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Who dis?
Liking? You means satsless zapping 😮💨
Ppl simpimg for the rich n infloooencers is gross
Love this idea! I feel like there’s a whole client (or even client-level setting) that could be built around this concept.
This. This right here is interesting. NOSTR so good bro.
Interesting idea — seems like it should be easy to select that mode as an option at least, experiment with it.
🔥anti-ad-hominem-client🔥
good idea
(not saying this because you are Snowden)
Interesting. Maybe even have the ability to time lock the post. Say, post anonymously for 24 hours to allow for neutral discourse, and reveal after a certain time lock.
Yep, I personally like nostr without all the verification, avatars, bios and what not. Just npubs, messages and relays. Your identity is your signature and your ideas rest on their merit, not your name. "You" becomes the things you think and say, and proof that the same entity said them.
Do you zap everytime you "react" to a reply or note?
an anon mode or an anon feed would be pretty nice, would get to meet a lot of new people, which i’d otherwise might not meet.
reddit has struck a pretty nice balance with that, it’s mostly anon, but as a long time user in a specific subreddit, you start recognising some of the folk there.
curious if there’s a way to apply it here
It used to be like this in the early days when relays had trouble serving user data. We’d just see posts from npubs and had to figure them out ourselves.
Maybe clients could offer a setting to not fetch profiles
wish i could’ve been part of those days 🤔
maybe there will be a client, that’ll be low data mode, clears cache on a daily, and fully anon.
So many people want to try this feature. Even edward.
I think a lot of this boils down to the twitter-style of most apps. But it doesn't have to be that way. There are clients catering more to communities or topic-based follows. Which sort of gets rid of the parasocial aspects, for the most part at least.
Nostrudel is a great client for communities, if you haven't tried.
Nostrudel.ninja
Sounds like a good hackathon idea.
i may end up part of a client development, so let’s see how things turn out 💜
at the end of the, i’m just a curious pleb, that’s all 🙏
Interesting.
And here I thought establishing a reputation mattered.. 🫤
Snow-mode
I've been an advocate of anonymous social media right from the start. IMO, social media should be a big blank wall onto which anyone may "tag", like graffiti. The promise of social media is the exchange of information and ideas, not aggrandisement nor ad hominem attacks.
Human communication relies on a schema that includes some context on the sender of the information. Am I receiving this information from my mother? from CNN? from a dude on Telegram I kinda know? All of this IS critical data that informs your processing of it. To remove or hide the sender on purpose IMO would be devastating to the actual sense of communication between humans and people would not like it. Additionally, you become much more susceptible to manipulation by spam bots if you lose the metadata of source.
This happens for me as well. Nostr over Tor is not a good experience, but it feels safe.
View quoted note →Good idea. Mystery & then some transparency to clarify the author’s point of view— even though it can be fluid & not static in certain situations. And this nostr bug happened to me recently— I think.
@Leathermint issa visionary
Cool idea, maybe a fun toggle for a client. How often would we use it though if it was voluntary?
I just added 2 years to your filter.nostr.wine account for you. This should help with that profile loading over tor! Let me know if you notice any improvement.
bera a visionary 🤙
no 🧢
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i can haz
@Edward Snowden zap?
for the culture?
plz ser mi famili :3
This is very interesting idea. But how would you solve that social status thing where guy with 12000 followers simply gives bigger impression than someone with 200 every time you'll open their bio? Hide it? Some people dig being followed and build around it and I believe we need these idiots here as well. For growth we need to attract bunch of people addicted to their social media status.
We've become used to be identified online. I recently started using simplex chat as anonymous user and really like the idea of being unidentifiable . even if you do not know my legal name in nostr, my nostr name "hypnagog" simply becomes my surrogate identity.
A chat system where posts aren't linked to any type of identifier is a great idea.
That's a revealing thought...
View quoted note →Since Ed Snowden said it, I think it's a great idea! What does #[2] think?
Looking forward to the day MSM ask "Do we even know who this 'No stir' is?" and they proceed to breakdown all possible reasons they might have against stirring
Oh this is an interesting concept, I like it👌🪄 you might be onto something. 🧐💭
Like on merit, not on person?
#onlyzaps
🫡 (i don’t see huer bolt ser)
View quoted note →Mom is that you?
Snowden coming up with clever ways to get nostriches to argue with eachother 💜🫂
I can't imagine this post on any other form of social media 😂
Brilliant 💯💯🔥
Makes sense, this is why anonymity is useful - it forces you to argue the point, not the person.
