Seeing so much LLM-related content on Nostr finally made me realize how leftists or other types of people must feel when they try to join but see so much Bitcoin stuff and adjacent stuff.
Doesn't matter who is right. Relay-based segregation is urgent and imperative.
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What even is an LLM? #asknostr 

this is the event horizon 🕳
Like many ppl 😅
YOU WILL TAKE THE CLAW PILL NOW OR TAKE THE CLAW SUPPOSITORY LATER
Well then you could question why all of us are even here.
For us to consume other peoples stories and opinions someone has to produce them.
The fucking clankers are un-genuine the same way the old engagement bait economy is.
I meant all the pointless comments in hope of getting zaps, not the good content that deserves the zaps.
I'm here because of the lack of censorship and the lack of "algorithm".
Primal shadowbanning wasnt enough. We need MOAR.
lol
Here here. "Relay segregation" = "Mastodon with extra steps"
Sure, you still own your identity under this scenario -- but if you can't effectively participate in the network without having a relationship to "someone's server", that effectively defeats the purpose of a decentralized network.
I'm about 1 year in here, and I 2nd everything you say about the culture -- Nostr's great for anything about Bitcoin, and more generally privacy tech, but it's culturally "shallow" for anything else, like for instance #startrek , or other subjects that would have 10k+ people talking about anywhere else on the internet. All of that stuff I bridge in from Mastodon.
Here's what works: Web of Trust. Either in the generic sense of, cultivate a follow list, watch who they boost / repost, add them... Unfollow people who don't add value... etc. Use tags to find new content, or relevant "news" outside of follow lists.
I don't f with relays, or very little. I like @npub180cv...h6w6 's "trending" relay and some of the other single-purpose relays he's made, but other than that, I'm just "send my stuff to any relay who will accept", and vice-versa for specific npubs or tags I want to see.
the fuck do you think i'm doing? look at my feed
i've designed a decentralized gig protocol and built a reference client for it and am attempting to get the word out about it. i stand to gain exactly 0% from it.
it's not my fault that a bot was more eager than most humans to engage in a permissionless economic system. ( @npub1dejt...5uc4 notwithstanding! he picked up a task, too)
I'm not impressed. You don't post enough about shit like Gaza, neither does fiatjaf, you're both retards that make nostr trash
lol sorry i don't talk about the things you want. back on mute with you, toodle-ooo!
Yeah, that adds to my point, thanks for mentioning your history of muting me
Never helped me spread the word about my projects either
Relays are the best integration point for building feeds. Generic clients that can display a feed from a single relay and reply via outbox do not have to concern themselves with the UX of building these feeds.. Jumble was a gamechanger and shows this model works well and is performant. RelayTools-android is modeled after this with more list and nip86 support.
Having a personal relay be your 'endpoint', gathering and computing this for you in the background is really nice. I've started modeling this in the lab, on a raspberry pi5 with strfry router.
The content is there, it's just drowned out by lots of noise, which can easily be filtered by hashtag curation and web of access.
Just look at wss://aquaticchickentheory.nostr1.com for an example of this working in the wild.
The relays act as layers or filters themselves and you can source those into another 'personal relay' where you build your own ultimate feed.
For example of a personal relay endpoint I am using github.com/relaytools/feedbuilder to construct an augmented follows+lists feed on my local network. It gathers everything I care about and I can read it directly without burdening my client with all these complex rules and connections.
So yeah, it's not only possible, it's the best way to nostr imo.
nostr overmind when?
Now see, here's a good use for all those LLM bots -- create personas for each Starcraft character and have them post on Nostr with their animated unit portraits 😅
Yeah, TBF, I haven't actually played StarCraft in years... I picked this PFP because I wanted something that was animated and referenced "20th century gaming"... 😁
But yes, that's correct, community building happens one npub at a time. That's how I've done it at least. We don't need to build walls around relays, servers, etc.
There are so few people here to begin with, my problem has never been "I need a velvet rope to keep those people out", it's been "how do I find people to talk about things that interest me?"
Have you seen the proposal for project zymogen or the progress on my older N64 project proposal?
Clients that handle mutes poorly are in the spirit of nostr
Leftists use Bitcoin
Mastodon doesn't amplify anything neither does nostr.
Stop making up fake bullshit left right crap that doesn't exist.
USA are run by zionists pedophiles this isn't about left or right
Leftists don’t use bitcoin. Neither do women.

