primal will ship a better nostr video experience
fuck youtube
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Fuck yeah. Decentralise knowledge. Btc Sessions fiat alternative education is becoming a threat.
Only a Sith deals in unskippable ads and centralized revenue streams.
I will do what I must: ads on nostr.
https://blossom.primal.net/2c290edc3c729d9fe087576603901071a82d3bf356d84aae1f7d075a7d7633d9.mkv
Can't wait! #FuckYouTube
fuck youtube🤬
So ready.
time to build a relay outpost
I hope this will be soon ⏰
Hope so, I've tried to embed videos on primal but hit the size limit many a time
gradually then suddenly… seize the moment.
✨that will be exciting✨
it has been on the roadmap for awhile now
adding blossom support was a prerequisite, all videos are now hashed and signed, with automatic mirroring
much more to do
Have you seen @Shosho – Live Stream on Nostr
Thoughts 💭🤔
Zap stream?
looks awesome, was not on my radar
obviously i love zap stream
I hope it's built on HLS streaming. Then it will be compatible with zap stream :)
many different pieces to do it right, nostur does a great job of embedding zap stream in app, primal should too
yes, 100%
love zap stream
Ohh my how things have changed .... Fuck YouTube
Oh snap! Thank you!
Needs to be some kind of chunked video streaming. because then we can build something similar to torrents 😁
True 💯💜🫂
fuck youtube’s annoying ads
Vive la Alberta!
Fuck YouTube indeed.
@ODELL we need to get into contact with the devs on this ....
Really?😳
Google has been doing this shit since day 1 before they even bought YouTube. Banning sites from the search results and shit. Its not just that they’re a big tech company so they have to censor. They choose to censor way more than they need to. I mean just look at Apple Podcasts. They could ban the same shit Google/YouTube does but usually they don’t. Google is just fucking weird in this way and hasn’t changed in decades. Eventually nostr fixes this but in the mean time its kind of surprising that Apple doesn’t try to compete with a less banhammer crazy video platform 🤷
dont waste the energy. they are doing that to themselves. they are ripe, low hanging fruit for disruption.
lot of moving pieces to do it right
needs to be open and interoperable
core pieces of blossom + hls with clean ui on top, can iterate from there
Fuck em… @Short Fiat is building the protocol to make them obsolete. Can’t wait for @Fanfares ✊🏼
lets goo we need it 🤘🚀 fuck youtube💜🧡
Me encanta la cantidad de usuarios de NOSTR queriendo empujar para desarrollar un youtube en nostr, amo eso
🫂 🤗
Long term YT is doomed
Thankfully!
Hi Odell, nice to meet you!
We're Facebook Live or YouTube Live for Nostr, and the vision is Whatnot or Tiktok Shop for Nostr. See us on GitHub, Obtainium, Zapstore, TestFlight et al.
Would love to see you do improv lives from mobile in addition to your main shows!
@Shosho – Live Stream on Nostr
👋
That would be great🤩
Can't wait for that! Hopefully more YouTubers will then place their content on Nostr.
I can hardly watch any YouTube video these days without being disturbed by nerve-wracking commercials every five minutes.
That model must be made obsolete.
Plus the fact that accounts can be frozen/blocked and content therefore censored. Bullish on Nostr.
This note has a vibe of "my trust in you is broken, I will obsolete you" (paraphrase from memory) and I love it. This is how shit gets done. LFG
Fuck youtube 🖕🏼
#shipped
Nostur is smooth
Amethyst also works well
But I guess the main problem we face is the lack of reach/audience
I stream on the zaps every morning and the viewers increase each month
Time is the main ingredient here
Ebb and flow things that are tainted eventually go out with the tide. Nostr is now
2 weeks?
"Better" than what?