View quoted note →This is idea is perfect as it perhaps unwittingly accommodates familiarity as well. If a person knows you well enough to know your identity as a part of your immediate community, they will have no trouble identifying you on the platform, otherwise you are all acquaintances and should be treated as such. I might have misunderstood the concept, admittedly technology is not my strong suit. If I’m talking out of my rear, someone please let me know!
inb4 someone says it... Yes I'm aware it's pronounced "nos tur" 😏😄
😂
Your note reminded me that I don’t even have a like button 😄
😎🤝😎
That would actually help equalize the playing field a lot. If not, network effects skew things a lot.
how would I use #nostr with #tor?
we we mean client behind tor? relays on tor?
#asknostr
It is an interesting dynamic when you just see an npub and an isolated expression of an idea or concept.
The idea stands alone.
I like to think that I don't factor in the noter with the note, but I know this is not the case.
Completely agree. Egos interfere. It's exactly what we envisaged in our app where you can interact with people / content based on their credibility in your graph, instead of their public persona.
free speech is terrorism
Do you not recognise people you interact with a lot from their writing style (and topics)? I haven't tried this but I feel like I would recognise at least some people fairly consistently even if their avatar and name were hidden.
#nostor
I think this account (no idea who) has a good point and something worth exploring. The hard part would be implantation. Do we give user a choice to opt-in or opt-out, default or configured. 🐶🐾🤔
We used to have to follow ourselves to see replies 😂 the Wild West.
Great idea!
super interesting
I’m going to start using “ramshackle” in more of my bug reports. 😂⚡️
I actually just went through this TOR display issue with a previous post you made. Initially, I saw your note and started to respond. Then, the network caught up, and your profile populated, so I second guessed myself and deleted my response.
My reaction made me scratch my head a bit. But, I think there is some internalized pressure to make some profound thought in response to bigger accounts. Maybe the high level of visibility is intimidating.
nostr のバグのせいで、ソーシャル メディアで TL 上の投稿を *作成者* 非表示にして、一種の二重盲検視点を強制するのは、実際には非常に素晴らしいことかもしれないと思いつきました。 その投稿や返信が自分がフォローしている人の誰かからのものである (またはおそらくそうである) ことはわかっているでしょうが、ただ単に非難しているだけではない場合は、すぐには同意しないでしょう (そしておそらく、もっと積極的に反対するかもしれません)。 あなたはその人が好きだから、反射的にハートボタンを押します。 あなたが一般的に好きで尊敬している人とまだ話しているが、それが「インターネット上のあの人」なのか、それとも実際の母親なのかはわからないとわかっていれば、議論はより共同的なものになり、意見の相違は個人的なものではなくなるかもしれません 。
(Nostr は、Tor のサポートが不安定なため、プロフィールを正しく取得せずに、人々からのメモを表示することがよくあります。そのため、私は、名前やアバターをまったく知らずに、人々に「いいね」をしたり、返信したり、フォローしたりしていることに気づきました)
(Google翻訳)
View quoted note →Love it.
A client side feature would be interesting.
Is this Lana Del Rey?
Primal has this problem w/o Tor.
Liked this before reading all the way.
I like it
Hahaha, this one had me 🤣
There is a trade off between privacy and value. The reputation building aspect of nostr is one of its virtues.
There's no reason why this could not be one the custom feeds you switch between.
Let's say "Blind Discovery":
DVM's could help with filtering through notes that might interest you, that you didn't see yet (or any other algorithm). Then display all of that blinded.
#customfeeds
To achieve this technically, perhaps you could take a zero-knowledge proof of the note and conceal the author… 24 hours later, the author could reveal the full note proving it was them.
Proving the note was authored by a non-spam user, without revealing the author, would also be important for relays to avoid getting spammed with these shadow notes.
Interesting 🤔
good idea
It's a great idea, and it could be implemented at the client level (hiding data from pubkeys) without affecting the experience of other users. I like it!
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⚡zap this note on snort.social, amethyst or on any client that supports zap splits
View quoted note →kinda like 4chan, but more circle jerky
A sound challenge
I think we need to improve the tor support. :)
And relays with onion addresses. 🧅
🙌
I like this 🤗
like this right?
NSA has entered the chat.
Thats why I only zap
Bitcoin fixes this, too.
This reminds me of the ‘love is blind’ experiment from OkCupid a decade ago. On Valentines day they turned off all photos and let people match and find potential partners based on text alone.
the Guardian
OKCupid: we experiment on users. Everyone does
Dating service’s co-founder claims it lied to users to test theory about compatibility. By Alex Hern
Users hated it, use of the app went down, but better relationships came out of it. ;-D
There’s a show on Netflix called “love is blind” where the couple gets to know each other before seeing each other. I wouldn’t say the results have been amazing, but some people do seem to form deeper connections that way.
this sounds like a nice change, maybe as an option.
un-groupthink mode
