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Jesus: "My kingdom is not of this world."
That's why true disciples of Jesus aren't involving themselves in politics. It's not our kingdom, we're just strangers and pilgrims in this world.
Sorta seems like the world would be a better place if we all just minded our on business and stayed at home rather than putting our fingers in everyone else's pie.
@Lyn Alden going to be honest, tldr. But need a big influencer to post shoe on head for the culture 🙏🏼
#shoeonhead
I'm with you Lyn. I still don't even know what woke or based means. I'm pro Freedom. Haven't read your book yet, but I have it
This post is based asf
I hope you can keep using your platform to also bridge the based-woke gap you allude to
For these reasons, I have come to shun institutional religion, and have come to God thru a most personal introspection, kinda like a gnostic but not quite that carried away. Study theology, history, archaeology, anthropology, physics, and philosophy, and come to your own conclusions. The Pentateuch was written by no fewer than three distinct groups, all with varying subtle perspectives. The gospels, written in some cases with small but diametrically opposing views on the life of various Jesus. people interpret variously, and many just wear their religion on their sleeve.
Lyn, I love your takes so much, I totally agree with this. I also highly sympathize with too woke for conservatives and too based for the progressives. I’ve felt similar a lot lately
people also confuse individual morality with national morality.
This is the self awareness and relativity camp and for the most part I’m with you.
Your view of conservative Christians is an imaginary caricature to those of us who would accept that title, but I can see why it’s useful to your narrative.
He was a rebel, like many of us. A freedom fighter. A true hero.
Set up your wallet ; tried to zap you.
i equate god to Santa Claus but hey if someone else thinks otherwise, so be it. i dont understand the need to force one’s beliefs on others, however. i think if god gives someone hope and community, great! if god gives you a weapon to smite others you disagree with, well i think y’all have been misled by a false idol. “dont tread on me” extends beyond government and includes not pushing your religion on others as well. no solicitors please.
Thanks man, will do.
Sorry idk the Truth.. But I bought your book!? Come on.. What a sheep!
Best comment.
You can’t unsubscribe from the game if you believe any of it matters. Take the religious rhetoric out of the choices and decide based on actions and results. We all should support our beliefs, but when it comes time to vote, you have to pick a side.
The earth is the Lord's and the people it contains.
Wow, I'm surprised by you. I thought you were smart..
It’s no caricature….it literally describes 80 percent of my relatives and the “born again” communities they live in.
They are not bad people. But they bend the gospel (or even break it) to meet their conditioned needs of defending “the empire”. (Not their words obviously)
Many are beginning to “wake up”. Alleluia 🙏🏻😌
“There are many in the church that are not ‘of God’. And many ‘of God’ that are not not in the Church”
- St Augustine (3rd century)
“There are many amongst us that say to me ‘Lord Lord’ but I tell you truthfully will not see the Kingdom of God”
- Jesus (1st Century 😉)
Romans 12:18 calls us to live peaceably with all, yet in this era of escalating division, that feels like a distant dream. Micah 6:8 reminds us to do what is right, show mercy, and walk humbly - virtues that seem to have been abandoned in our current landscape.
The pendulum has swung to extreme edges over the last decade. Cruelty has become a currency, with tribal loyalties replacing human compassion. Whether in immigration, geopolitical conflicts, or domestic politics, we've forgotten how to see each other as humans first. The empires - political, media, ideological - thrive on our fragmentation.
As 2 Corinthians 4:18 teaches, the things we see are temporary. The heated rhetoric, the polarizing debates, the seemingly insurmountable differences - all are fleeting. What endures are the unseen things: empathy, understanding, our shared humanity.
Lord knows I've been guilty of getting overheated. But perhaps our path forward lies in remembering that beneath our differences, something more profound connects us.
Let us pray that somehow, someway, we can pull it together.
What do you disagree with?
I should have said, “imaginary”. Not caricature.
