managed to block the gay porn spam on the damus relay for now... I will keep on top of it.
we don't have a policy against gay porn in general, but if you spam peoples threads and notifications with it you will be blocked.
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So you've implemented...Cock blocks

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You had to clear that up with gay porn being absolutely normal lmao
Damus is apparently provides a 'Cock Block' service now.
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managed to block the gay porn spam on the damus relay for now... I will keep on top of it.
we don't have a policy against gay porn in general, but if you spam peoples threads and notifications with it you will be blocked.
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I got a gay porn reply saying “sign up to nostr.land to block me.” Is nostr.land extorting people with gay porn spam, or is someone trying to defame nostr.land?
Stop this immediately! What you're doing is genocide, and you're the second Hitler.So you dónt like to relay spam?
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Whoever is doing this is disgusting.
Impersonating devs like @Vitor Pamplona and @jb55, and my relay service @npub1gt9g...lxjt to discredit it, because they have nothing better to do.
Advertising services through (porn) spam is not something I stand by.
I may know who it is but I will not share until I can fully confirm.
Please renote.
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Thanks, that’s kind of what I figured.
"managed to block the gay porn... for now... I will keep on top of it."
I laughed.
i think an anti-spam policy in general is good.
yeah
i remember the days of nigerian princes
If you don’t like it switch to knots.
why not fight spam with prove of work?
doesn’t work. spammers are better at PoW then phones. also wastes battery
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Wish I had time to make and manage a relay that blocks all porn.
the best solution is likely at the relay layer
the ReplyGuy seems kind of nice now
Thanks for everything including this
Didn’t know this was a thing happening 👀 🤯
1) Gay porn is totally OK
2) For the 100th time, I am telling you that trying to block explicit images by messing in complicated ways with your relays is never going to fucking work.
3) The only way to block explicit images to to SCAN THE IMAGES using the same image-recognition techniques that Google/Facebook/Whatever have been using now for 15+ years
4) I have developed a system that will do this for Nostr, which I am currently offering for the reasonable price of FREE for ANYONE who wants to implement it into their Nostr app:
5) You are also free to copy my technique and do it yourself if you have some GPUs and are handy with machine learning inference

How we can prevent Nostr from ruining our day | Megalith Lightning Docs
Nostr has a problem with explicit content. Let's look at this from the perspective of a typical Nostr user.
perfect is the enemy of good. everything has tradeoffs. we will of course use client side content detection as long as it doesn't impact performance or battery too much
Yes. Relays just need to run a plugin which hits an API to score the images.
nah they really don't.
smart clients, dumb relays.
😂😂😂
good luck with that on client side only.
no centralized APIs though as it needs to be a protocol level
Dumb protocol, smart policy
I like that but how do we keep censorship decentralized like SMTP?
You mean *unlike* SMTP? Signatures and relay hints
SMTP works at scale but is not sufficiently decentralized. nostr doesnt need all the header stuff just dynamic relay reputation
hopefully one day way can free from dns and own protocols OSI layer 5-7
big tech inbox relays got too powerful
please don't repeat my generation's system design mistakes #IETF
Disagree
On 'smart relays & dumb clients'
When considering the concept of "smart clients and dumb relays," it is crucial to clearly define what "smart" and "dumb" represent in this context. The term "dumb" does not imply that relays lack control, complexity, or sophisticated policies regarding storage and distribution. Relays actively select what information to store, how long they store it, and under what conditions they provide access. Their decisions may differ significantly, allowing specialization that enriches the ecosystem.
Instead, the "dumb" attribute specifically describes the simplicity and universality of queries that relays support. Dumb relays provide a standardized interface rather than specialized queries serving individual client needs. This simplicity ensures interoperability; a client can interact with any relay without compatibility issues. The client side is "smart," equipped with all the logic necessary for determining what data to request, where to find it, how to interpret and present it. The client is responsible for the complexity and specificity of interactions.
This paradigm achieves clear separation; relays generalize data delivery, while clients handle intelligent interpretation and functionality. As a result, users remain free to switch between different clients, confident that basic connections remain intact across a diverse relay landscape. Differences in relay behavior—such as acceptance criteria or data availability—do not compromise this fundamental interoperability. Rather, its the interoperability that allows relays freedom from any obligation to represent a global network viewpoint.
Therefore, maintaining a simple relay query interface preserves interoperability, encourages client diversity, and allows relays to specialize according to their own preferences and policies. This setup captures the complementary principles behind smart clients and dumb relays.
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Nostr feels much better after removing the damus relay.
Stay on top!
Easy, same way the experimental feature in element / adblocks do it. You create block lists people can subscribe to in their client regardless of which relay. Both blacklist and whitelist modes. That way people can tailor the experience tp their liking using lists they trust. If a list gets overly censorious you just replace it.
Internet censorship in a decentralized platform /s
relays are allowed to censor all they want. you get censorship resistance by connecting to multiple relays.
connect to a relay that allows gay porn spam in threads if you want that.
it is very easy to automate the provision on new npubs to spam with so I don't see how blacklists at that level would work at scale
whitelists would work but be suboptimal imho
Blocklists and web of trust will never work. Image scanning works but for some reason nobody wants to do this.
If there is a standard list thats one step to automating them with automatic scraping.
any subscriptions or lists need to be decentralized as it's the nostr way
nah nah nah you should totes ban porn in general
you the best … how are you doing on the child porn? can we get these ppl in a private prison somewhere? thanx, xoxo 💋
its really something the image hosts need to be on top of, if there’s anything we can do to help we will.