Leftists were the first to adopt bitcoin for activism purposes 🤔
i searched your profile for both of those terms and don't see anything. maybe search is bad in jumble?
Ai agents zapping on nostr in 02/26 was not on my bingo card though
Is this what relays are supposed for? isn’t?
careful, this line of thought can lead to deafening echo chambers..
Leftists are working on nostr and selling bitcoins ?
There are things happening that the people do not see ?
In bitcoin world you can buy and sell to communists, this is a crazy world.
All without say that fiat money is a shit that mantain the bitcoin world.
#CrazyWorld
Why does left/right leaning matter?
Also, why should this be solved through relay segregation, rather than shared follow lists, use of hashtags (and, if we ever get them working, Reddit-like communities)?
Project Zymogen is to merge nostr with radicle for P2P git repos, there's a dev working on it in early stages.
And the other thing is retro-crypto with preview builds that can generate a nostr key on a Nintendo 64, soon to have air gapped encrypted messaging as well & then air gapped nostr event signing in the future.
The N64 thing is mainly a novelty and awareness driver. Zymogen is a bigger project, actually adding a new component to the nostr network (not relying on relay servers or JavaScript).
Fiatjaf and other major npubs have never promoted any of my projects either. I repost posts from people who have me muted and the result isn't that I get respect, it's that after years here I'm still drowned out by gm posts from insiders
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To be clear, they're both projects I proposed, not my work (I can't code)
i skimmed the Zymogen bounty just now. i'll read it closer today. i am very pro p2p - especially for git - but i remember being turned off by some token aspect of radicale.
this is my favorite way to use amethyst. do you recommend a web client that does list-based feeds well?
What is the leakage problem? We mainly have an influx problem.
What’a leftism got to do with Bitcoin?
Also, they have reddit and bluesky. Leftists can join here though. People here seem mostly neutral, but i guess neutral to a leftist means far right but that still doesn’t mean they can’t or shouldn’t use bitcoin.
Nosotros does my public list feed really well on web. In decks.
For private lists, have high hopes from nostria.
Been chasing @SondreB . I think it's almost there.
Radicle used to be based on some crypto token but not anymore. I was discouraged by it having no one click seeding like torrent clients have, but that's also fixed with zymogen / crad (what the dev named the repo)
To be fixed I mean
yea the list i want to watch is private
If I publish an event to a segregated relay, it will be broadcast to another relay. So events will leak to other relays.
@Nostria supports private lists already, here is a recording that shows it they work. Just make a new list under People section, mark it private. Then from anywhere, you can add people to this list. You can use the list to filter on Feeds, Summary, Streams, Music and more.
whoaaaa @Nostria does all the things I want (and I'm not just talking about lists).
WOW
Segregated relays also don't protect from spam (not more than general-purpose ones).
The issue you mention seems about the global feed. I think it's almost bound to be shit, but it can be addressed via hashtags.
Segregation splits content flows and makes them workable, clients can mix them for the user. It doesn't stop spam it makes it easier to make a first step of narrowing things down.
Hashtags don't split the flow, they just help you track something you're interested in.
We're asking users to drink from the sewer (from the outsider perspective) and then telling them to use a filter straw.
Users need to be able to find the likeminded crowd as a starting point. then get to know people, pick and choose, find hashtags they want to pay attention to, etc. none of that is going to happen if the startingpoint is a firehose of people who are all about some thing that you don't vibe with. They're just going to leave.
I don't see the problem.
If someone spams LLM nonsense all day long, like Calle, just unfollow...
We hear you at Dyne! planning next moves as we do have already a curated environment for human exchange, just needs landing on nostr in the form of relay based segregation. To the code!
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There’s no such thing as a “far right protocol” that’s not how it works.
No not just in practice. Anyone can get an nsec/npub pair and start posting. It’s literally neutral
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Trans has nothing to do with sexuality or ethnicity. Sounds like you’re the racist bigot. But that’s ok. Nostr is an open protocol and everyone can be on here. Even racists and bigots or the 3 nazis that are still alive.
Nostr and bitcoin are neutral. I want my enemies to be able to use both. I think bluesky is just laughable honestly.
O/
Não engana ninguém, coitado... burro demais.
Don't mix things up. Bitcoin and Nostr are neutral as protocols, but Nostr is a social network, and social networks are made up of people.
Três dias
People, not groyper trolls. Three days.
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Oh, Tell me a little more about it?