You’re not alone. It’s too bad the two party system pigeon holes people. There’s always libertarians but there’s a mix of white supremacy in some of those corners. Ruling class loves to have the plebs fight along lines of class, gender, race, religion. When the plebs see that they’re stronger together, provided there is a base set of values that are agreed upon, there can be change. I don’t know if bitcoin by itself can solve this.
You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. -- Anne Lamott (From my Commonplace Book)
Are you trans? I think we should know..
When you get a chance get a King James Bible with Strong's Concordance of Greek and Hebrew. You will start to pick up on the words consistently translated and at deeper levels of meaning. Amazon has a nice Kindle version or you can use this:
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Furthermore you will see who is following the Bible and who is not. More importantly you will tap into something for yourself.
There is a lot of rhetoric and misinformation going around that is most definitely not true. For insurance Jesus was opposed to soft men and considered them diseased. The specific term was malakas.
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Mat 11:8 KJV But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings’ houses.
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μαλακός
malakovs malakos {mal-ak-os'}
of uncertain affinity; soft, i.e. fine (clothing); figuratively, a catamite:--effeminate, soft.
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The Bible is very well documented and the language is not so archaic considering that modern mankind has documented two great years 26,000 years times 2 in art and artifact. The arrangement of constellations has slight variations that were only possible in a great year configuration. That's 50,000 years. So the Bible scripture is a modern document of oral tradition.
Praying attention to the proponents and opposition is superficially pop culture. Deeper investigation will lead to careful insight.
don’t engage with trolls
“I'm too woke for the conservatives and too based for the progressives.”
I like that.
You were the cool star wars Rebels in 1776. It's your Romulus and Remus.
Jesus to me, is a strong leader and libertarian. He said you are free and you have self determination, but only thru me, will you find salvation.
I have many real life stories about how Jesus helped me personally. I didn't think you would paint us all one color. Thank you for listening to my post. I do wish the best for you in any case!
feel dat
She's not a troll dude
If it is any solace, you are not alone when you say “too woke for the conservatives and too based for the progressives.”
Your primary thesis here, I believe, is the comparison to Rome and the hubris and hypocrisy which bubbled up over time to the point where those in power were simply unable to see reality as it were.
This has been my focus as well on what I view as a concerning shift toward greater aggression by American with China. There is just so much to included on that topic, but what I would share at this time is how Taiwan has been leveraged in an eerily similar way as Ukraine. While the arguments remain “protecting democracy”, it is clear to anyone doing the homework that America made the decision to unilaterally change the four decade long policy of “strategic ambiguity”. Unironically this was done under Trump 1.0 when he and Congress passed the “Taiwan Travel” legislation.
Geographically, China is already surrounded in the East China Sea even without Taiwan formally in the fold. Military installations in South Korea and Japan in the north all the way down to the Philippines and Australia in the south. My assessment has been, and remains, that America “woke up” in around 2015 to find that China had reached a point of being a genuine peer competitor. Attempts to compete are not viewed by American policy makers as feasible given various – and growing – domestic constraints. This then leaves a pressure campaign meant to taunt Beijing. Thankfully Xi and his team have refused to take the bait. I did have to laugh at the FT article from a few months ago where Xi literally told Von der Leyen that he knew what American policy was attempting to play at.
Just a long winded way to say that I see and mostly agree with your points here. Just hoping that I am able to get the message out more widely on how what it is you shared here is playing out with China, Taiwan and America.
Word, my Nostr Peep!
Nuance, complexity and a deep sense of community - through which we tackle our common challenges - seem lost. Perhaps just for a brief period, and the long arc of time will indeed bend with the weight of Bitcoin and Nostr freedom tech.
Among the Bible, Talmud, Quran, Bhagavad Gita, and Pali Canon, what are your favorite teachings?
I assume you’ve read all of them, so in your view, how would you contrast each of them in terms of their major teachings?
nothing good comes from the Jewish Talmud except satanic tranny shit....oh wait
Didnt jesus whip the temple Jews for being...jews? how libertarian retard
I’ve spent most of my many years in conservative evangelical churches and it describes very few I know. Our experiences are different I guess.
