It’s pretty obvious that primal’s priority is developing a client for influencers. Deleting primal✌️ image
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This response is total BS and is starting to seem like an excuse to just not fix the reply bug. Primal keeps shipping new features and funding shirtless men to advertise this app but it doesn’t even work properly. I literally can’t have a basic conversation with people in a small thread (3 or more people). Do you understand how much of a problem that is? Right now, if a mobile primal user responded to this note, you will NOT see it in your notifications. Why wouldn’t you want to see that? The reply could say something critical of your update and you’d never know. Someone is jumping into the conversation with all of us. That’s the point but you’ll never see it if they’re a mobile primal user. You’ll see it if you’re using damus or another client. I usually have to tell new primal users to switch to damus so they can actually engage in threads. Because we’re not all influencers, we want to see all notifications addressed to us. And if we don’t, we just mute. When they switch, it immediately improves their nostr experience. This is how people grow their follower base and find new people to engage with so they don’t have to go back to X. That’s the point of talking publicly on nostr instead of just jumping into DMs. Why would you have a conversation out in the open if you don’t want to see other people’s replies? Primal mobile literally degrades the nostr experience. Do you understand that? People join nostr on primal and think it’s dead then leave. Well maybe they wouldn’t think nostr is dead if they could see their damn notifications! And if you’re getting too many notifications, you can just hit the mute button. Mobile primal is the only platform I’m aware of that doesn’t support this basic feature. And yeah I know hellthreads are a problem but this bug was here before those threads became an issue and the easy fix is to just mute the hellthread. Not mute normal notifications. And who are these users that don’t want to be tagged in a 3 person thread? Most primal users have no idea this is a problem and it’s what makes primal unusable as a standalone client. I miss countless notifications on primal. I can’t use this client anymore. And you guys lose plenty of users to other clients because of this. I know because I have to explain to primal users that this bug exists and that it’s on the list of things to be fixed that never gets fixed. They’re shocked to know how many replies they never saw and they end up switching to damus or another client. If you guys want to retain users, this issue needs to be fixed immediately. Also you guys have been telling me that this issue will be fixed for close to 2 years now and I just don’t believe you guys are actually going to do anything about it. I really like primal and wanna keep using it but this shit is not usable. And these little AI features and new influencer studio setups are not good enough to overcome a basic bug. Primal gets a lot of shit from the nostr community because you guys do some unconventional things but I’ve always defended primal because I think we’re all on the same team trying to grow nostr. But I don’t appreciate being dicked around. If you guys aren’t going to fix this issue, then just say so. You, miljan, and Odell said this was a priority issue that was going to be fixed. Now you’re saying it’s not after nearly two years of me asking. Stop wasting my time. I’m deleting primal until this gets resolved.
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Fuck Primal. They leave paying customers on read then give you the PR “the stripper loves you” bullshit answer. Primal premium expires at the end of November. They’re not getting anything from me after that
Oh that would be disappointing for me because I couldn't figure out a wallet except through primal, but for everything else except zaps I use other clients. I promise I don't repost Twitter trash please guys I'm cool I swear 😭
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sachin 3 months ago
Just checked. Well-handled by them GG Reminds me of how they listened to user feedback on the external signer feature and added it, another one of those flashy updates (which I wanted, so no complaints 😂) Sometimes devs tend to be adamant about the software they build and what they prioritize. I suppose that's normal. Damus folks straight up said no to external signers and didn't even want to listen. So I just haven't bothered to use it or download it despite waiting for a long time for it to come on Android 😂
Oh I appreciate it but I’m not gonna forget the other times when I got no response. I know others who have complained multiple times and gotten no response either. It’s a professional response but motivated by damage control.
The stripper doesn't love me???? He said after college we'd be together... Next you're going to tell me he's not even enrolled. But seriously I've not heard much good about primal, I'm an amethyst lady because of pixel phone with grapheneOS. It may not be the best client, but I like ut.
I like joining in on the no shirt razzing. Having never used it, I don't have a dog in the fight other than I want people to have a good time on nostr and that's not going to happen if you're set up to follow people who never post and don't engage when they do post.
The zapping lightning bolt animation on nostur...I need that 😂. We were trying to onboard some friends, damus wouldn't load any posts and primal was fucked so we ended up with nostur 🤷‍♀️. They didn't stay, but it was worth a shot...
Bro, I’ve literally been playing with @YakiHonne all day because you got me thinking yesterday. And now I’m here…I’m also done paying for the “Premium” every month. As always, I appreciate all the raw conversations.
I don’t mind paying for something if I feel it’s good value. Don’t see why I should pay for primal when all these other clients are free and mostly better.
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Lucas M 3 months ago
Both. I use it through Keychat.
Sort of? lol I’m complaining about a simple bug that they don’t want to fix. I don’t think they’re malicious but they seem to be focused on the wrong things
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Lucas M 3 months ago
You and many others are beginning to complain more and more about this. Primal is the least nostr-like I've ever seen.
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Lucas M 3 months ago
If you download Keychat you should be able to use it. It loads the fastest and I like how you can curate your feed by choosing from individual relays.
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Lucas M 3 months ago
Honestly, I'm not sure what it is either, but many clients seem prejudice against it.
Keychat is the super app for Bitcoiners. Autonomous IDs, Bitcoin ecash wallet, secure chat, and rich Mini Apps — all in Keychat. Autonomy. Security. Richness. A Nostr web app can be used as a Mini App inside the Keychat browser.
It's a bit choppier on Keychat. On Android I find Firefox the best, then Chrome, then keychat. On desktop it runs good, my oldest machine I test on is a 2014 MacBook Air, which is okay. I've also noticed issues with brave fwiw.
The Keychat Browser is essentially a WebView (built into the operating system). We need to explore how to optimize it.
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sachin 3 months ago
That's fair! Hope they get that feature in finally
It's the same basic software as jumble.social, but I forked it and added a Reddit-like forum, public messaging, and some new default relays like wss://nostr.land and wss://orly-relay.imwald.eu
It's the forum-thread kind, like Chachi and Flotilla use. But their forums are limited to particular community events, and mine are just straight to relays. That's why everyone can see them. I might add in their communukeys-based threads, as well. We'll see.
Primal made design choices that work great for a certain kind of user. We are not that kind of user. We do not like that kind of user.