6 months ago I listed to a podcast about Vine and its history. It got me thinking, how hard could it be to bring Vine back, but open and on Nostr. That lead to me building divine.video and announcing it in November. It got tons of attention, and I’ve been working hard to fix my vibe coded prototype in to something which would be usable by mainstream noobies. The Nostr tech and community has been critical to this, I couldn’t have done it without you all. The podcast, Vine: 6 seconds that changed the world, reached out to me and they’ve put out an episode about Divine! It’s really good, talks about how divine came to be and really gets in to our movement for open permissionless protocols. They do it in a way that’s not technical or overly jargony. Please take a listen and share it.

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the axiom 1 week ago
how can divine say it is free of AI slop while being itself AI slop? isn't that a blatant contradiction?
Yep some folks will definitely choose purity, that’s your choice. Its open source and you’re free to build an artisanal version by hand. I don’t think there will be any consumer apps in 2026 that didn’t use agentic tools for development. If you actually want to know how we deal with AI generated content read divine.video/proofmode
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campusalot 1 week ago
disingenuous to reduce contradiction to a matter of purity philosophical concerns, procedural concerns, labor concerns, environmental concerns, technical concerns, psychological concerns when all of this is then placed in the current sociopolitical terrain, located in current time pretty wild
That is fair. The bigger question I think is how much is this going to cost users? Since they'll be shouldering the infra costs at the end of the day.
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campusalot 1 week ago
it's ok btw. im not saying this in an elevated way like that's some great intentional ideological evil or crime. on another level, what im responding to in a broader sense is the manufacturing of consensus by retconning inevitability from a future that is not yet determined. a way of narrowing the future, erasing options, missing oportunities to recalibrate and course correct. like well, now this is here. adapt to it and innovate or become obsolete and perish. like imagine if the innovation of better waterproof eyeliner in the early two thousands meant once you became emo aesthetically, that was that. clearly a superior product. dark waterlines forever more. funny to think about.
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the axiom 1 week ago
then a good AI video is not slop? I don't think that's what they're marketing irrelevant point anyway
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the axiom 1 week ago
what costs? there are no costs, read the explanation it's a dumb way of preventing slop, like why are pgp keys involved?, but still it doesnt look like there will be any cost
I meant costs for all the media serving and storage, and cloud infra in general. I agree with you the proving part is a bit wobbly in terms of messaging, but not so much for the fact the app was heavily vibed. More because the max-proof certification relies absolutely on Apple and Google's servers. You could easily call that an advertisement for the benefits of centralisation. Normally that's fine, centralisation does have benefits, and when apps are honest about it then good. What irks me is this screw you apple/thank you apple love-hate thing.
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the axiom 1 week ago
I guess anyone without an apple device will be automatically tagged as AI slop and excluded from the divine commonwealth so much for censorship resistance
But what about the cloud costs for the CDN, storage, etc.? The idea is each user covers their own costs? And relay costs too, but to a much smaller degree. Or is the idea to bootstrap growth by offering subsidies options to start?
Like if a 6s clip goes viral and gets 100k views that's say 2 or 3 TB served, and in a sort period of time. (Proving transcoding of proven video is another issue I'm curious how you'd tackle). My guess is this media.divine.video is going to be pretty heavily subsidised for a while, and that's cool, but it would be good to see transparent costs and projections for the infra behind that.
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the axiom 1 week ago
who cares about these costs? thry have enough money just get a million users and sell to facebook later
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