No other country is as charitable as the US. Pointing out that the US doesn’t have a perfect immigration/border policy doesn’t add anything to the conversation. There is a process to immigrate into this country. Foreigners that don’t respect our laws don’t deserve a pass just because they are poor.
Jesus and God are one, and God was not shy about punishing people. Christians are not at odds with their God (which is not some hippie) by protecting their borders even if force is necessary.
absolute moratorium NOW.
we dont need them.
we dont want them.
we didnt ask for them.
human beings are not economic units of production.
preserving the heritage and traditions of the white european west trumps gdp, faggot.
dont you get it... its not about love or hate. its about POWER. multicultural societies weaken the shared political power of a common people with a common heritage. with no dominant defense, then come TYRANNY.
diversity + proximity = war
the elites know this.
wake up.
Most religions can be boiled down to:
The meaning of life is to help others, that is what brings joy and self fulfilment.
and btw, ALL the "rights" in the West that are real and unalienable come from, and cannot be argued for without, Jesus Christ and the Christian epistomology of the West so good luck in the gulag I guess.
Don't listen to someone that lies about their own Gender
PS dont try to make sense of faith mixed with politics.
its a dead end.
Just do your best.
How do we even confirm she's the real
@Lyn Alden otherwise?
But we are visceral emotive-driven walking pooping apes not rational spiritual creatures
For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.
I also do this to a certain extent and I can see that the pastor is beautiful and so are you. Trump.. I don't know. Rather not, but I'd rather leave that to God.
"I'm too woke for the conservatives and too based for the progressives."
That's how you know you are on the right side😉
Okay, I found it interesting, as I know it's not true but still, I love to think that Mahadev (a Hindu God) with his Trishul (an ancient weapon) is protecting me and my family when I hear a news of some communal clash, basically Hindu-Muslim riot, or perhaps a news of some innocent teen girl getting raped and killed. But at that same time, I am also like "Hey girl, save your own ass, Mahadev gave away his Trishul long ago!" Every time I go somewhere, specially after evening, and alone, I wish there is a strict,reliable police man standing nearby as I realize that I am not capable enough to save myself if something bad happens to me. But at the same time, I remember all the atrocities done by the Police personals in CAA protest and I am like "okay... may be just a having a peeper spray or keeping my phone camera ready would be a better option!"
We're Rome.
Lyn Alden
People often assume that whoever their god is, that it is standing with them specifically. In the US, they often separate this view along party lines.
Conservatives to some extent imagine Jesus standing with them on the border with a rifle protecting Christendom against anarchy. Even if many of those immigrants are ::checks notes:: also Christians. If a "woke" bishop calls for compassion on immigrants and is not a fan of the twice-divorced President who can't name his favorite bible chapter and forgot to put his hand on the bible when being sworn in, she's somehow the baddie rather than him, even among Christians.
Progressives to some extent imagine Jesus walking around in Gaza or Haiti or Sudan attending to the least advantaged among us. He shuns the empire and tends to them. And yet, while Jesus called for pacifism and was a rhetorical saint among chill speakers, many of them find a way to mentally turn extremists into heroes. Anything the underdog society does against the dominant society is justified. Even if it's violent toward civilians. In our media rebels are cool, but in reality they often like to kill the gays or the civilians, so it gets awkward pretty fast rather than being like the cool Star Wars rebels vs the Empire.
I find myself in a weird camp that almost nobody is onboard with.
I'm like, "Yes, we actually need to secure our borders. We need to be more scrutinizing for our society's sake. We need slower, higher-end immigration. And we actually need to enforce the rule of law for theft on the streets."
But also,
"No, I don't think Jesus of Nazareth as depicted in text would be onboard with this border view. He'd view us like Rome. Let's not re-imagine him as onboard with this. We're rooting for ourselves; he'd root for the underdogs."
I'm too woke for the conservatives and too based for the progressives.
The US was involved with multiple coups in Latin America. We ran the reserve currency and tried to bend them to our will with their dollar-denominated debt 40 years ago by spiking the value of that debt. Some of them went into retarded socialism and rekt themselves throughout that time period too; it's not all our fault. But it's some of our fault.
