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Rob Woodgate rob@nostrly.com 11 months ago
Cashu MultiSig just dropped... opening up atomic swaps and escrow. Meet Cashu Witness. Imagine @calle and @heidi-E want to do a deal, but they don't trust each other. They do, however, both trust me. Calle can lock his payment token to all three of us, requiring 2-of-3 signatures to redeem... and specify a time limit for performance. 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…Šσ „΄σ …‰σ …§σ …‰σ …šσ „½σ „₯σ …Šσ „·σ …Šσ …›σ „Ώσ „΄σ „Ήσ „₯σ „½σ „’σ „Άσ …›σ „½σ …šσ …Šσ …˜σ „½σ „’σ „½σ …§σ „½σ …ͺσ …›σ „ σ …Šσ „΄σ „΅σ …¨σ „½σ …„σ „²σ …σ …Šσ …„σ …“σ „‘σ …Šσ …σ …†σ …™σ „Ήσ …œσ „ σ …£σ …‡σ …©σ „Ίσ …₯σ …ˆσ „£σ „Ύσ … σ …Šσ „£σ „½σ …™σ „Όσ „΄σ „Άσ …”σ „Όσ „Άσ …£σ …™σ …“σ …σ …†σ …σ …”σ …‡σ „₯󠅛󠄹󠅙󠅧󠅙󠄽󠄴󠄹󠄑󠄽󠄷󠅁σ „₯σ „Ύσ „·σ …Šσ …šσ „½σ …σ …σ „€σ „Ύσ …„σ …—σ …§σ …‰σ …ͺ󠅉󠄀󠄽󠅝󠄹󠅧󠄾σ …ͺσ „Άσ …˜σ „Ύσ …„σ …σ …©σ …Šσ …šσ …˜σ …™σ „½σ …‡σ ……σ …ͺσ „½σ …‡σ „΅σ …©σ „½σ „΄σ „²σ …™σ „½σ „΄σ ……σ …§σ „Ώσ „·σ „Ίσ …˜σ …‰σ …šσ …›σ „‘σ …‰σ …„σ „½σ …ͺσ …‰σ …σ …†σ …σ „½σ „΄σ …—σ „‘σ „Ύσ …‡σ …‚σ …σ „½σ …šσ …—σ …¨σ …Šσ „΄σ …‰σ …ͺσ „Ήσ …œσ „‘σ …”σ …–σ …†σ „‘σ …˜σ …‰σ „‘σ …—σ …˜σ „±σ „©σ „©σ „€σ …—σ …›σ …σ …§σ „±σ „Ήσ „½σ …Ÿσ …ͺσ …©σ …Ÿσ „§σ …•σ „Ίσ „§σ …—σ …‘σ …’σ …§σ …€σ „§σ „σ …€σ „Ώσ …’σ „£σ „±σ „½σ „‘σ „·σ …žσ „Ώσ …™σ …’σ „Ίσ …†σ …‰σ …Ÿσ „₯σ „²σ …‰σ …‡σ …ƒσ …šσ …‰σ …‡σ …†σ …‰σ „Ήσ „Ήσ …‘σ „΅σ …₯σ …§σ …Ÿσ „¦σ …‘σ „Όσ …¦σ „¦σ … σ …“σ „Άσ …ˆσ „§σ „¨σ …˜σ …Šσ …šσ „ σ …šσ „€σ …›σ …©σ …Šσ …§σ …€σ …‘σ …†σ „‘σ …“σ …Ÿσ …£σ „΄σ „€σ „΅σ …”σ …‘σ …£σ „Έσ …œσ …§σ …‰σ …ˆσ „Ύσ …‰σ „Ήσ …€σ …˜σ „³σ …—σ „·σ …œσ „€σ …σ „’σ …•σ …’σ „©σ …§σ ……σ …¦σ …•σ …‡σ „»σ …§σ …€σ …‘σ …˜σ …‚σ „Όσ „¦σ …Ÿσ „σ „‘σ …€σ …šσ …σ „ σ …‰σ „·σ …₯σ … σ …€σ …ƒσ …Šσ „Έσ …¨σ …—σ …—σ …‰σ …ˆσ „Ίσ …‰σ „Ήσ „Ώσ …šσ …„σ …Ÿσ …—σ …’σ …‰σ … σ …„σ …σ …™σ „³σ …šσ …Ÿσ „Ήσ …ˆσ …Šσ …§σ …œσ …ƒσ „Ήσ …„σ …’σ …€σ „Ίσ …˜σ …™σ …€σ ……σ „²σ ……σ „Ύσ …žσ …σ „‘σ …¨σ …ͺσ …—σ „‘σ …¦σ …σ …‘σ …˜ The token can be sent up front, and all parties can see the lock using Cashu Witness. If the deal goes through, I can witness the token and send it on to HeidE, who can then sign and swap it for an unlocked token she can spend (again using Cashu Witness). If the deal falls through, I witness the token and send it back to Calle to cash in. if I get hit by a bus or the deal isn't done in time, Calle can cash in the token when the the token lock expires. image
