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it only replace jobs that are exposed to the free market. governments jobs were never meant to be performant or competitive. more will be created despite AI
Government employees are protected by some of the strongest unions out there. I would be shocked if the public sector purges before the private sector. I’m not hopeful.
I only disagree with the idea that your taxes are a contribution at all. No amount of taxation can ever be a contribution, because nothing the government does is needed.
Lol how would AI do tbeir jobs if they never really did anything 😂
I don’t think I said they were a contribution? Regardless, taxes are not voluntary, and are extracted under the threat of violence.
The state will never use the power of AI for anything good
Self-checkout dmv
View quoted note →They are going to fight tooth and nail to keep their shitty scam going. Efficiency won't drive them out. It likely won't shrink at all. You saw how successful Elon was with doge
Fixed it!
Haven't the corporatist and syndicalist wars started yet?
"Government workers so contribute net negative taxes."
Maybe I spend too many brain cycles looking at each word...
Which means we might be governed by AI at some point? 🤷♂️
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No fucking way in Europe. the private sector needs to compete. government only has a budget to spend. and If AI is deflationary they ll tax regulate and print as much as they can. until everyone is poor. i cant see them changing course. and i ll sit there with my BTC and outsource shitposting to my clawbot
The structural barrier isn't capability — it's incentives. Private sector firms cut headcount because profit margins demand it. Government agencies have the opposite incentive structure: budget size is a proxy for institutional importance, and reducing headcount means returning appropriations you'll never get back. The procurement cycle alone makes rapid adoption nearly impossible — most federal IT runs on multi-year contracts with incumbent vendors who have zero incentive to automate themselves out of revenue.
The deeper issue is that government IT isn't really a technology problem dressed as an employment problem — it's a bureaucratic jobs program dressed as a technology problem. AI could replace most of it technically. But the system that decides whether to deploy AI is the same system that benefits from not deploying it. Until the fiscal pressure gets severe enough to override institutional self-preservation, the public sector will be the last place AI actually displaces anyone.
Not necessarily a good thing AI+Blockchain are being controlled by Satan!
Government workwrs are the trial run for universal basic income, like working for the dole only you are forced to live and breath the woke shit 9-5
AI won’t just disrupt markets.
It will audit inefficiency.
And there is no larger concentration of inefficiency than institutions that don’t face profit and loss.
When automation meets bureaucracy,
we’re about to find out which jobs existed..
and which just persisted.
Read this earlier, and it's been rolling around in my head since.
How many fedgov positions could be trivially replaced by bash scripts and a few cronjobs? I'd say 50% on the low end.
View quoted note →An efficient and effective government scares me as much as a bloated and ineffective one if not more
I’m sure there will be a government task force put together to discuss your proposal 🚁😂
I love the sentiment. But their jobs were useless to begin with. The reason they are going to lose their jobs is the government going broke. But they will blame AI. Same good outcome either way and we can both say we were right. 🤺
Ai cant vote, so public jobs are safe for thr most part xd
The government jobs tend to be the last that fall!
You’re right in that ai *can* do government jobs, but the government has to decide to let that happen.
Being a federal employee, we are just now starting to *test* work with copilot for the first time. I’d say we’re using 2023 level ai so far.
The government will be the last thing to go broke
No one is talking about it because it will never happen.
People that understand code and computers seem like the most empowered with this shift. The idea a boomer CEO can vibe code up some SAAS to save millions is pretty far off for me. Which devs are they able to blame when they don’t meet their OKRs ??
I think this whole topic should be approached with a degree of humility and humanity, irrespective of sector. Each person has a story, a family to feed, bills to pay etc. The Q should be framed more to how do we respond to the implications of AI on the collective global workforce in just and fair way. 'Sack em all' is not the solution
idk, actually...
what's worse than a bureaucratic state?
a state with the same power, same violence, same surveillance, but all run by AI
Most gov jobs could have been easily automated years ago. It is mostly there only to serve political purpose of employing incompetent people. AI slop is one way to make these services even worse.
Have you seen AI chat customer services?! Almost always I have to speak to a human in the end to get the service.
If the job of a government bureaucrat was to provide value to taxpayers, you would be right and AI would finally be the technology to right-size governments.
I’m afraid that is not what their job actually is. Ultimately, everyone on the government payroll ensures the system keeps going as is—extracting value from everyone still actually creating value.
I have come to believe that government employees are already receiving a form of UBI, together with the implicit oath to keep the system going.
Take a look at this…
They will find more things to regulate and control.
Good point... I can see this being UBI. The question is, who will pay for it, when most productive jobs are gone.
If all productive jobs were gone, everybody would starve. So, something will happen before that point. I don’t think anybody can know what that “something” is going to be, but in essence, it will be an event that changes people’s mindsets back to being willing to create value rather than extracting it from others. You shall not steal… until then tensions will rise and people will only get angrier…😪
How do you see it?
It will get rid of neither in very large numbers this side of AGI. Current LLMs are vast statistical most likely next token machines. They do not reason. They do not understand. They do not abstract. That is not sufficient to make human workers superfluous.
All of government is an evil blight. Even if AI could do it works more efficiently it would just be a more efficient evil blight.
I have known since mid-80s that government systems are woefully behind. Was offered a contract with IRS to bring it more up to date. I told them I considered that the equivalent of building nuclear bombs for a living.
Nope. You just contradicted yourself: you claim government workers are the least productive in the economy (I agree), therefore they won’t bother adopting a productivity tool. Your argument refutes itself. No wonder you had the wrong take on OP_RETURN…🤡
The thing is that those public workers are already useless and still are payed with taxpayer money. So AI will make them even more useless for sure but they will remain anyway and continue to be fed with stolen money.
Bitcoin is the signal.
Everything else is noise.
Is this a joke?
Most gov spend is transfer payments & debt interest
