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I’d push back on that a bit. The bitcoin network itself doesn’t agree or disagree to this. It’s an open network that people build upon. People either find it a useful network to transport other things on (eg USDT) or not.
Taproot assets isn’t really “on bitcoin”, though. Hell, to avoid KYCing with swap providers, it’s probably unlikely to remain “on lightning” if it gets popular at all.
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QW QW@npub.bar 11 months ago
Pushing back is allowed. The meme’s feelings will not be hurt. 😆
Some of that is debatable, since btc/ln is a transaction and settlement mechanism for the tokens. But if it’s not on bitcoin then it also doesn’t really involve bitcoin in the meme.
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QW QW@npub.bar 11 months ago
But in all honesty. As a bitcoiner it’s a weird feeling. Tether announcement at a Bitcoin Conference. Same weird feeling with ETFs, CrYpTo politicians, ES IMF / legal tender backtrack. Just weird… guess we shall see where permissionless freedom takes us.
Right, it never settles to Bitcoin to its hard to say it’s on Bitcoin :). And, yea, not defending the meme, just noting that it’s really a pretty separate system that’s unlikely to materially impact bitcoin itself.
Do you think it has the potential to impact LN in terms of fees or anything else? If there are more periphery swaps and transfers through the network, it might impact network-wide scale and fees. But only if the interest/scale of USDT over LN is big.
At scale I’m very skeptical that it keeps using swaps. Why would it? Costs nothing to build your own network built on USDT, hell, you could even allocate liquidity with zero cost, unlike BTC lightning. If it’s small maybe it’ll drive a bit more volume, if it’s large I’m skeptical. Maybe gets some USDT folks into wallets that can pay a lightning invoice, but I’m not sure that drives much lightning usage either, tbh.
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Analogue Dog 11 months ago
I will not be running a node that routes assets created and backed by banks.
*if* they manage to largely supplant existing tether usage (not sure why they would unless the fees are a ton lower, so maybe, unlikely?) then maybe it drives enough merchants that support receiving payments over LN invoices that it drives the ability to pay with lightning broadly, but that seems quite a ways off and SOL is ETH L2s are way ahead. First they need someone to build a good consumer wallet, which is at least a few years of work.
im curious does this affect just LND or also core lightning too until a hard/soft fork of lightning #asknostr
I dont see the sense or benefit of building a permissioned system on top of a permissionless, and costlier base layer. This feels o bankster cooption attempt of Lightning.
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Node Runner 11 months ago
This is what infrastructure inversion looks like.
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hasky 10 months ago
It all comes back to Bitcoin