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What if we don't bring people to nostr but bring nostr to the people
How so?
for big creators and brands there's not enough money, creative tools, statistical analysis and damage control here
definitely agree with the exclusive content aspect
I don’t think “big” creators are necessary. They can be brand spanking new, so long as they’re good at what they do
b̶i̶t̶c̶o̶i̶n̶ nostr doesn't care about it's users.
People will find it when they need it.
yeah, they just need to be aware of nostr and have incentive to start here over any other alternative
Like, I was already subscribed to Netflix, but when one of my favorite shows moved to hbo only, I got that subscription so I could watch 🤷♀️😂
Building
🫂
This is correct. I believe that’s why
@ODELL deleted his twatter account. But I also think that more people will come to nostr when censorship gets worse. Elon isn’t doing a lot of censoring so adoption has been slow. Maybe nostr is keeping other content platforms honest? Normies are sending me pretty extreme TikToks and Facebook posts that I was surprised haven’t been taken down.
The problem with that (unfortunately) is that your average joe is comfortable in his cage and doesn’t care about censorship or privacy. There’s a good bunch who do, but I don’t see that as the average person
Censorship levels are nowhere near where they were in the Biden years
Facebook shifted when the new administration came it. Legacy social media acts like politicians now
For those reasons, the next big wave could be because of a need and not a want.
For instance a specific client or feature of the protocol.
And we know there are plenty of unique features with more to come.
there is a lot of stuff on nostr that's exclusively retarded
Yup. Some people care more about unique features. I personally, gravitate more towards the content and focus less on the features because I don’t dev
I’m aware. That’s what I do here lol
Right, but Tik-Tok, YouTube, Instagram, etc all serve up image and video files on a screen, but the features of each a very different.
experience (sorry forgot that last word)
😂😂😂
Yeah I guess so, but that’s not what really draws me as an individual in. I will totally learn how to use different/new features for content I like
But if the content is recycled across the platforms and not unique to the platforms, then there’s something about the platform itself that is appealing.
Very true
Like its features 😜
But features without unique content are pointless
Very true 👊
I post content exclusively on nostr. So there you go.
How consistently?
Whenever I feel like it. See, just did it again :D. I have like 12 followers too, so you know I'm a big shot.
Damn. I had no idea
Yeah so the use case isn’t attractive right now
I agree but the average joe will come if someone like Joe Rogan started posting on nostr. But he won’t post on nostr unless he gets censored and I don’t think they will anytime soon.
Yeah so let’s wait until the next election when a democrat becomes president
It’s really terrible. Oof
This is the circle of life in clown world
yeah bit of a solution in search of a problem
Shouting into the void is nostrs best feature rn imo.
😂😂😂
Once in a blue moon, I put my thinking cap on 😂🫂
But how lol
The reality is incentives mean that essentially someone has to pay top talent in order to have them take the hit on engagement and post here exclusively. It's like how chess.com became king by paying all the GMs to play there. And since Nostr is just a protocol it means a VC backed app project like Primal would need to do that. But then, since they have no moat in terms of the network it makes little sense to do that. So then maybe Primal would need to look at top talent posting exclusively to Primal's relay or something. And, voila, we've reinvented centralized social media. But without those financial incentives how can we expect content creators to come and post here exclusively? And without moats and ROI how can we expect capital to fund it? Like with Bitcoin, the model needs to work in alignment with human incentives. So, greed has to equal good.
I think that would be fine, actually. Nostr is just like HTTP or TCP/IP. It's just the plumbing. Maybe it will make a better web. I think it will because the public/private key pair and natural fit with Bitcoin help solve the problems of identity and also online micropayments. But the reality is, like with TCP/IP, the apps that make the biggest mainstream impact will be the ones who can make a moat and exploit their user base for maximum profit. So we can expect to see exclusive relays or at the very least proprietary elements in apps which make them sticky. You just can't be pouring millions into a project which someone down the street can then use to bootstrap a competitive service. This is the same reason Coinkite had to make its Coldcard licensing commercially restrictive. The reality of human incentives means that a utopian vision will never and can never be realized. Never.
And almost as important: there is no big amount of people. Nostr will have to climb the huge network effect of the other platforms.
Not me brother! Nostr only! Be the change!
60% of the time you nail it every time 🤣
Yup
Is
@Lyn Alden ‘s left ear still Nostr exclusive?
Yep. That’s why you can find
@Helios only on Nostr 😜
100%
Why do I want to bring the masses here? They ruin everything!
Most of it
It has to be explained to the masses with marketing, ease of use & to understand.
You incentive to users that everything they do on other apps you can do it with Nostr BUT get paid lightin⚡️ bitcoins.
Make it easy to understand for the common users and it will grow.
It can’t be an alternative but a new app that’s has everything and more!
