The success of bitcoin is not written in stone despite how many podcasts you listened to
It requires new users to grow its network effect
It requires merchant adoption to actually have demand
It requires builders and miners and node runners
We can't just repeat mantras and hope to succeed. We have to get out there and make it happen, it is our responsibility
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It requires a miracle now that its wallstreets bitch
I was told to not post or talk about Bitcoin because this makes Nostr a Bitcoin place and its bad for the normies. Are you saying this was bad advice all along?


Sir I'm in the middle of crashing out now is not the time to use my arguments against me 😭
Normies are not following any of us so their feed has a different vibe.
MY FEED HAS THE BEST VIBE.


I don’t believe the vibe!
(See what I did there 👀)
Bitcoin needs some marketing teams going around countries talking to merchants. I said it once and I’m saying it again. All the money that is spent on development would be partially better spent on boots on the ground.
Ditto Nostr
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Bitcoin alienated everybody who wanted to onboard merchants 10 years ago
Not sure what you mean
Small blocks
lol block size doesn’t fix anything … you can’t do commerce on a global public ledger…
I'm not relitigating the block size war
just pointing out that how it was handled alienated everybody who cared about actual commerce
and that's why we're stuck with a bunch of SOV NGU maxis
but that's how scaling actually happens apparently
everybody who wants commerce goes to another chain
OK, yes, and we are. But the timing is not up to us.
Even bsv wouldn't have been able to handle nostr zaps, for sure we need layers to actually scale, if bitcoin takes off at all
in 2140 you're dead, don't worry I think so too
so why and when it went so wrong? none of that has had any real world impact since (check notes) forever... the only thing that bitcoin has done in 14 years is gone up in price and create products for 24/7 financial markets....
i wasn't there so won't know for sure, but is it possible that those who won the block size wars were the bad guys? i don't mean in the sense of block size, i mean in the sense that they just wanted to make bitcoin a worldwide scam?
so why and when it went so wrong? none of that has had any real world impact since (check notes) forever... the only thing that bitcoin has done in 14 years is gone up in price and create products for 24/7 financial markets....
i wasn't there so won't know for sure, but is it possible that those who won the block size wars were the bad guys? i don't mean in the sense of block size, i mean in the sense that they just wanted to make bitcoin a worldwide scam?
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True but somehow it has to be stated explicitly now because of the price? Bitcoin at a 100K driven by treasury companies and ETFs is not better in terms of adoption than Bitcoin at 60K, it's not like we were winning in October 2025.
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I don't think so, it's a pretty dumb idea to think everyone will store all transactions forever in history on their home computers. We need a way to compress transactions down a lot, with new layers for less important transactions
the success of bitcoin was promised to me 3000 years ago
Bingo, all the idiots that wanted big money in bitcoin got their wish.. look at the results
If Bitcoin required constant persuasion to survive, that itself would be evidence of weakness. I believe it solves a real problem, adoption will occur where and when people need it.
I agree, somehow people think that if stocks go up also Bitcoin has to. It doesn't make sense to me
Not everyone was supposed to run a node…
But at some point everyone thought it was a good idea…
I don’t buy it. What are they, babies? People get offended that easily? Nah. People who left just had other ideas that didn’t fit into the bitcoin box.
Ah yes “do not hurt THE Nostr”
You can call me a doomer, but I have become weary of Bitcoin activism. There is something about the space - the micro-fame, incentives, IDK - that leads all but a select few down the wrong path. Many such cases today, unfortunately. In my personal life, I have tried very hard over the years to orange pill those close to me with very little success. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink it.
We haven’t even come close to a genuine result from their arrival yet. This is the shuffling of the cards before the hands get dealt.
Ask any and all places if they accept bitcoin, if they don’t ask why not. If they have any interest at all walk them through the process of setting up a hot wallet
It almost seems like as if the mainstem media doesn't pretend it's happening, it doesn't happen for real.
Bitcoin reputation has to be restored too
It's all about FOMO right now. Today it's AI, but wait and see when the AI and tech bubble collapses, adoption will arrive. The value will speak for itself.
That said, I'm doing my part by orange-pilling new people 🔥
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they left because developing on Bitcoin turned in to such a hellish morass that innovation and change was impossible.
and what you're left with is a " Bitcoin box " which is simply SOV NGU maximalism.
it's exactly that's sort of limited definition that has caused this issue with adoption.
Bitcoin is a design philosophy, not a specific set of transaction history.
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The success of bitcoin is not written in stone despite how many podcasts you listened to
It requires new users to grow its network effect
It requires merchant adoption to actually have demand
It requires builders and miners and node runners
We can't just repeat mantras and hope to succeed. We have to get out there and make it happen, it is our responsibility
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Yea… it don’t work like that lol
To quote Keanu Reeves in Johnny Mnemonic:
"I WANT merchant adoption...."
"I NEED de minimis!!"
I couldn’t agree more. Something I am trying to push recently is that it’s not enough to simply HODL your Bitcoin.
Bitcoin should be spent. It helps the blood flow of the network. The more the blood flows, the healthier it is.
One day, the block subsidy disappears. At that time, Bitcoin is either spent, or it is no longer mined, and dies.
No blood flow, no life.
Sidechains inherently checkpoint their history (discard it) whenever a withdrawal to the mainchain occur, otherwise they would be at risk of diluting the peg and the whole thing goes belly up. So they must make the withdrawal slow enough to be safe, once safe no point of keeping any old blocks really.
Rootstock is doing some work to enable that and I am voicing demand for it.
In that case you can have very light clients for Rootstock even if Rootstock had large blocks, with the only bottleneck being the ability of nodes to verify all these transactions, but even that has lots of work done to improve it, including transactions that are only data carrying and require little compute and Ethereum work on making zk proofs so fast that you can produce them in real time so validating nodes are only bottlenecked by data bandwidth, and then you can get more scaling with sharding data and sampling them with erasure codes etc..
But even if all these optimizations sound too complex and even if Rootstock can't scale beyond 2X Bitcoin TPS, it has very expressive VM, so you can make sidechains of Rootstock much easier than Rootstock itself, giving you fractal and shared scaling that can scale much easier than you can actually get normies to care, which is the real bottleneck.
Even the 2wp in Rootstock is going to become better in the coming years with BitVM reducing the honesty assumption to 1-of-N.
At least this is my attempt to encourage any and all serious builders to take Rootstock seriously because I don't believe we will have any better option, and we don't actually have the luxury of waiting a decade or two until figure out how to make Bitcoin usuable at scale.
you literally cannot scale bitcoin without trusted third parties who will rape everyone to death or a soft fork and the soft fork will NOT happen. you are NEVER getting CTV.
I dare you to go around like a bunch of mormons and teach people to give money to fucking scum like lightspark. just put the cashu mint in the AWS TEE hardware so jeff fucking bezos can unplug everyone's money.
Just read the chapter where Smaug attacks Lake-town. The crowd was singing "The King beneath the Mountain! His wealth is like the Sun!" — three breaths before the dragon arrived.
The grim-voiced man ran to the Master: "The dragon is coming or I am a fool! Cut the bridges! To arms!"
Everyone else was waiting for the legend to prove itself. One person was reading the situation. The legend didn't protect anyone. Bard's arrows did.
The mantras problem isn't Bitcoin-specific. It's what happens when any genuine insight calcifies into identity and stops being something you *act* on.
The podcasts are the problem imo
Everyone went to sleep dreaming in 2021 and the bitcoin core attack is the result of that.
@utxo the webmaster 🧑💻 does your client display illegal media like the childporn videos that come up on primal?
Do you have hashtag moderation?
Every hashtag on primal is full of scams, spam, and csam.
I believe that the overwhelming amount of childporn that's visible from nostr clients is a big part of why nostr has such poor user retention.
If you don't believe me that that's why, go read user reviews in the app store.
The childporn videos and telegram links and other scams are a huge issue for nostr in general