I wish you'd make it actually good someday
@Zach will take PRs, but he's no longer working on this. He loves Nostr still, but I guess not enough to focus on it. I spoke with him last month in Vegas.
as someone who has been streaming both of my shows to zap stream and then posting them here for the last two years i have seen both the growth and the pain points
lots of work needed
it will be in phases
we shipped blossom support last month which is one of the core building blocks
realistically, i would like to see a fully polished experience by end of year, on both the creator and viewer side
Really? That’s super ambitious 😳🤙🏻
Bullish!
Been thinking of this quite a bit. For short video it's better to keep simple single mp4 files. HLS overhead makes sense for > 200MB or > 5min video.
We also need to scale the blossom infrastructure (more servers, cashu payments, resumable uploads and expiration/temporary storage might also help).
Isn't video hosting expensive af?
yes, but the blossom spec means we do not need to host all the videos, anyone can host them, anyone can verify they have not been altered
this brings additional anti censorship benefits as well
life is too short to not be ambitious
Wait when did Odell stop posting in all caps? Wtf? This is not what I paid for
gave them up for lent
Imagine if this turned out to be even shittier than a YouTube clone by trying to make people pay for basic YouTube features without offering basic solutions like BitTorrent support or a JavaScript-free onion service to fix any of YouTube's main issues
This is the way 💜
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fuck youtube stream to nostr with NIP-53!
We kinda have zapstream already
🤝
lo tenemos ya
isn't that what rumble is trying?
🥳
I trust that you are correct! Can we get back to when people hurting themselves was monetized?
We should not lose btcsessions to truth social…
I sure hope so. 👍
I want this!
But the main question is how is the hosting going to be handled?
I mean you need a lot of server with lots of bandwith to deliver a decent experience.
Also heavy compression on videos is a bad things, no one enjoys videos with artefacts.
Is it worth reaching out to odysee and seeing if there is the possibility of nostr intergration ? Similiar to @Fountain ?
I'm not a tech guy so im sure there's reasons it wouldn't work, but might be interesting to explore...
would be cool if they and rumble added blossom
blossom is under appreciated
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I am not very familiar with the spec, but is the spec not refering strictly to signing/linking keys to a video?
The question still remains who will host the video?
The data has to come from someones server.
And if you want to offer experiance comparable to YouTube, those servers need to:
1) be fast
2) content will be persistent, like 5 months from now.
Futher more if you have 10k people using this the storage and bandwith scales with this number.
So still not obvious to me how exactly that can work.
Odysee's bittorrent protocol is more scalable in this case, it achieves persistence for content by ensuring users also host it, via P2P.
Blossom still requires dedicated servers and to my knowledge has no chunk-based fetching from different sources.
Odysee essentially overcame this the same way BitTorrent works, by making every client app a server - You stream the video, then hold it for x amount of time locally, and seed that video back to other watchers in the background.
Only way for Nostr to do the same, would be to have clients host a local relay (which some do, although there used to be more chatter and development about this a couple years ago) AND a Blossom server also, and you'd need to be able to fetch chunks from different sources, which I don't believe Blossom can do.
I guess they dropped the hammer on BTC Sessions. Probably a special hit paid for my PM Carney.
doesnt it also have a shitcoin?
could add cashu payments to blossom for files as needed
@Uxellodunum I would be willing to connect a seedbox, if possible, to make sure, that content I watched, stays online
That sounds like it would be awesome. Something like LBRY client, but it takes cash payments.
Blossom is still unable to do chunk-based fetching though (again, to my knowledge), so that'd be a big limitation and I don't think the UX would work well in that case.
I think many users would, myself included.
But I think there's value in how Odysee does it by turning every client into a pseudo-seedbox.
Think about what every app on your devifes caches - But sharing said cache.
It's more decentralised, resilient, censorship-resistant and because of that, especially when paired with the idea of local Nostr relays running with clients, keeps more with the spirit of Nostr.
I'd also seperate the shitcoin and shitchain from the media functionality of the protocol.
Fuck youtube
Can't wait ⚡️
@primal will become the complete package. Insane. 🔥⚡️
When and where? Put me in coach I’m ready!