There are no incentives, you get more on the street. 😂 Billionaires will give them a fucking cent "because scarce".

What audience 😂

Right haha

😂😂

And then ask “Why don’t we have more content on Nostr?” 🤣

In case you're bored af and you decide to bully the devs, through memes, into removing the likes from apps, I would zap with pleasure. 😂

Is someone still asking for to #nostr ?

Caveat: I don’t spend much time thinking about social media and incentives but here’s a thought. Could one build a tool for cross posting between platforms? For example, a musician uploads a video to said tool, selects the platforms for the post (nostr being an option). This reduces friction, and might help the chicken-egg content problem on nostr. If the tool had a way to track engagement/monetization across platforms, this might provide incentive. That said, it requires cheapskates to zap more than 1 sat.

For anyone creating art/music/content, social media is an absolute must, and incentives are everything. Cross-posting works for publishing content, and isn’t all bad, but cross posting doesn’t work for growing an audience, especially not on a network like nostr where any growth is organic and there are no algos recommending your content. People want interaction and reciprocal engagement, not just the same video/content you posted on 3 other social media platforms.

In other words, what is a professional musician/artist/creator’s time worth on Nostr? After all, “Time is money.” View quoted note →

Right, I see. Friction isn’t the issue, it’s the time commitment to grow a following organically. And feel like that time is well spent.

Very minor clout. And playing around with a lightning wallet instead of likes or emojis.

Nostr's inherent incentive is that it's freedom tech. Most normies just don't yet care about freedom tech. IMO, it's a waste of time trying to convince someone by dangling an incentive they just don't care about. Instead, I would try to educate them (assuming they are at all receptive to being educated) on why they should recognize freedom tech in general as being important to them - then, convincing won't be necessary.

I think of this often. View quoted note →

the only incentive is value for value if it works. Tried it before with buddies from the label I used to Collab and produce for. they didn't buy it. They went for building a fan base and a reputation on TikTok. 🙄🤦🏾‍♂️ Most people just want an audience. It's very difficult to grow one on Nostr where everyone is just ready to put you under a microscope 🔬

The main difference is that the authenticity of their content is not reliant a third party, and they are free to shoot themselves in the foot by losing their keys( or worse, getting them stolen). There you go. All the other places can simply dissapear, or dissapear you, and soviet style you never existed in the first place

I.e. "their" social media accounts were never theirs to begin with; Nostr is the only option in this regard. Now they either value that, or not. They either see the vision that their audience follows them, and get their content, regardless of what app people use...or they dont. They either want to set a step (however small and marginal) towards liberating themselves from all this platform bullshit, or they dont. And if they dont....just shame them for being a giant cucked faggot and move on

It comes down to potential risk vs. potential reward. The potential risk of having an account rugged by Youtube/X/etc. is outweighed by the potential reward of building meaningful revenue streams for their business. Nostr lessens the risk of being rugged, but has very low potential for building revenue streams.

When I talk to musicians, "discovery" is the word they use most frequently. They want people to hear their music, and I think word of mouth is still the best form of marketing, so if they come over to Nostr they get to interact with a unique group of individuals with varied interests and areas of expertise from around the world. It's intimate. They might even enjoy feeling like a big fish in a small pond. And if the musician can set up a wallet or build a node, they can EARN Bitcoin rather than worry about buying it. There's tons of people here willing to help with the technical aspects too, like opening channels. Coming from the Podcasting 2.0 world, I encourage all musicians to host their art on their own website via RSS and run a node when they get serious about Bitcoin. That's the truly decentralized foundation with no third parties to censor their work or rugpull their value. Once their RSS feed is added to the Podcast Index, music shows can play their songs and redirect incoming sats straight to their wallet when a song is played V4V which is another opportunity to earn both exposure and sats. Oh, but also the opportunity to collaborate with other freedom-minded folks here is real and truly valuable. 💜

Do they understand the risk? And do they want to put in the effort of establishing the alternative. If they cant be bothered, neither should you

Do you understand the risk? Do you understand the lack of any financial incentive to be here?

I am not saying they should leave those other places. Milk them for what they are worth while it lasts. But don't come crying when for whatever reason that party stops and they have to start from 0, while they could have started from 0 right now already

Start from zero on Nostr and you’ll still be at zero 3 years later. Where’s the incentive?

1: I don't think that is true 2: We are back where we started so just re-read the thread

How necessary is Nostr in that picture? Or maybe “necessary” isn’t the right word. How big a role have you seen Nostr playing in all of that? 

Weak. Thanks for trying though.

I already told you that the only reason is to be part of the solution, however marginal that may be. And i also already told you that if they can't be bothered, there is nothing else. Ergo, you should have just re-read the thread. Im not trying anything, this is what it is

You sure do like the smell of your own ass an awful lot. Got your head far enough it in that’s for damn sure.

I definitely don't think it's necessary, but it can be fun. @ChadF and 33 others even suggests adding npubs to RSS feeds for social interaction. There's been some incredible talent discovered through Nostr that have embraced DeMu, and I think all of those artists benefit from the peer-to-peer interaction and opportunities to be interviewed by the writers here or podcast hosts. Plus some of them came into it knowing nothing about Bitcoin but craving a censorship-resistant social media like @Matt Finlay -- and now he's out here building a node! It's been a faster no-coiner to coiner pipeline than interacting with local businesses or people adjacent to our local meetups.

It takes some time to set up but once you're good you're good. From there you get back what you put in. The money you make selling merch and media typically only comes from maybe 5% of your fans. These are the fans that "matter" so to speak. These are your superfans who actually support you monetarily. Nostr is unique in that it is a small pond, and you can be a big fish. Not only that, its full of fanatics who will pay you just because you are on nostr. While right now, you won't earn what you would elsewhere in terms of dollars and cents... but you have a real chance to capture a huge percentage of 5%-ers. How many followers do you have on spotify? 5k? All you need is another 5% of paying fans (150) to double whatever it is you're making now. You can relatively easily build a small but loyal paying fan base here. Would you rather have 1,000 freeloading fans earning you zero or 1 paying super fan? Nostr and demu gives your audience an opportunity to pay you directly every time they stream your music. They have the chance to send you messages and interact. You can livestream your shows and rehersals to earn more fans and money that way too. The constant interactivity creates hardened 5% fans who pay you daily. You get out what you put in. Start stacking paying fans and you can eventually have a steady sustainable income.

Nostr is a super easy sell for anyone wanting to step away from centralization - that's me. Bitcoin is purely optional for nostr imho. I don't understand why more people (not just artists) aren't moving instead of only whining and moaning about censorship and bans. I found nostr by searching for solutions rather than workarounds.