كلامك طيب
وستجد ان شاء الله مع الزمن كثيرين يأتون الى نوستر لأسباب متعددة
أنا مثلا اكتشفته قبل أسبوع فقط
والان بدأت بدراسة البروتوكول وكيفية النشر وما الى ذلك، وحتى الان لم أجد ما يمنع من أن انقل استخدامي للمنتديات الى نوستر وأن أنقل معي من يسمع كلامي ممن أعرف وخصوصا اقارب الدرجة الأولى
I agree with you in theory
But from my experience, posting to X and YouTube helps to find others.
I've been posting on all 3 platforms (nostr mainly) while talking about what makes nostr special.
It's still foreign to most people - even bitcoiners - and so it's something that they have to hear about 10-20 times before doing it.
It's a slow grind but we are definitely making progress.
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Agree. Nostr only 💜🤝
NOT SURE IF WE ARE GOOD BUT WE ARE ON NOSTR ONLY (AND OUR OWN WEBISTE)
AND WORKING ON ACCEPTING BTC ONLY
WE DO NOT HAVE MANY PEOPLE INTERESTED IN OUR WORK, BUT HONESTLY, WE WILL REMAIN A NOSTR-ONLY ART COLLECTIVE REGARDLESS OF STATUS QUO
ENJOY THE NOISE
If I knew I could exclusively get clients from here not through Linkedin, I would exclusively post on here. I will however post my content first on here.
The change will likely be gradually then suddenly.
We need nuggets, local stars. Not boring developers, discussing what relays or applications we should use, and how many of them there should be. Namely, content makers. But for this we need the ability to grow the fan base, advertising contracts, monetization from impressions and other things, which are basic options for any social network.
My take on this question is: Unique capabilities.
When there will be things that a creator can do only in Nostr, creators will come to Nostr
This has been my approach for sure.
I post first to NOSTR then syndicate and have a tagline indicating “appeared first on NOSTR”.
We have to meet people where they are at.
Think of a church. If the church only ever said “hey we are over here come here..”
…and they didn’t go into the streets, the bars, downtown etc…
There’d be a lot less people attending church.
After all, Jesus hung out with Sinners…I think the least we can do is pay the LinkedIn vagrants a visit 😜
Can you elaborate on what you mean?
As I read it, it sounds like you are describing all the current social platforms, of which:
1. NOSTR is intentionally different, so why would it want to be th same, and
2. It’s a protocol…FOSS too boot…
Help me understand
@Bitcoin ETFThis is the goal.
And yet there will always be laggards 🤣
I don’t think she means the masses… but one’s audience.
AND when the time comes that the masses arrive, Nostriches will hopefully have done our part to ensure our audience is indoctrinated into the NOSTR culture.
Yet still…not all will see the light.
This makes purfect sense…
I don’t think her left ear is…but perhaps her right one 👂
Cannot disagree! 🤣
What got me on NOSTR was actually a search for “decentralized social media”.
A community I’m a part of was pushing Farcaster and migrating to it from Discord for support.
I was like, “what’s Farcaster”…saw that it was (purported to be) decentralized and I wondered if there were similar social solutions.
NOSTR came up…I saw it was Bitcoin based (economy wise) and further said, “why the heck would I go to an ETH based platform if I can be on a BTC one.”
…the rest is history!
Make it dating app
Umm excuse me ser…NOSTR’s CEO would disagree… 🤣
Good point. We need more of that 😂
😂might be less
I have a vagina
Yup pretty much
More people means more zaps. Nobody wants vc funded anything. Ideally, we the people get to decide with out sats
People who don’t want more people coming to nostr don’t care about nostr devs.
A lot of your average people don’t give a shit about bitcoin. They just wanna bed rot and doomscroll endless content
I’m really glad you found nostr, my friend 🫂
I agree with that too, but what if you announced to your YouTube audience that you’re going to go more in depth about a subject and to find that video, you have to go through nostr 🤷♀️
Fuck yeah
I don’t think we have a linkedin type of app or client yet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone builds it eventually
I agree with you 💯
I believe we already have them
Nah. Arranged marriage app 😂
Good origin story!
Exactly! I also understand content creators who currently have more visibility on other platforms so they should have more economic incentive to publish here! How do you do it? Bots intended to heavily reward level content here on nostr? I don't know 🤔
Zaps
Interesting. Who are the most famous people here?
🤷♀️I don’t think fame is necessary. Just entertaining
I guess fame is a proxy measure for the amount of entertainment the user is creating
Maybe I am Missing something. What feature does Nostr provide for a content creator who is not that interested in privacy anti censorship or bit coin technology?
🤣🤣🤣 So true!
We need Jim Carey only #Nostr and it is over for other social media.
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I think
@Noshole is right.
I started posting exclusively on Nostr for exactly this reason.
By the way, thanks for hanging out here. I enjoy your weird stuff.
Cheers from the Bitcoin standard.
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I post exclusively on nostr. I just shitpost though. 😅
Ye, hear our prayer.
Still helpful 🤷♀️😂
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