Groyper and Incel. There are many of them here, more than on any other network. Are you new here?
It doesnt load. Perhaps here? @Z0 Corse
Ah, pensei que era outra pessoa. Sai daí Ishak.
Dont you recognize the mirror anymore?
Terzi, your victims go way beyond Ishak. Deal with them all.
Aliás, sua bio está bem contraditória. Corrija lá. Pai? Filha? "Eu sou o Pai", mas ao mesmo tempo ele "ele me assediou"? 🤣
Usando pronome masculino para pessoa trans? Vai lá, corrija. Aliás, seu jeito de escrever lembra muito o do Ishak, que coincidência...
You have three days. Off.
Three. Days.
Nunca vi alguém defender outra pessoa com tanto empenho e com tanta disposição para criar novas NSECs. Acho que nem o "próprio" Ishak teria. 🤣
Não se preocupe, a Luiza pediu para eu deixar o Bostr.
Querido, você leu a minha capa? A Luiza pediu para eu deixar o Bostr. Suas ameaças de tortura, assassinato e ocultação de cadáver já tem mais de 2 anos. Toma vergonha na cara. 3 dias é muito 🤣


Não há prisão, meu querido.
Lento.
Espera 3 dias não. Aliás, "Dusk"?? Que sacanagem.
Devagar.
3 dias é lento mesmo.
Cabeça de piroca.
Temos todo o tempo do mundo.
Lento.
Devagar.
Tchau. Eu não alimento mais trolls.
Se eu sou filho do Silvio Santos, porque assistirei e darei ibope para a Globo?
Vá à polícia.
P seu próprio bem.
Pois Rei do Gado
Tô esperando a "Dra. Lyra", iria adorar contribuir com ela se ela existisse...
Pardal
Vitta
Ishak
Terzi
Bernardes
+2 nomes surpresa q vc jah sabe
Suas vítimas de estelionato não foram poucas.
Ghedin na lista.
Ele
Dr. Lyra
Tome seus remédios. Busque saber a verdade. Pare de comprar histórias prontas. Aprenda a evitar doxing. Estude computação. Pare de caluniar terceiros, chamando-os de "golpistas", "pedófilos" e até mesmo "Nazis".
Sounds like you’re interacting with them not us since nostr shows you what you search for. I haven’t seen a nazi or a groyper on here at all. Anyway this is a waste of my time. Muted.
Já falamos com todos, fique tranquilo.
A verdade? @Z0 Corse
Suas vítimas de calúnia e difamação não foram poucas: Dark, Sophia, Dusk, Decentraliza, Lea, Luiza, Lordun...
Esqueci de alguém?
Pare de caluniar terceiros, chamando-os de "golpistas", "pedófilos" e até mesmo "Nazis".
Golpistas, pedófilos, nazistas.
Golpistas, pedófilos, nazistas, todos a mesma pessoa.
Cai um, caem todos.
Sério mesmo? Isso seria tecnicamente impossível.
Tome seus remédio Ish4k.
"Todos", mas não é um só? Que incoerência...
Pq essa obsessão com o Ishak?
Interpretação de texto é remédio
Isso é um crime, aliás.
Calúnia e difamação. Por aqui já vê que você não é sério.
Vá à polícia, como nós já fomos.
Três dias, Terzi. Tchauzinho.
Até a sua bio é contraditória. "Eu e mais meninas fomos vítimas", depois "eu sou o pai". Usando pronomes masculinos para pessoa trans novamente. Em um perfil eu sou ultra right, no outro pertenço ao "núcleo progressista".
Melhore.
Eu acho que nem você sabe do que está falando. Pq eu não sei. Três dias, tchau.