And then we militarily entered the Middle East. We made deals with them, funded them against the Soviets, and then turned against them. We've invaded them at like a 100:1 ratio vs them invading us with one major incidence (9/11). And as much as I am a fan of Jews as a people (as someone who grew up in Northeastern USA where Jews are relatively dense, I'd happily have them settle all around here), Israel is a state is colonial; our western powers displaced Gazans to make it and have been fighting that reality ever since.
We're Rome. And like Rome, we think we are justified. And along those lines, we're probably partially right, and probably partially wrong.
When you take a view, imagine every possible view opposing it.
And as the US dominates as neo-Rome, I think we will realize how distant we are from Jesus the hippie.
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Thank-you for sharing this, Lyn. I appreciate the way you think.
it‘s a mistake to belief that backlash can be avoided by being reasonable when talking about sensitive topics
Christians are called to be loving and charitable to everyone, including those at the border. However, the president has a duty to safe guard our border and screen applicants. This is part of our "separation of church and state" philosophy.
Israel def seems to be one of the final relics from our colonial past. Birthed equally by evangelical Christians and the Jewish people.
Join the nihilists, we don’t care. No one has any redeeming characteristics… we all die.
Among those I think the Quran delves most into what we usually think of as economics (broader scope of 'all human action' notwithstanding). I don't love some of the rigidity around interpretation there is with it or any other Abrahamic tradition even if I do understand some historical forces that encouraged that approach.
The Pali Canon went a long way in perhaps getting me to that view. Stories of the infinite divisions of things in different ways can, on a level, be simultaneously true, if those divisions have more to do with perspective of the observer, looking at an underlying reality that is unified (or, as Crowley and perhaps other Kabbalists might say, is 0). At the end of the day we live in our own experiences and understanding, by which we can compare and evaluate these stories. Of the 'world outside' we can't ever really know anything.
And that's fine. Knowledge is fiat, Wisdom is hard.
i was referring to you but you don’t seem like a troll my fault
Since you were apparently annoyed enough that I reacted with a downvote to go and make a random comment on one of my old notes, I'll just reply to you here.
I felt like you deserved a downvote simply because what you wrote was fucking rude and stupid. Rather than explain any kind of position, you just wrote... that. So I downvoted you because I disagree with it. No matter if you agree with her views or not, obviously nobody can defend the stance that she is not smart. In fact, I'm quite confident in assuming she's way smarter than you.
If you were being sarcastic/trolling/messing around/etc. then you shouldn't be so surprised that there will be people who don't understand that just from what you wrote. But I'm pretty sure you weren't.
Krishna told Arjun that he must fight. And in the same way we got to act. But we must not be attached to the results, since the merit belongs to God. He told Arjun to focus his mind on him wile doing all the work. Same way Catholic intelectual GK Chesterton, said that our problem is not lack of modesty. But that we became modest with our convictions, and arrogant about ourselves and our own capabilities. When the man for himself is enough, he do not have the need to improve himself, to become better. So, we see nowadays a world of fragile, insecure people, who have no convictions, but got to show something to the others. In this context of world, I like to call modernity, I saw a video wich argues "aesthetics beat arguments" and makes total sense since people are focused on show something to others and that the others perceive then by the group aesthetics (colllectivism). As a libertarian I understand this feeling of being caught between crossfire, and think that things will only change, if we manage to put God and transcendency in first place. The Bible says to "look for God things first, and everything else will be added to your life". It is indeed very difficult acomplishing this, but must be the way...
Wow, that's really deep... 🙏 but I still have some uncertainties... Like while deciding what to do and what not to do, we imagine the possible outcome of the action and based on that imagination, we decide whether it's a good thing or a bad thing to do. At least I do that all the time. So when Krishna says that don't worry about the result, I get confused, because if I don't think about the result than how am I supposed to know if the thing I am going to do would be good thing or not?
