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I went vegan for almost 2 years because my wife said I couldn't. Proved her wrong, but died inside. Well I'm back and there's no better food than a quality steak and real bacon View quoted note →

I was a vegetarian for 20 years and I can confirm, eating meat again 13 years ago felt like this. View quoted note →

Yup. I was vegan for 8yrs. It was the greatest mistake I’ve made. Now keto, on the edge of carnivore. Never felt better, more youthful, or vibrant.

Just watched my mother-in-law eat beef for the first time in years. She had a second plate.

I make the same face after a 48+ hour fast Why people voluntarily go without steak will never cease to amaze me View quoted note →

Me still after eating meat for my whole life … View quoted note →

Great.

Why is this meat-obsession so strongly promoted in this community, and freedom money seems not to fit into the view, that freedom is for everyone... Why does this have to be celebrated like this? If you eat meat, hunt the animal yourself and look into its eyes before you kill it. Anything else is pure hypocrisy. Visit a slaughterhouse yourself and talk to the workers. Most of them choose to wear headphones with music to block out the animals' screams of terror. Many are depressed, alcoholic and violent at home because they can barely cope with having to kill so many animals every single day. If you decide to eat an animal, then pay attention and don't let others do the work for you. And above all, an animal doesn't just walk around with a steak! Associate yourself with your actions... Any thoughts on this @Ava @FreeAsAbove ?

Because Nostr is free.

I think we need to start with an uncomfortable truth: we're not as evolved as a species as we like to think we are. And that shows up very clearly in certain online spaces like Nostr where meat-eating has stopped being food and turned into ideology. Not just carnivore, but raw carnivore—as an identity. If you eat meat—especially raw meat—you’re told you’re more “alpha,” more sovereign, more real. Most of the people pushing this are men. Many of them are chasing the same fantasy: stack sats, get jacked, become a GigaChad, get a girlfriend someday. Meat gets folded into that worldview as proof of strength. This isn’t accidental—it’s belief layered on top of insecurity, amplified by group reinforcement, and "justified" by biased biology. That’s narrative. That's belief. One of the main reasons this gets pushed so hard is distance. Most people are completely removed from the act itself. We don't kill the animal. We don't hear it. We don't feel the weight of it resisting death. Language helps keep that distance intact: it's veal, not a calf; pork, not a pig; steak, not a cow. The animal disappears, and what's left is a product. We even use the names of certain animals—the ones who didn't get the pass—as insults. Dirty rat. Fat pig. Calling someone a chicken, a snake, a weasel. The language does double work: it erases the animal we murder, and degrades the ones we decided weren't worth protecting. Anyone who has ever field-dressed a large animal knows this isn't abstract. It's intense. It's visceral. It demands attention and respect. There's nothing casual about it. And let's be clear about the language: "field dressing" and "processing" are just softer words for skinning, gutting, and dismemberment. If you're talking about survival, that's one thing. Humans have always made hard choices when there were no alternatives. But when alternatives exist, eating animals is a choice—and pretending otherwise is dishonest. Factory farming exists so people don't have to face what they're supporting. Slaughterhouses are hidden for a reason. Violence is outsourced and sanitized. Look at the dairy industry. A cow can live around 20 years. In industrial systems she's used up and dead by about 4–6. Forced into repeated pregnancies. Her calves taken from her almost immediately. Anyone who's spent time around cows knows they grieve—mothers will walk for miles and cry for days searching for their babies. Or look at the egg industry. Male chicks—millions of them—are considered waste. They're thrown into plastic bags and left to suffocate, or dropped alive into industrial grinders within hours of hatching, because they can't lay eggs. View quoted note → All of this happens at massive scale. Most agricultural land isn't used to feed people—it's used to feed livestock in feedlots. Forests cleared. Water drained. Bodies broken early. Not for survival, but for preference. And here's where the story people tell themselves really falls apart: which animals get a pass is almost entirely cultural. At some point, people decided dogs were off the menu. Horses too. Cats became family. In other parts of the world, those lines are drawn differently. In India, cows are revered. In Japan, the Nara deer—sika deer—are treated as sacred. In Australia, you can buy kangaroo meat at the grocery store. Ask the average American if they'd eat kangaroo and most would recoil. Ask them about deer, and it's completely normalized. Same animal. Different story. View quoted note → Religion often functions the same way. Some people point to scripture and claim humans were given dominion—that we're the "top" species and therefore granted a moral pass to kill other living beings. But that's one interpretation, from one religion, written in a specific historical context. It isn't universal truth—it's narrative authority. And even within those texts, stewardship and care are just as present as dominance. What gets emphasized depends on who's doing the interpreting—and what they're trying to justify. That's why I say this isn't about necessity—it's about narrative. If dairy truly came from animals who were loved, respected, and allowed to live full lives, I'd be vegetarian without hesitation. But that's not the system we have. What we have is industrialized exploitation, justified by tradition, convenience, culture, and selectively interpreted belief. There's also a reason this ideology has been marketed almost entirely to men. The meat industry spent decades selling the idea that "real men eat meat." It worked. To this day, it's one of the only things many men are socially encouraged to cook. That narrative wasn't accidental—it was profitable. Even Arnold Schwarzenegger has spoken publicly about how deeply that myth was sold—and how, after multiple major heart surgeries, he was forced to confront reality, face the facts for himself, and shift to a mostly plant-based diet. View quoted note → I'm vegan—not because I think I'm morally superior, and not because I haven't looked at the science, but because I have. And because animal rights actually mean something to me. If you believe in freedom, autonomy, and sovereignty, those principles don't magically stop applying when the subject can't speak your language. When alternatives exist, eating animals is a choice. An animal doesn't just walk around as food. And outsourcing violence doesn't absolve anyone of responsibility—it's still murder. View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → #IKITAO #AnimalRights #GoVegan

