st amendment rights of the KKK to march the streets of Skokie IL in 1977.
I no longer think we should extend our enemies the benefit of the doubt and argue in good faith. I believe very strongly in free speech, but if your ideology does not, why should I be forced to hold you to (my) higher standard?
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If we are truly free then folks should be able to say whatever they want & we all have the right to disagree with it but not censor it.
Yep
Freedom is a state of mind. At least for me.
There's no fundamental difference in the perception of people when it comes to basic human rights. It's the state indoctrination that later manifests in the perceived polarities of views.
Contact the relay administrator if you see actual crimes. They’ll most likely remove that disturbing content.
As for your cute authoritarian pitch thats a lot of bullshit sorry. Stop skipping on your meds.
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True. In abdicating my duty for “freedom”, I feel imprisoned. In carrying out my predestiny, I feel most free.
There is no authoritarian pitch here, retard. If you think it’s wise to allow your daughter to go onto the internet as a minor, by all means — dumbass. There isn’t an attractive underage girl on the internet who lacks an audience of older men idolizing her and grooming her. There has always been demand for underage girls who are even slightly promiscuous (think Britney Spears, Brooke Shields). If you don’t recognize these problems, bless your heart.
What the fuck does “contact the relay administrator” even mean dawg? All I should have to do is click report. THAT IS ME CONTACTING THEM. Some freedoms exist only by taking freedom from others. We need to be careful not to build a black market for child porn here. Anyone who can actually build something successful agrees with me.
Nostr is not meant to be censorship free. It’s meant so that you choose the level of censorship you want. Only immature people wish to remain in uncensored environments. It is bad for your soul and body.
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> There is no authoritarian pitch here, retard. If you think it’s wise to allow your daughter to go onto the internet as a minor, by all means — dumbass.
Relay operators are not responsible for your children. You are. Try parenting instead of allowing unattended access to the internet.
> What the fuck does “contact the relay administrator” even mean dawg? All I should have to do is click report. THAT IS ME CONTACTING THEM. Some freedoms exist only by taking freedom from others. We need to be careful not to build a black market for child porn here. Anyone who can actually build something successful agrees with me.
Their relay their private property. If you can’t accept that then remove that profile picture, LARPer.
> Nostr is not meant to be censorship free. It’s meant so that you choose the level of censorship you want.
Yes you are supposed to curate your feed. Not act like a crazy karen.
Have a great day schizo.
I shouldn’t waste my time trying to communicate with you.
You don’t think you are responsible, at all, for the actions of others, dear genius?
You don’t think it’s your duty — as a “wiser” man — to lead where others are blind? Don’t you think that if someone is retarded enough to give their teenager access to the internet, that they should be pitied and assisted? I think you should be pitied and assisted.
You think those poor children should just be made victims as examples. You think they should be raped to death on camera for profit. That’s what you defend. You call me schizo, only because your simple mind is literally incompatible. You are literally too stupid to understand voluntary censorship. Why did you reply to me if you weren’t going to try?
“Curate your feed”
We have all seen child porn here, faggot.
Anarchism is not chaos. Child sexual abuse is disallowed under anarchism because it breaks consent, maybe do 10 fucking minutes of research before making strawman arguments, brain.
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