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Cashu Witness allows you to unlock multisig tokens by signing the proofs with your private key.

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a1denvalu3 11 months ago
We have a proposal for cashu DLCs which I implemented for nutshell, so you could have an ecash DLC between calle and heidE without any intermediary and the Mint would be oblivious to the specifics of the wager.
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Rob Woodgate rob@nostrly.com 11 months ago
Darn it.... in my excitement, the token in the OP was 1-of-3 sig. Here is a 2-of-3 that I have already witnessed. πŸ₯œσ …“σ …‘σ …£σ …˜σ …₯σ „²σ …Ÿσ „’σ „Άσ …€σ …•σ „³σ „Ίσ …Ÿσ …”σ „Έσ …‚σ …§σ …“σ …ͺσ …Ÿσ …¦σ „Όσ „’σ „‘σ … σ …’σ …žσ …σ …₯σ …’σ …‡σ …œσ …₯σ …‘σ …‡σ „Ίσ … σ …”σ „Έσ „½σ …₯σ …‰σ „’σ „Άσ …ͺσ …‘σ „³σ „©σ „³σ …‘σ …ˆσ …‚σ …šσ …’σ „’σ …œσ …₯σ …‰σ …ˆσ …†σ …šσ …“σ „’σ „Άσ „ σ …‰σ …ˆσ …ƒσ „²σ …Ÿσ …σ „Άσ … σ …ƒσ „±σ „²σ …σ „²σ …†σ „΄σ …§σ …ƒσ ……σ „Άσ „·σ …‰σ …ˆσ „³σ „²σ … σ …‡σ „Άσ …˜σ „±σ …‡σ „Άσ …ͺσ …•σ …σ „Άσ …œσ …‡σ …©σ „Ίσ …σ „½σ …œσ „²σ „Όσ „Ήσ …™σ …¨σ „§σ „Ήσ …σ „₯σ …¦σ …’σ …σ „Ύσ …œσ „Ήσ …šσ …Ÿσ …™σ „Ώσ „΄σ ……σ „’σ „Ύσ …σ …‰σ „‘σ …‰σ …„σ …œσ …œσ …‰σ …σ …Šσ …šσ …‰σ …šσ „½σ …¨σ …‰σ …šσ …†σ …˜σ „Ύσ …σ „½σ „£σ …Šσ …šσ „΅σ „’σ „½σ „·σ …‰σ „‘σ „½σ …„σ …σ „ σ …‰σ …‡σ „½σ …ͺσ …Šσ „·σ …Šσ …œσ „Ύσ …σ …Šσ …œσ „½σ …šσ …—σ „£σ „Ύσ „·σ ……σ „‘σ …Šσ …šσ …σ „‘σ „Ύσ …„σ …†σ …šσ …‰σ …„σ „Ίσ …˜σ …‰σ …‡σ „΅σ „£σ „Ώσ „·σ …‰σ …¨σ „½σ …σ „½σ „£σ „Ώσ „³σ „Ήσ …£σ „Ήσ …σ …‚σ …˜σ …”σ „·σ „΅σ …™σ „Ώσ …™σ „Ήσ …§σ „½σ …σ „Ύσ …œσ …‰σ …ͺσ „²σ …σ „Ύσ „΄σ …‚σ …›σ „½σ „·σ …σ „’σ „Ύσ „·σ …σ „’σ …Šσ „΄σ …œσ …›σ „Ύσ „’σ „΅σ …¨σ …‰σ …ͺσ …—σ „ σ …‰σ …ͺσ „½σ …ͺσ „½σ „·σ …‰σ „‘σ „Ύσ „΄σ …‰σ „£σ …Šσ …„σ …“σ „‘σ „½σ …σ „Ύσ …šσ „Ώσ „·σ „Ήσ …§σ „Ύσ …šσ …†σ …σ „Ύσ …ͺσ „Ήσ …§σ …Šσ …„σ …—σ „£σ „Ύσ „·σ „΅σ …§σ …‰σ …σ …†σ …›σ „½σ …‡σ „½σ „‘σ „Ύσ „΄σ „΅σ „’σ …Šσ „΄σ „Ήσ …™σ „Όσ „³σ „Ίσ „ σ …‰σ …‡σ …”σ …ͺσ „Ήσ …šσ … σ …’σ …‡σ …©σ „Ίσ …£σ …’σ „’σ „Ύσ …’σ …”σ „·σ …œσ …€σ …Šσ …ƒσ „Ήσ …£σ „½σ …„σ …“σ „ σ „Ύσ „΄σ ……σ „€σ „Ύσ …„σ „΅σ „ σ „½σ „Άσ „ σ …£σ …‡σ …©σ „Ίσ …§σ …”σ …‡σ „Ίσ …’σ …Šσ …ˆσ …œσ …ͺ󠄹󠅙󠅧󠅙󠄽󠄴󠄹󠄑󠄽󠄷󠅁σ „₯σ „Ύσ „·σ …Šσ …šσ „½σ …σ …σ „€σ „Ύσ …„σ …—σ …§σ …‰σ …ͺ󠅉󠄀󠄽󠅝󠄹󠅧󠄾σ …ͺσ „Άσ …˜σ „Ύσ …„σ …σ …©σ …Šσ …šσ …˜σ …™σ „½σ …‡σ ……σ …ͺσ „½σ …‡σ „΅σ …©σ „½σ „΄σ „²σ …™σ „½σ „΄σ ……σ …§σ „Ώσ „·σ „Ίσ …˜σ …‰σ …šσ …›σ „‘σ …‰σ …„σ „½σ …ͺσ …‰σ …σ …†σ …σ „½σ „΄σ …—σ „‘σ „Ύσ …‡σ …‚σ …σ „½σ …šσ …—σ …¨σ …Šσ „΄σ …‰σ …ͺσ „Ήσ …™σ …§σ …™σ „½σ „΄σ „Ίσ …œσ „Ώσ …‡σ ……σ „‘σ „Ύσ „’σ …‰σ „£σ „Ύσ „΄σ …σ „‘σ „½σ …„σ ……σ „£σ „½σ …σ „Ήσ „₯σ …Šσ …‡σ „΅σ …§σ „Ύσ …‡σ „½σ „’σ …Šσ …„σ „²σ …σ „½σ …„σ …Šσ …σ …Šσ „΄σ …‰σ …§σ …‰σ …šσ „½σ „₯σ …Šσ „·σ …Šσ …›σ „Ώσ „΄σ „Ήσ „₯σ „½σ „’σ „Άσ …›σ „½σ …šσ …Šσ …˜σ „½σ „’σ „½σ …§σ „½σ …ͺσ …›σ „ σ …Šσ „΄σ „΅σ …¨σ „½σ …„σ „²σ …σ …Šσ …„σ …“σ „‘σ …Šσ …σ …†σ …™σ „Ήσ …œσ „ σ …£σ …‡σ …©σ „Ίσ …₯σ …ˆσ „£σ „Ύσ … σ …Šσ „£σ „½σ …™σ „Όσ „΄σ „Ίσ …”σ …ˆσ …ˆσ „‘σ …”σ …‰σ …‡σ „Ύσ …‰σ „Ήσ …σ „Ύσ „Όσ …σ „‘σ …σ „Όσ …‘σ …€σ „΅σ „€σ ……σ „½σ …‘σ „©σ „΅σ …˜σ „΄σ …‡σ „©σ …†σ …¨σ „’σ …Ÿσ „»σ …‰σ „»σ …€σ „΄σ ……σ …†σ „½σ „΅σ „Ίσ „±σ …Ÿσ …σ …šσ …¦σ „Άσ …”σ …–σ …ˆσ …‚σ „’σ „Άσ …›σ …Ÿσ „’σ „Άσ …œσ …‡σ „³σ „²σ …‘σ …¨σ „§σ …€σ „΄σ …•σ „Ώσ …€σ „³σ …’σ „©σ „³σ …˜σ …Šσ …σ …–σ …™σ …©σ …’σ …¨σ „Ήσ …šσ …σ …ͺσ „Ίσ …§σ „Ίσ …¨σ …Ÿσ „§σ …ͺ󠄿󠅖󠄩󠄿󠄢󠅩󠅩󠅀󠅝󠅒󠄺󠄷󠄢σ …ͺσ …‡σ „³σ „±σ …₯σ „Έσ …‘σ „΄σ …¦σ „±σ …‚σ …§σ …”σ …¦σ …„σ „·σ …¨σ …˜σ „‘σ …ͺσ …‰σ „΅σ „σ „Ώσ „Έσ …Šσ „Άσ „‘σ …¦σ „¨σ „»σ …“σ …œσ „·σ …£σ „‘σ …ˆσ „ σ …˜σ …šσ …˜σ „’σ …’σ „Ύσ …•σ …–σ „’σ „Άσ …©σ …‡σ „³σ „±σ …’σ …’σ „Όσ „€σ …œσ „£σ „Ύσ …Šσ „Ύσ …₯σ …„σ …€σ …£σ „‘σ …‘σ „₯σ …Ÿσ …‘σ „Ύσ „£σ „Άσ „Ώσ „Άσ …‰σ …žσ „Ύσ …’σ „ σ …œσ …ˆσ …›σ … σ „Άσ „Όσ …§σ …’σ „Ίσ „·σ …–σ „’σ „Έσ „΄σ …‡σ „Άσ „£σ …•σ „Ίσ „Ύσ „§σ „Ήσ …žσ „Ύσ … σ …Šσ „’σ „₯σ …˜σ …”σ „Έσ …†σ …©σ …Šσ …ˆσ „½σ …™σ „Ώσ …œσ …£σ …™σ …Šσ …„σ …›σ „₯σ „Ύσ „’σ „΅σ „£σ …Šσ …σ …Šσ …›σ …‰σ …„σ …œσ …™σ „½σ …šσ …σ …§σ „½σ „·σ „΅σ …§σ „Ύσ …„σ „²σ …™σ „Ώσ …‡σ …‰σ „ σ „Ύσ …šσ „±σ „ σ „Ώσ „΄σ „½σ „₯σ „½σ …„σ …—σ „’σ …‰σ …‡σ …‚σ …˜σ …Šσ …„σ …”σ …σ „½σ …σ ……σ „₯σ …Šσ …šσ ……σ „€σ …‰σ …ͺσ „΅σ „₯σ „Ύσ …šσ …‰σ „€σ …Šσ …šσ …“σ „€σ „½σ …σ …†σ …œσ …Šσ …σ ……σ „ σ „½σ „’σ …†σ …˜σ „Ύσ „·σ „½σ „‘σ „Ύσ …ͺσ …›σ „€σ „Ύσ …šσ „½σ „’σ „½σ „’σ „Ύσ …šσ …‰σ „’σ …‰σ „‘σ …Šσ …σ …†σ …›σ „Ώσ „·σ „Ίσ …˜σ „½σ „·σ …‰σ „‘σ …‰σ …σ „Ήσ „€σ „Ύσ …šσ …“σ „’σ „Ώσ …„σ …†σ …›σ …‰σ …‡σ …Šσ …›σ „½σ …„σ „±σ …§σ …Šσ …šσ „½σ „ σ „Ύσ …‡σ „½σ …¨σ „½σ „΄σ „Ίσ …œσ …Šσ …„σ …“σ „£σ …Šσ „·σ „΅σ „‘σ „Ύσ …‡σ ……σ „£σ …‰σ „’σ „½σ „£σ „Ώσ …‡σ ……σ „‘σ „Ώσ „΄σ „±σ …™σ …ˆσ …ˆσ „ 
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Rob Woodgate rob@nostrly.com 11 months ago
Cool - Calle and HeidE could also do a 2 party token, 2-of-2 to sign... with no intermediary.... The party who can cash it in is the one who witnesses last.
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John 11 months ago
That was my main compalint about current p2pk, you're relying on the mint to enforce
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jon doe 11 months ago
Cool but ccompletely unrealistic. No one will use this
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Vitor Pamplona _@vitorpamplona.com 11 months ago
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Cashu MultiSig just dropped... opening up atomic swaps and escrow. Meet Cashu Witness. Imagine @calle and @heidi-E want to do a deal, but they don't trust each other. They do, however, both trust me. Calle can lock his payment token to all three of us, requiring 2-of-3 signatures to redeem... and specify a time limit for performance. 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The token can be sent up front, and all parties can see the lock using Cashu Witness. If the deal goes through, I can witness the token and send it on to HeidE, who can then sign and swap it for an unlocked token she can spend (again using Cashu Witness). If the deal falls through, I witness the token and send it back to Calle to cash in. if I get hit by a bus or the deal isn't done in time, Calle can cash in the token when the the token lock expires. image
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Cashu Witness allows you to unlock multisig tokens by signing the proofs with your private key.
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npub18rpm...fqah 10 months ago
Multi-sig has been in Lightning since its inception. It's already on layer 2.