Because they want to conquer and not work together as one is simplest answer. Bluntly: they seek to draw power from OUTSIDE sources because they lack something within. I’ve done it.

Studies have also shown that the world has been destroyed by RoundUp Burn 🔥

Merry Christmas Ava.🫂

⚡️🧠 #EatTheSun Light attracts the curious and the predators. Either way— knowledge burns through bullshit. Attention is currency. Spend it like you mean it. ☀️🔥 View quoted note →

You willfully ignore that Mother Earth 🌍 has been destroyed while telling others to eat poisoned meat. You must work for #ADM

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Glyphosate is commonly known as RoundUp and it’s been poisoning Mother Earth since … 1974. Waterways are poisoned too. Many whistleblowers and ...

Merry Christmas, Kingbee 🫂

Well said!!

This explanation sounds almost too simple, but I think part of it is definitely related. However, I also think the issue is much more complex...partly deeply rooted in beliefs, traditions, narratives, but also in false convictions that are already ideological and thus exclude everything else in order to maintain their validity...We live in such a paradoxical world, and it makes me incredibly sad that so much violence is perpetrated against beings who cannot defend themselves because they have no voice. Look into the eyes of a cow...She has a look full of trust, even when humans exploit her. And the same applies to all other domesticated animals.

Wohoooo, I celebrate every word of yours 💥 I hope people will read it through. Thank you for taking the time to spread your knowledge and all the links. Let's be the voice for the voiceless 💚

People don’t want simple answers. Why? When I said : lead with love and everything is simpler … most didn’t listen. With respect 🫡, #IDGAF why they chose willful ignorance. I do #GAF why narrative warfare continues to work.

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Why can't I zap you?

Got it! 🫂💜

Now it worked ⚡ ...had to go via Damus 🤗

Yes, I usually use NoStrudel and from there it doesn't work...strange things happens 😈

You sound miserable

Every animal has feelings like we do, they feel pain, they like to play, they have way more compassion then the average human being, they are always in the moment, they like to be loved and can share there own love, they forgive you instantly ...they are created from the same energy.....all the BS about what nutrients and vitamins we need is BS aswell....because there are a lot people these day's ...they do not eat at all and they are more healthy then the ones who are eating...plus from my perspective our bodies do not need food at all....i did a fast last year of 13 day's just on my shivambhu and honnestly, i never felt more energized then back then....eating is emotional thing....the only food your body can digest and that will clean your inside are fresh fruits....your organs...will rejuvenate....but hey everybody on his level of evolution...i never want to force someone else to do something against there own believe system....because everything is based on what they believe....they have to experience what is the best or the most bad for there body....i can go on and on but here i stop and wish everybody a great experience....thats what it is an experience nothing more or less ...Love and Blessings to all beings....🌀 🫶 🍀 🌈 💖 ⚡

Breatharianism is not a journey for the faint of heart. Blessings to you 🙏🏻💜

Except they had vegans before they had fiat money

I’m 100% with you @Hans 💚 Physically we are fruitarians and yes it’s all about consciousness…once we are ready we can also let go of the attachment of food 🚀

I am a hunter, I grew up in a butcher shop and all what you wrote is finest bullshit.