Most of the time either a possibility of getting rewarded or getting satisfactied is what empowers me to do all the required things. How can I get that motivation if I don't think about the result at first place?
"When the man for himself is enough, he do not have the need to improve himself, to become better." - that part is kind of confusing to me.
This question is very tricky indeed, is also kind a doubt for me, I am/was reading Bhagad Gita with comentaries of Paramahansa Vishwananda, and eventually it pops out for me too...My personal answer for this concern is that there is a ultimate goal and an ultimate result that is God...So we should keep this in mind as the intended result of our actions, by focusing our mind on Him, it could be praying, shanting mantra, remembering images, whatever...in this way things should make sense...But of course we are not saints, there should be a long way (or not) to get there, because the plenty of this state should only be achieved by God's Grace, and by our efforts, we could only give our tries to surrender the results of our efforts to Him, we will rise and fall until the moment comes and we attain His Grace
If we thing we are good enough, why would we become any better? So Chesterton says that tha man must doubt of his own capabilities, be modest about them...so in this way he will deliver his best, because he knows: what he intends to realize is not certain by his own capabilities...The man who thinks he is capable of everything, becomes useless, degenerate himself because he stop to try...he becomes demotivated, nut also, insecure...its a reflex of our time, when people start believing in things like "science is more important than philosopy or tradition" or "tradition ia not important at all"...these people deny the condition of existence of what they say they believe...I think it is something on this way
Thanks for this post Lyn. We share a lot of perspectives and thanks for being courageous in sharing yours. Balance is what humanity needs in the modern world. Awareness and moderation of middle ground is what moves society forward.
Okay that makes complete sence, thank you👌💯
Okay that makes complete sence, thank you👌💯
On board.
I loved this rip
Lyn Alden
People often assume that whoever their god is, that it is standing with them specifically. In the US, they often separate this view along party lines.
Conservatives to some extent imagine Jesus standing with them on the border with a rifle protecting Christendom against anarchy. Even if many of those immigrants are ::checks notes:: also Christians. If a "woke" bishop calls for compassion on immigrants and is not a fan of the twice-divorced President who can't name his favorite bible chapter and forgot to put his hand on the bible when being sworn in, she's somehow the baddie rather than him, even among Christians.
Progressives to some extent imagine Jesus walking around in Gaza or Haiti or Sudan attending to the least advantaged among us. He shuns the empire and tends to them. And yet, while Jesus called for pacifism and was a rhetorical saint among chill speakers, many of them find a way to mentally turn extremists into heroes. Anything the underdog society does against the dominant society is justified. Even if it's violent toward civilians. In our media rebels are cool, but in reality they often like to kill the gays or the civilians, so it gets awkward pretty fast rather than being like the cool Star Wars rebels vs the Empire.
I find myself in a weird camp that almost nobody is onboard with.
I'm like, "Yes, we actually need to secure our borders. We need to be more scrutinizing for our society's sake. We need slower, higher-end immigration. And we actually need to enforce the rule of law for theft on the streets."
But also,
"No, I don't think Jesus of Nazareth as depicted in text would be onboard with this border view. He'd view us like Rome. Let's not re-imagine him as onboard with this. We're rooting for ourselves; he'd root for the underdogs."
I'm too woke for the conservatives and too based for the progressives.
The US was involved with multiple coups in Latin America. We ran the reserve currency and tried to bend them to our will with their dollar-denominated debt 40 years ago by spiking the value of that debt. Some of them went into retarded socialism and rekt themselves throughout that time period too; it's not all our fault. But it's some of our fault.
And then we militarily entered the Middle East. We made deals with them, funded them against the Soviets, and then turned against them. We've invaded them at like a 100:1 ratio vs them invading us with one major incidence (9/11). And as much as I am a fan of Jews as a people (as someone who grew up in Northeastern USA where Jews are relatively dense, I'd happily have them settle all around here), Israel is a state is colonial; our western powers displaced Gazans to make it and have been fighting that reality ever since.
We're Rome. And like Rome, we think we are justified. And along those lines, we're probably partially right, and probably partially wrong.