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npub1pktm...pxa6 10 months ago
But like... How do we know which mint to trust? What if it was @calle's mint all along and he hid an identifier in the cashu token so he can just redeem it regardless of the rules while you and @heidi-E thought you were all playing by the same rules.
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Rob Woodgate rob@nostrly.com 10 months ago
Trust is an unavoidable part of all lightning/layer2/custodial solutions. The answer is you need to pick your mint carefully… same as you choose your lightning wallet provider.
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Repeatedly nuked profile 10 months ago
I’d add that I don’t even trust myself not to leave cash in my pockets of my jeans that go in the washing machine.
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npub1pktm...pxa6 10 months ago
Well, a better analogy would be whether you trust that Visa will give your money to the marchant each time you pay for something or just take the amount from you, pocket it, and leave you in an awkward position.
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npub1pktm...pxa6 10 months ago
EVEN IF YOU USED AN INTERMEDIARY to mitigate the risk, only to learn that the intermediary had no power to begin with.
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Repeatedly nuked profile 10 months ago
Honestly, for the equivalent of a few small bills in the pockets of my jeans, if I worried about it a good deal then that'd mean (a) I'm really struggling financially, in which case I've got bigger things to worry about, or (b) I've got some kind of OCD, so again, bigger things to worry about.
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PixelBob 10 months ago
Wen cashu mints require multisig to prevent rug pulls?
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npub18rpm...fqah 10 months ago
How is something that's been available on layer 2 for over a decade (and deployed 7 years ago) an indispensable missing piece to decentralized commerce?
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