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Not surprised. The govt definitely turns everything to 💩
So sad. I see this kind of management, or lack thereof, across the country in Canada too.
So funny that people are blaming these on climate change when it's really California's shitty forestry management. I have family living there that report to me how shitty it is.
That wood is left on the ground to regenerate the forest. Is a common practice. Without that the ground will not be able to feed again the existing trees. Also inside the dead trunks it creates mini habitats for all kind of insects, small animals that also feed the forest.
If you ever see a "clean" forest without dead trunks , leaves, kindles than that forest is a dying forest.
Read more about regenerative forest.
The fire was manually /intentionally started, not because of some dead trunks in the forest.
This exactly. These state led agencies are rubbish at anything other than suppression.
View quoted note →you know nothing about fire ecology
Just waiting to burn.
Interesting. I have been reading a lot about regen methods and a lot of it makes sense but is maybe a risk of this method of management is more fires! What should they do to contain these. Maybe a ring around the forest to act as a barrier to stopping spread to urban areas.
It’s awesome that you’re thinking regeneratively. I understand that when a tree dies naturally and falls it creates a habitat that nurtures the ecosystem. I also understand that when trees are harvested, the branches are stripped off and left behind to emulate the natural cycle. I believe that when trees are harvested for wood, they leave the branches in well spaced piles to mitigate the fire risk. Wildfire fuel management is an important part of a well-managed system. In this example, they clearcut to build a trail and left miles of whole trees creating an unnatural fuel source.
In a humid environment that's true but that area of Cali is brittle. Leaving that much carbon on the ground in such large pieces is providing a tinderbox for any stray cigarette butt or jerk with arson on his mind.
The tops should probably not be left in piles at all in areas prone to fire. Chip them up and spread them out. A pile of tops has so much air space combined with the carbon of the branches, it's a bonfire waiting for a spark.
Fucking idiots running the state.
Even bigger idiots keep voting for them.
No one to blame but themselves.
nice massive tinder box
Less States,
Less Governments,
More Self Sovereign individuals.
Keith
To anyone wondering about the cause of the California fires. Here are some pictures that I took while hiking in the Sequoia National Forest a few years ago. A national forest managed by the state of California. I was so shocked at the irresponsible forestry practices that I had to take pictures. All of the wood in these pictures was cut down and left on the ground by state agencies. This hike covered about 5 miles. Everything the government touches turns to shit. That’s why I live in the woods with my wife and dog and try to be as self reliant as possible.
#permies #grownostr #homestead #wildfires #bitcoinfixesthis
That's one of my goals.. 🍀
Wow. It all makes sense now because YOU said so with all of your knowledge. Must be awesome being you.
But the TV says it is "cLiMaTe cHaNgE"
View quoted note →Very true. Always true.
"... Everything the government touches turns to shit... "
Keith
To anyone wondering about the cause of the California fires. Here are some pictures that I took while hiking in the Sequoia National Forest a few years ago. A national forest managed by the state of California. I was so shocked at the irresponsible forestry practices that I had to take pictures. All of the wood in these pictures was cut down and left on the ground by state agencies. This hike covered about 5 miles. Everything the government touches turns to shit. That’s why I live in the woods with my wife and dog and try to be as self reliant as possible.
#permies #grownostr #homestead #wildfires #bitcoinfixesthis
it turns out... Smokey the Bear preventing forest fires was a bad idea
You sound TRIGGERED. It’s ok boo boo baby if your feelings are hurt.
That is very sad!
This is EXACTLY why I started thinking about the Forest Walker system: automated machines that "eat"wood, mine bitcoin, and produce soil amendments such as biochar and wood vinegar.
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I would assume the larger trunks could have been hauled away and sold.
But all the smaller branches should be left on the ground. This gives insects a very fertile breeding ground. It’s in fact very healthy for the woods as a whole to have “dead” leaves and branches on the forest floor 🤔
Don't worry. Darth bloviates a lot. He also says a lot of good things too
If the government was a forest...
View quoted note →So I’m curious - I live in the PNW and when trees fall on their own, typically they’re cut up enough to just move them out of the way, similar to the pics.
But we obviously get tremendous rain and most of these begin growing moss and breaking down. During the summer, they’re dryer, but not anything like the pics. Does this create the same amount of risk?
Oh, and yes, some tool started the fire. But it spread so much and quickly because of the excess fuel laying around.
it's true if not at least controlled burns then physically clear some of the debris
I don’t think so. I don’t hear of record size wildfires coming out of the Pacific Northwest every year or two.
california has a decaying, socialist, high tax, large population of poor people and idealogues and cult leaders all causing trouble, plus they thought it would be a great idea to plant eucalyptus trees everywhere, trees from a country that has wildfires unless you exercise strict burning off regimes (the trees need the fire to propagate, also, and when there is enough, they usually dominate the trees that don't propagate because of the fire)
some genius put eucalyptus and acacia trees on this island of madeira too, and as a consequence there is fires here, except the landscape is so crazy that they need helicopters to put them out, literally almost none of the island is reachable by road
There definitely have been some fires but ya, not massive ones like California. I’m very ignorant on forest management stuff, I grew up in the desert 🤣
da DEW run run run da DEW run run
excess of fuel is not the ignition...
In other countries the same thing happens and the state is always the same culprit.
Totally agree with all you wrote. Wood on the ground also serves to control surface water and soil erosion during rainfall. Yes it is dryer there but pretty sure not always. The simple solution to everything crowd seem to be saying the forest should be eliminated and all will be good with respect to fires.
yeah, the problem is the ignition not the fuel.
Prevent the ignition and is all fine.
A pile of wood it require a lot of sun heat and concentrated into a single point in order to get a flame... It will never ignite a fire just for sitting on the ground.
You misspelled fuel
You are proof that our education system runs as designed. Of course it is designed to create compliance driven idiocy.
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To anyone wondering about the cause of the California fires. Here are some pictures that I took while hiking in the Sequoia National Forest a few years ago. A national forest managed by the state of California. I was so shocked at the irresponsible forestry practices that I had to take pictures. All of the wood in these pictures was cut down and left on the ground by state agencies. This hike covered about 5 miles. Everything the government touches turns to shit. That’s why I live in the woods with my wife and dog and try to be as self reliant as possible.
#permies #grownostr #homestead #wildfires #bitcoinfixesthis
Anywhere humans live the environment must be managed. That's just a fact.
Building in an area requires management.
Mismanagement results in property destroyed. If you think you can live in a forest and escape fire you are delusional. Lightning strikes trees and ignites fuel.
California stopped forest management which has created a public that assumes things are fine.
No Agenda has covered this.
John C. Dvorak one of the hosts has lived in California all his life. Since the 1800s it has been well documented that California has wild fires and if humans choose to live there the forests, water and infrastructure must be managed in order to work. Whether it is possible is not a question. It has been managed but now it is mismanaged.
I'm on the East Coast and we have to constantly manage our cities for hurricanes. They will happen. Snow will happen. Being complacent is not an answer.
The Outer Banks was created by a hurricane and roads have to be closed down. Bridges built. Ferries run. Things change.
We have work to do always. This is why when we get cocky thinking we can manage other places we get our ass handed back.
We also are spiritually bankrupt but that's another story.
