Why is this meat-obsession so strongly promoted in this community, and freedom money seems not to fit into the view, that freedom is for everyone... Why does this have to be celebrated like this? If you eat meat, hunt the animal yourself and look into its eyes before you kill it. Anything else is pure hypocrisy. Visit a slaughterhouse yourself and talk to the workers. Most of them choose to wear headphones with music to block out the animals' screams of terror. Many are depressed, alcoholic and violent at home because they can barely cope with having to kill so many animals every single day. If you decide to eat an animal, then pay attention and don't let others do the work for you. And above all, an animal doesn't just walk around with a steak! Associate yourself with your actions... Any thoughts on this @Ava @FreeAsAbove ?

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I think we need to start with an uncomfortable truth: we're not as evolved as a species as we like to think we are. And that shows up very clearly in certain online spaces like Nostr where meat-eating has stopped being food and turned into ideology. Not just carnivore, but raw carnivore—as an identity. If you eat meat—especially raw meat—you’re told you’re more “alpha,” more sovereign, more real. Most of the people pushing this are men. Many of them are chasing the same fantasy: stack sats, get jacked, become a GigaChad, get a girlfriend someday. Meat gets folded into that worldview as proof of strength. This isn’t accidental—it’s belief layered on top of insecurity, amplified by group reinforcement, and "justified" by biased biology. That’s narrative. That's belief. One of the main reasons this gets pushed so hard is distance. Most people are completely removed from the act itself. We don't kill the animal. We don't hear it. We don't feel the weight of it resisting death. Language helps keep that distance intact: it's veal, not a calf; pork, not a pig; steak, not a cow. The animal disappears, and what's left is a product. We even use the names of certain animals—the ones who didn't get the pass—as insults. Dirty rat. Fat pig. Calling someone a chicken, a snake, a weasel. The language does double work: it erases the animal we murder, and degrades the ones we decided weren't worth protecting. Anyone who has ever field-dressed a large animal knows this isn't abstract. It's intense. It's visceral. It demands attention and respect. There's nothing casual about it. And let's be clear about the language: "field dressing" and "processing" are just softer words for skinning, gutting, and dismemberment. If you're talking about survival, that's one thing. Humans have always made hard choices when there were no alternatives. But when alternatives exist, eating animals is a choice—and pretending otherwise is dishonest. Factory farming exists so people don't have to face what they're supporting. Slaughterhouses are hidden for a reason. Violence is outsourced and sanitized. Look at the dairy industry. A cow can live around 20 years. In industrial systems she's used up and dead by about 4–6. Forced into repeated pregnancies. Her calves taken from her almost immediately. Anyone who's spent time around cows knows they grieve—mothers will walk for miles and cry for days searching for their babies. Or look at the egg industry. Male chicks—millions of them—are considered waste. They're thrown into plastic bags and left to suffocate, or dropped alive into industrial grinders within hours of hatching, because they can't lay eggs. View quoted note → All of this happens at massive scale. Most agricultural land isn't used to feed people—it's used to feed livestock in feedlots. Forests cleared. Water drained. Bodies broken early. Not for survival, but for preference. And here's where the story people tell themselves really falls apart: which animals get a pass is almost entirely cultural. At some point, people decided dogs were off the menu. Horses too. Cats became family. In other parts of the world, those lines are drawn differently. In India, cows are revered. In Japan, the Nara deer—sika deer—are treated as sacred. In Australia, you can buy kangaroo meat at the grocery store. Ask the average American if they'd eat kangaroo and most would recoil. Ask them about deer, and it's completely normalized. Same animal. Different story. View quoted note → Religion often functions the same way. Some people point to scripture and claim humans were given dominion—that we're the "top" species and therefore granted a moral pass to kill other living beings. But that's one interpretation, from one religion, written in a specific historical context. It isn't universal truth—it's narrative authority. And even within those texts, stewardship and care are just as present as dominance. What gets emphasized depends on who's doing the interpreting—and what they're trying to justify. That's why I say this isn't about necessity—it's about narrative. If dairy truly came from animals who were loved, respected, and allowed to live full lives, I'd be vegetarian without hesitation. But that's not the system we have. What we have is industrialized exploitation, justified by tradition, convenience, culture, and selectively interpreted belief. There's also a reason this ideology has been marketed almost entirely to men. The meat industry spent decades selling the idea that "real men eat meat." It worked. To this day, it's one of the only things many men are socially encouraged to cook. That narrative wasn't accidental—it was profitable. Even Arnold Schwarzenegger has spoken publicly about how deeply that myth was sold—and how, after multiple major heart surgeries, he was forced to confront reality, face the facts for himself, and shift to a mostly plant-based diet. View quoted note → I'm vegan—not because I think I'm morally superior, and not because I haven't looked at the science, but because I have. And because animal rights actually mean something to me. If you believe in freedom, autonomy, and sovereignty, those principles don't magically stop applying when the subject can't speak your language. When alternatives exist, eating animals is a choice. An animal doesn't just walk around as food. And outsourcing violence doesn't absolve anyone of responsibility—it's still murder. View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → #IKITAO #AnimalRights #GoVegan
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Because they want to conquer and not work together as one is simplest answer. Bluntly: they seek to draw power from OUTSIDE sources because they lack something within. I’ve done it.
Yes, @Essencial, agreed!! The energetic field is essential for our species to take seriously. Moreover, I love @Ava response—very well articulated! Carnism is a religion, a third‑rate ideology that binds our species back from evolving. The hubris of individuals who believe that caging, torturing, raping, and murdering a sentient being is acceptable—or even “normal”—is unfathomable. It is a harmful belief system that claims you are a “god” who can dictate what to do with another sentient being’s body, as if it were your property. That is fucked up! You have no right to another sentient being’s body. If you think otherwise, you do not fully understand property rights and, at the root, you are self‑loathing. Because of this religion, animal sacrifice occurs nonstop on this planet—24/7. This pours a tremendous amount of suffering into the energetic field. We then wonder why our species is continually at war, experiencing unending murders and rapes, and why we keep losing our own property rights to tyrannical, murderous governments. Our actions are a mirror; how we treat innocent sentient beings will be exactly what we receive from the universe. The evolution of our species does not have a good outlook. We must move forward, expand our knowledge of nature, and come into harmony with it, shedding these religious ideologies. Hope lies in a proper understanding and action that fosters harmony with ourselves and every other species. View quoted note →