When you take a view, imagine every possible view opposing it.
And as the US dominates as neo-Rome, I think we will realize how distant we are from Jesus the hippie.
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Well that shut him up🔥I was wondering what trolls ye speak of in your newer post, so I went digging. They could have at least had deepthink come up with something good for them. Maybe even expand the thinking button and figure out how to do some basic reasoning for themselves. Oh, well. I guess you get this a lot.
This is a great perspective, pointing inward. As a Panamanian, whose family came from the U.S., I am deeply connected to both nations, and now married to my U.S. wife.
It is crazy when I hear the ignorance in the U.S. regarding LATAM coups, manipulation, and plain attacks on nations' sovereignty, all while using them as an experimental backyard. Kudos to El Salvador for breaking out of this cycle, or at least it looks like they have.
And regarding people with their own perspective of Jesus, it is so true. Yet, it is not a decision we can make. We have one source of reference on Jesus' character, and that's the Bible. Yet, all political parties and individuals will bend it toward their view.
The protection of the border is good and very much needed. But those who love (and obey) Jesus should know that His heart will also be with those who are suffering, regardless of the side of the border... or, for that matter, their political side.
"Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed.
Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow."— Isaiah
Particularly like this part of Lyn post: "We think we are justified. And along those lines, we're probably partially right, and probably partially wrong.
When you take a view, imagine every possible view opposing it."
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Scylla and Charybdis
Lyn Alden
People often assume that whoever their god is, that it is standing with them specifically. In the US, they often separate this view along party lines.
Conservatives to some extent imagine Jesus standing with them on the border with a rifle protecting Christendom against anarchy. Even if many of those immigrants are ::checks notes:: also Christians. If a "woke" bishop calls for compassion on immigrants and is not a fan of the twice-divorced President who can't name his favorite bible chapter and forgot to put his hand on the bible when being sworn in, she's somehow the baddie rather than him, even among Christians.
Progressives to some extent imagine Jesus walking around in Gaza or Haiti or Sudan attending to the least advantaged among us. He shuns the empire and tends to them. And yet, while Jesus called for pacifism and was a rhetorical saint among chill speakers, many of them find a way to mentally turn extremists into heroes. Anything the underdog society does against the dominant society is justified. Even if it's violent toward civilians. In our media rebels are cool, but in reality they often like to kill the gays or the civilians, so it gets awkward pretty fast rather than being like the cool Star Wars rebels vs the Empire.
I find myself in a weird camp that almost nobody is onboard with.
I'm like, "Yes, we actually need to secure our borders. We need to be more scrutinizing for our society's sake. We need slower, higher-end immigration. And we actually need to enforce the rule of law for theft on the streets."
But also,
"No, I don't think Jesus of Nazareth as depicted in text would be onboard with this border view. He'd view us like Rome. Let's not re-imagine him as onboard with this. We're rooting for ourselves; he'd root for the underdogs."
I'm too woke for the conservatives and too based for the progressives.
The US was involved with multiple coups in Latin America. We ran the reserve currency and tried to bend them to our will with their dollar-denominated debt 40 years ago by spiking the value of that debt. Some of them went into retarded socialism and rekt themselves throughout that time period too; it's not all our fault. But it's some of our fault.
And then we militarily entered the Middle East. We made deals with them, funded them against the Soviets, and then turned against them. We've invaded them at like a 100:1 ratio vs them invading us with one major incidence (9/11). And as much as I am a fan of Jews as a people (as someone who grew up in Northeastern USA where Jews are relatively dense, I'd happily have them settle all around here), Israel is a state is colonial; our western powers displaced Gazans to make it and have been fighting that reality ever since.
We're Rome. And like Rome, we think we are justified. And along those lines, we're probably partially right, and probably partially wrong.
When you take a view, imagine every possible view opposing it.
And as the US dominates as neo-Rome, I think we will realize how distant we are from Jesus the hippie.
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Wow this was so good, I see things pretty similarly lyn.
Kinda like the sentiment and balance is nice but there’s not much nuance to Genocide.