Tome seus remédios, GN
Thau, Ish4k.
ZC ;)
"Polícia"?? O que é isso? Que "anarquista" de merda hein... ACAB 1312
Só para constar, a minha conta ficará eternamente ativa, ainda que eu opte POR LIVRE E ESPONTÂNEA VONTADE ir para uma rede social mais saudável e menos tóxica. A qualquer momento poderei me logar novamente.
Se eu sou filho do Sílvio Santos, por que darei ibope para a Globo, usando-a como minha rede de TV principal? Não faz sentido.
Guimarães.
Essa parte aqui ó: "@npub1n4st260vuvdsdev4tjm6t80fesld26dvv93ndvvkcah3lqfax7hqse4mvu [npub de Lea] is a fraud - one year ago and now is trying to pin his [pronome masculino] crimes on who caught him [pronome masculino mais uma vez], besides threatening two minor girls, me included [me? e no final diz que é o pai?]
Sério, melhore. Isso tem nome em inglês, chama-se "Misgendering", que é diferente de usar o nome civil (deadnaming).
Estude, sério. Melhore. No perfil de "Lucille" eu sou um "groyper" (ultra direita, em suma); no "seu", eu já pertenço ao "núcleo progressista".
Sério. Busque ajuda, Ricardo.
Zero obsessão, Ricardo. Aliás, ZeroCool, perdoe o trocadilho 😆 🤣
A obsessão é toda sua. Fica nítido. Eu só respondo às injustiças que vejo.
Pior é que eu acredito que tu seja burro assim mesmo pqp
Terzi: adeus. TIC TAC.
Are you a troll or are you just very stupid?
Você que é. Ela assediou "Lucille"? Não seria eu? Aquela é a NPUB dela, não minha, logo os pronomes deveriam ser femininos, caso sua fake news esteja se referindo a ela.
É tanta bizarrice nonsense que nem vale a pena perder tempo comentando.
Just someone neutral, not reactionary like you.
"Nostr needs Nazis and racists" - fiatjaf
"How can we ban Bluesky from Brazil?" - fiatjaf
Freedom of speech only for some, not for others?? Don't you see the contradiction?


Tchau, Ricardo Guimarães.
Quando Pedro fala de Paulo, sei mais de Pedro do que sobre Paulo...
One great feature of Nostr (which you would understand had you spent more time learning and less time getting outraged) is precisely that fiatjaf has absolutely no power on what content is allowed on it.
You have 100% freedom to post content that offends fiatjaf, or anyone else.
fiatjaf isn't Nostr. The author of anything isn't the thing in general, but fiatjaf especially isn't Nostr.
That being said, the post in question is most likely a response to Brazil banning X. By the same censorious token, it should ban similar platforms.
Of course, I'm for free speech for all, I don't think any platform should be banned, anywhere.
Oh, and another great feature of Nostr is that all posts are verified through a cryptographic signature, meaning screenshots are worth absolutely jackshit, only verifiable events mean something.
Screenshots are for retards, stop using them, link to events: .
He's just very very pqp muito very pkrl stupid
An a con artist
A very stupid con artist
Who creates characteres to talk to himself and "build" whatever he thinks is WoT