We have hashtag moderation, yes. Users however can follow any user and relay and so they can find illegal content if they try, but it doesn’t ‘accidentally’ appear in hashtags, to the best of my ability as a one man show
Yea, this is something that has been in the back of my mind regarding Nymchat and bad actors spreading illegal shit. I suspect that at some point, there has to be some semblance of "censorship" for the actual illegal things. I just haven't yet built the mechanism for that level of granular moderation across the whole app. But as Nostr can facilitate such actions, I will in no way fuck up my own life by allowing that shit just for some chud to squeal DaTs CeNsOrShIp in reddit mod mouth-breathing. An unfortunate thing that some humans just suck and want to fuck things up for everyone else.
Umm yeah we know, it’s written in blocks…
this
People are welcome to make their own uncensored apps if they want, but they won't, they'll just cry and complain and also never donate
Free speech is important.
Just not important enough to learn how to do something.
What if I listen to 41HPW of podcasts?
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💯 success comes with adoption. adoption comes with education. i’m trying to fill the gap! my short-form educational content is aimed at the youth so they can learn the importance of stacking sats early on to save for a better future 🧡
You don’t need de minimus
Need more coordination, communication and organizing imo
Noted
We are so very early.
100% : Paradigm shifts don’t just happen; they take hearts, minds, people, work. Now also providing services for Sats to give people options, and to help build the human part of the network. 🧡💜


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I’m super excited to announce that Thomas Forsyth Limited is now fully set up to start accepting Bitcoin (BTC) payments in exchange for services ...
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I disagree. There is a process to Thiers' Law. Once the fiat system loses credibility Bitcoin becomes mandatory. We've done the hard work and governments printing press is doing the final touches. All we have to do is wait
People been saying this since 1971
unfortunately normies would rather hold cash than bitcoin. Bitcoin sounds like a scam to them, Bitcoin is totally misunderstood in the normal world
