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"EU workers become cash cows for America"
Juraj's avatar Juraj
So there’s going to be a different problem with that age verification proposal of EU. You’ll need officially Google- (and Apple-) approved firmware, otherwise your phone’s processor won’t give an attestation and the age verification won’t go through. Goodbye Linux, goodbye GrapheneOS, goodbye LineageOS. Only corporate systems. https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/1mau7yl/eu_age_verification_app_to_ban_any_android_system/
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You're right, but you can opt out of some KYCs of products and services simply not buying/consuming them. On the other hand, there is a new KYC flavour that's harder to opt out of and could make you illegal
Juraj's avatar Juraj
So there’s going to be a different problem with that age verification proposal of EU. You’ll need officially Google- (and Apple-) approved firmware, otherwise your phone’s processor won’t give an attestation and the age verification won’t go through. Goodbye Linux, goodbye GrapheneOS, goodbye LineageOS. Only corporate systems. https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/1mau7yl/eu_age_verification_app_to_ban_any_android_system/
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As If I would do age verification in the first place 😂 If your app/service forces me to verify I'm not gonna use it anymore.
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Russo 5 months ago
Its more goodbye centralized platforms. If you downgrade to comply you dont deserve freedom tech.
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GelatoEconomist 5 months ago
Is it because of good lobby, laziness or stupidity? Thousands of people may be outside the system because they oppose corporate surveillance, control and data abuse.
Trojan horse for digital ID as well. We will have to prove we are over 16 here come December to use anything our government considers social media, everything from YouTube to playing Minecraft online will be illegal for 16 and under. The digital id is going to be the "convenient" "easy" way to verify who you are. I'm sure the age limit will get overturned once enough people sign up for the digital id, then they'll just make the id itself mandatory. The corporations just want to be able to track all of us better, to understand our purchasing habits and whatever else, to sell more garbage to us that makes us stupid and weak.
"The app was downloaded from the Play Store (thus requiring a Google account)" - Thought they were against app store monopolies...Left ass cheek doesn't know what the right ones doing.
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xSilentG 5 months ago
Juraj's avatar Juraj
So there’s going to be a different problem with that age verification proposal of EU. You’ll need officially Google- (and Apple-) approved firmware, otherwise your phone’s processor won’t give an attestation and the age verification won’t go through. Goodbye Linux, goodbye GrapheneOS, goodbye LineageOS. Only corporate systems. https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/1mau7yl/eu_age_verification_app_to_ban_any_android_system/
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Cool, so they handed a single tech behemoth a monopoly over the entire continent? Whatever the “European dream” was (if such a thing ever even existed) is dead. They deserve what they get.
You have it upside down. I will never sacrifice freedom for a little convenience (surveillance).
Yes and no. Their problem with app store monopolies is that the payments go through them. They don't have a problem with control over free apps. They actually enjoy it that they can kick out non compliant apps. In their worldview it's not that you are able to replace one store with another, but that you have a choice to use multiple stores.
We'll see. They got their way with the annoying cookie banners worldwide, so I'm not ruling out global impact unfortunately.
Then you end up in less valuable services. Value of the network is proportional to n^2, n- number of users. It's like the Uber alternative with two drivers who are always busy. Yes, you can use them, but you have to book your ride one day in advance.