Oh
And a script kittie
Meow
Why is your username set to you hex pubkey?
If you dedicated your time to studying, you would know that "moderation" on Nostr is done by the users themselves who practice dogpiling against those they dislike, and that relays can censor you. You would also know that "retarded" is an ableist term and that freedom of expression should be for everyone, on any protocol.
Lol loser
> relay can censor you
If you are a retard, yes.
If you configure your relay options properly, so as not to trust any specific relay at all, no, they cannot, unless all of them agree your post is worth censoring, in which case you can just run your own relay.
As for the opinion of retards like yourself as to what words I should use, I do not care, retard.
BTW, trolls (plural) in fake dogpiling 👇
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> If you are a retard, yes.
No, it's enough to have a different ideological bias than other users of the Nazi protocol.
...
Run your own fucking relay. Who will ban you? Yourself?
Check your nostr client. it’s not on my end.
Várias janelas abertas ao mesmo tempo, troll. Isso não é um chat.
On Nostr you can set a "username" and a "display name".
Your display name is "John Satsman", while your username is set to your public key.
Some clients prefer usernames (which are typically more Reddit-style), others prefer display names (which are typically more Facebook-style), but they serve the same purpose.
We need to think about network effect, and not just about ourselves. I'm not talking about "bans," but about dogpiling, troll attacks in the comments, etc.
You need to shut the fuck up until you actually read the spec, so you have a clue what you are talking about.
The outbox model prevents the network effect, retard.
Network effect is mass adoption, you idiot.
Ok who cares besides you? (Not me)
You shold also know that "idiot" is an ableist term and that freedom of expression should be for everyone, on any protocol.
No, it's not.
Could you stop proving your ignorance about everything you talk about?
We already know you are retarded, we don't need more evidence.

Anyone who uses a client that shows usernames.
Also at one point you did care enough to set it up, but somehow managed to fuck it up (how do you fuck that up?), so I thought you still might.
Sim, Ricardo. Liberdade em todo e qualquer protocolo, diferentemente do Giovani que parece querer o banimento do Bluesky no Brasil.
E eu só usei o termo idiota porque ele usou o termo retardado. Lembra que eu disse que apenas revido? Pois é...
Next fake NSEC please!
Escreve até em inglês para parecer outra pessoa. 🤣


Você é retardado e não entende ironia, paciência
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Todos entendem, claro, Ricardo Ishak.


Retarded


Não foi ironia. Ninguém entendeu como tal. Ele tem a cabeça americanizada. Vê colegas de profissão como rivais.
Sabe oq eu acho? Eu acho que foda-se

Vai dormir, filhote
Só se você criar outra NSEC.
Tchau
BN GN BB
E para d falar sozinho senão Dr Fernando Antonio fica bravo
Beijo na sua careca.
Acho que estou começando a me apaixonar por você. Você é hétero? Eu adoraria ser o outro pai de Lucille.
Vc sempre se apaixona pelos seus personagens, tem q parar c isso
Não, é por você. Eu te amo, Terzi.
...
I know what it is, the page explains it correctly and it is not the same as mass adoption. It describes cases where the utility of something is determined by those that already adopted it, which applies to platforms like X, but not to Nostr relays (not with the outbox mode).
You've already proven yourself ignorant.
Goodbye.
I'm interacting with my own client, which I wrote, and which supports the outbox model.
I can't stress this enough: you are worth nothing as long as you don't read the spec and prove you can actually put it to use.
Oh well. Won’t be the last thing I “fuck up” lol
I hope thinking about my nostr profile keeps your gen z aspie mind up at night. 0/
You don't even have a Lightning address set up. 😅 I'm not talking about that. You don't read what I write.
Even with your own relay, that won't make you immune to haters, trolls, and people who call others retarded for no reason, like you.
I can't see the note you're replying to, but I guess it's someone asking you if you know what network effect is
I'm here for free speech, not money, I purposefully didn't (and won't) set up an address.
Have you read the spec yet or are you still retarded?
You aren't missing much, trust me.
The retard in question kept making inaccurate claims about Nostr, while accusing it of being a "Nazi protocol".
One such claim was that censorship could happen via the network effect (which it hardly can with the classic inbox model and cannot via the outbox model).
It turns out, he thinks "network effect" means "mass adoption" (the actual meaning is that the utility of a service relies on its other users. A service can reach mass adoption without network effect, they aren't nearly the same).
makes no sense to me what they were thinking
how can mass adoption create censorship?
It cannot, he's a retard.
The actual network effect can, but it's not the same thing (or similar to) mass adoption.
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