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Nice, hopefully this will mean that Motorola phones with GrapheneOS installed are official Android version so these shitty app dev will not be able to block GrapheneOS on purpose (banking app, parking app, McDonald's app....๐Ÿคฎ).
Awesome! Now I would love to see a collaboration with Fairphone as well!
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And before that were long time NSA hardware suppliers. Really excited about these fantastic news! ๐Ÿ˜Š
GrapheneOS partnering with Motorola is the kind of news that we should all be pushing for privacy-grade OS. mass-market hardware. no compromises this is how you bring sovereignty to not-power-users, not by preaching, but ๐›๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐š๐ค๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฌ๐ž๐œ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ž ๐จ๐ฉ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐๐ž๐Ÿ๐š๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ญ ๐จ๐ง๐ž. #grapheneos #privacy View quoted note โ†’
Yes it is true. Motorola split apart over a decade ago so there are two major companies with similar branding now. We are working with the Lenovo company who has the historic smartphone brand. It shouldn't be confused with Motorola Solutions, the security and communications equipment manufacturer.
After BlackBerry and Nokia stopped making phones, Apple was almost the only choice for people who wanted a secure phone. People have very different attitudes towards Google and Apple. Android's security can't just be solved by "DeGoogle". Vendors of software and hardware need to work closely together. I hope that the partnership between GrapheneOS and the new Motorola can change this situation.
I highly doubt this is going to be the 0.5 Monero Moto G line and probably be more like a 2 Monero device. That's fine of course, but having extremely cheap privacy devices that work well enough for most users would be amazing as well. Hell, the Moto G2024 has better Geekbench scores than my current phone does, and it was released in 2021, and it has double the storage, and I came across it because I was looking at what devices from Motorola have support for Lineage OS. #Monero
If you are in the US, there's cloaked wireless, and I will be switching to them this month.
It will initially be Motorola's flagship devices but could trickle down to other devices in the future. If you want an idea of their flagships look at the Motorola Signature (2026) and Motorola Razr Fold (2026) for the current generation ones not quite meeting our requirements yet. It will be upcoming devices similar to these.
Signature is about 3.3XMR on retail right now but everyone knows prices fluctuate and offers come around. Also that device itself is still pretty new with a 7 year update commitment.
I can't say I'm surprised, but man does that kind of price hurt my wallet. 3.3 Monero. I normally don't buy phones that cost over one Monero.
Unfortunately GrapheneOS will not be a Google certified operating system. We are still continuing taking actions to try and stop these anticompetitive practices from Google. We also hope additional partnerships with major brands can create pressure to support GrapheneOS. We hope to work with Motorola to provide some GrapheneOS features to their stock operating system too.
The Signature is their leading flagship device outside of their foldables. We were held back from supporting this device because Qualcomm didn't have production memory tagging security features yet. With the next generation processors we have been told they absolutely will. This could hopefully open up support for more devices down the line too with Qualcomm adopting everything we need now.
Is it an exclusive relationship? Why stop at one partner. I could imagine that more companies are willing to meet your hardware demands.
We are absolutely open to more OEM partners providing they can produce the devices we need. They'd need to be very committed to helping us as we will have our time occupied working with Motorola as well.
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eko 4 days ago
let's see where this goes...
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Roboto 4 days ago
I hope this does not turn into a corporate co-opt
Reading the article it looks like they are only going to be using the partnership for b2b customers. Are they planning on having a consumer available, off the shelf phone with graphene installed ?
You will have devices to install GrapheneOS onto. Hopefully we can have a device able to come with GrapheneOS as well. The former is much more important.
Last time I try it was blocked in GrapheneOS and Lineage OS, but I didn't try for a long time and don't care to be honest.
The Pixel monopoly on serious privacy hardware has been a real constraint โ€” not just for cost diversity, but because one hardware home for the sovereign stack (node, Lightning, Nostr) means one point of failure. A flagship-grade Motorola with official GrapheneOS support changes that calculus meaningfully. Watching this one closely.
If you mean modified as in installed another OS, barely any in this case. They're all non-Google certified operating systems so Play Integrity hardware attestation can force apps not to work on LineageOS, CalyxOS etc.
I hope they are going to release a compact phone (< 6 inch) too. The current offering includes almost exclusively tablets.
I mean Samsung and other brands are modifying the base Android a lot to add their bullshit UI and mandatory app store and apps. And it's still certified by Play Integrity otherwise all customer of phones other that Pixels would complain of apps not working. How is it different if Motorola officially sell a device with GrapheneOS installed stock as their version of Android ? It should be approved by Google and pass all Play Integrity check, right ?
The device / OS pair is certified. It has some requirements that if the OEM follows them they are able to be certified. For example, Google services available, many as privileged components. While we have sandboxed Google Play that is still not sufficient. Some users don't have a play services implementation at all. So while some OEMs make awfully changed Android releases, ours is left in the dirt there. We don't try for Google certifications.
No future devices based on current ones looking at as targets appear to be that small. Closest is the Motorola Signature which is 6.8, assuming the next gen successor is the same size as the Signature. The razr ultra is a little slimmer but 7 inches, but folds.
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